uttradit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: thwarting Putin's desire to take over all of Eastern Europe again. Not true. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, HK MacPhooey said: Biden? Not good, but still a lot better than the orange guy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, Morch said: Fool me once, etc. Wow, we agree on something. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker88 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Just now, uttradit said: Not true. Wait! You're tucker carlson now, with insight into putin's mind? Perhaps you can explain why bombing schools and hospitals in Ukraine is in anyone's interest, except for a little guy who hopes to rebuild the empire of Nicolas II? Three weeks under your current iteration, and already 1100 posts. Rich and rewarding life you must lead. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, uttradit said: Not true. It's what the man has said himself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, spidermike007 said: The only thing that would change for me would be that I would have to go back to telling people that I'm Canadian, from Saskatchewan. Because engaging people while Trump is president who consistently ask why we voted in an absolute moron, is tiresome and it's better to just deflect by saying I'm Canadian. I hope they don't ask you if you voted for Trudeau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Walker88 said: Wait! You're tucker carlson now, with insight into putin's mind? Perhaps you can explain why bombing schools and hospitals in Ukraine is in anyone's interest, except for a little guy who hopes to rebuild the empire of Nicolas II? Three weeks under your current iteration, and already 1100 posts. Rich and rewarding life you must lead. His trolling posts would be tolerable if they were not so stupid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Lacessit said: It's what the man has said himself. Let's believe an 80yo guy in the internet instead. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Would like to see Hillary Clinton (POTUS) and Michelle Obama (VP) drafted at the democratic convention. I think that ticket would win by a landslide against Trump. Edited February 13 by Gecko123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 34 minutes ago, newnative said: Unfotunately, America does not let 'the voters elect'. If that were the case, Trump would have lost not just the 2020 election but also the 2016 election. He would have never been president and the long nightmare of his presidency would never have happened. The 'voters' in 2016 wanted Clinton by over 2.5 million votes. The cursed Electoral College, however, wanted Trump, and Trump we got. That's a non-issue. They campaign to maximize their results according to the rules. If the popular vote was definitive, they'd campaign differently, spending more time, money and energy on different voters. But the results would probably be the same at the end of the day. The DNC, on the other hand, doesn't allow their voters to choose the candidate. The voters can express a preference, but the decision is made by the party Elite. They'll do it again this year when they choose the candidate who will replace Biden, who is being thrown under the bus. They're not even pretending to put Newsom or Whitmer or Michelle or (God forbid) Kamala up for a vote of the party members. It'll be decided behind closed doors and announced... Edited February 13 by impulse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Just now, Gecko123 said: Would like to see Hilary Clinton (POTUS) and Michelle Obama (VP) drafted at the democratic convention. I think that ticket would win by a landslide against Trump. Hillary is widely hated. The other is a housewife toom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, retarius said: Speaking for myself.....in a choice between Trump and Biden, it would be Trump who gets my vote in a heartbeat. It is not because I am 'bedazzled' by Trump, or taken in by his 'thoughtless rhetoric'. Democrats love war and starting new wars....even peace prize winning Obama started unneeded wars. The GOP are less enamoured by war…… I really don’t understand this idea that “Democrats love war and starting new wars”. Is your memory so bad or knowledge of history so myopic that you can’t remember who got America into Afghanistan or Iraq in the first place (clue: it’s wasn’t Obama nor a Democrat). Also, Biden didn’t start the war with Ukraine nor the current Israeli- Palestinian conflict. Whether you agree or not with how he is handling things, Biden was handed these conflicts and is serving American interests as best as anyone could in such extreme circumstances. On the other hand, Trump has now publicly stated that he will allow Russia to do what it wants to “delinquent” NATO countries (I don’t think he will but that’s what he is saying) which is literally playing into Putins hands. Putin wants exactly this and is just dragging out the conflict in the hope that Trump gets elected. Is that who you really want as POTUS? Trump is dangerous, VERY dangerous and I hope for the worlds sake he loses. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prubangboy Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 47 minutes ago, uttradit said: The US should stay out of wars. Stop wasting money. Australians hoping that the US scales back its military impulses are truly turkeys voting for Christmas. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uttradit Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: I really don’t understand this idea that “Democrats love war and starting new wars”. Is your memory so bad or knowledge of history so myopic that you can’t remember who got America into Afghanistan or Iraq in the first place (clue: it’s wasn’t Obama nor a Democrat). Also, Biden didn’t start the war with Ukraine nor the current Israeli- Palestinian conflict. Whether you agree or not with how he is handling things, Biden was handed these conflicts and is serving American interests as best as anyone could in such extreme circumstances. On the other hand, Trump has now publicly stated that he will allow Russia to do what it wants to “delinquent” NATO countries (I don’t think he will but that’s what he is saying) which is literally playing into Putins hands. Putin wants exactly this and is just dragging out the conflict in the hope that Trump gets elected. Is that who you really want as POTUS? Trump is dangerous, VERY dangerous and I hope for the worlds sake he loses. 4 years of Trump no wars, low inflation, borders under control. The only dangerous thing is all the lies from Democrat voters who never tell the truth. They can't even admit Biden has dementia. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 26 minutes ago, impulse said: That's a non-issue. They campaign to maximize their results according to the rules. If the popular vote was definitive, they'd campaign differently, spending more time, money and energy on different voters. But the results would probably be the same at the end of the day. The DNC, on the other hand, doesn't allow their voters to choose the candidate. The voters can express a preference, but the decision is made by the party Elite. They'll do it again this year when they choose the candidate who will replace Biden, who is being thrown under the bus. They're not even pretending to put Newsom or Whitmer or Michelle or (God forbid) Kamala up for a vote of the party members. It'll be decided behind closed doors and announced... Yes, likely a 'non-issue'--for Republicans. George W. Bush and Trump both lost the popular vote. Trump by over 2.5 million in 2016 and 7 million in 2020. If he is the GOP nominee in 2024 he will in all likelyhood lose the popular vote once again, but could win the cursed EC. The voters could, as in 2016 and 2000, once again be denied their choice for president. The Republicans love the cursed EC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, uttradit said: Let's believe an 80yo guy in the internet instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, CygnusX1 said: For a country that’s spent trillions of dollars on defense against the great enemy of Russia, that 60 billion a year is a spectacular bargain. A country fighting Russia with not only bravery but great intelligence, and zero American lives lost. Bit like being offered a new Ferrari for $99 and complaining about the price. Strange that Trump seems to be in total agreement with Leftists, who’ve continually attacked the US for involvement in foreign wars. Trump used to be a Democrat and pals with the Clintons. $60 billion could do a lot of good in the US, but it won't because it got used to kill people. You seem to be OK with the Ukrainian disaster because no Americans are getting killed. Too bad about all the Ukrainians that died then! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uttradit Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Trump used to be a Democrat and pals with the Clintons. $60 billion could do a lot of good in the US, but it won't because it got used to kill people. You seem to be OK with the Ukrainian disaster because no Americans are getting killed. Too bad about all the Ukrainians that died then! Biden has not spoken to Putin in years. That's how useless Biden is. Should be on the phone working out a solution. Biden is totally ineffective yet all these guys can do is attack Trump who left office 3 years ago. All the left do is call people names. Calling Putin names won't stop the war. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX1 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: You seem to be OK with the Ukrainian disaster because no Americans are getting killed. Too bad about all the Ukrainians that died then! I’m certainly not OK with Putin’s horrendous war. What would you do - have Ukraine surrender? War is appalling, but sometimes necessary if we’re not all going to live under tyrannical regimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CygnusX1 said: I’m certainly not OK with Putin’s horrendous war. What would you do - have Ukraine surrender? War is appalling, but sometimes necessary if we’re not all going to live under tyrannical regimes. Biden should be on the phone working out a solution but the most useless president of all time has no clue. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX1 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 minutes ago, uttradit said: Biden should be on the phone working out a solution but the most useless president of all time has no clue. I don’t think even the world’s most towering intellect could manage to work out a solution over the phone, let alone poor Joe Biden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 39 minutes ago, newnative said: Yes, likely a 'non-issue'--for Republicans. George W. Bush and Trump both lost the popular vote. Trump by over 2.5 million in 2016 and 7 million in 2020. If he is the GOP nominee in 2024 he will in all likelyhood lose the popular vote once again, but could win the cursed EC. The voters could, as in 2016 and 2000, once again be denied their choice for president. The Republicans love the cursed EC. To be fair, & democratic,EC ,Electoral College ,Enshrined in a set of documents called the Constitution. Thank god for the founders! “Unfortunately, by the beginning of the 20thcentury many self-styled American “progressives” had turned against the ideal of limited, constitutional government. What they wanted instead was a system of unlimited centralized control by wise and beneficent technocrats”. https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion/the-lefts-long-war-on-the-constitution/ Edited February 13 by riclag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post retarius Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said: I really don’t understand this idea that “Democrats love war and starting new wars”. Is your memory so bad or knowledge of history so myopic that you can’t remember who got America into Afghanistan or Iraq in the first place (clue: it’s wasn’t Obama nor a Democrat). Also, Biden didn’t start the war with Ukraine nor the current Israeli- Palestinian conflict. Whether you agree or not with how he is handling things, Biden was handed these conflicts and is serving American interests as best as anyone could in such extreme circumstances. On the other hand, Trump has now publicly stated that he will allow Russia to do what it wants to “delinquent” NATO countries (I don’t think he will but that’s what he is saying) which is literally playing into Putins hands. Putin wants exactly this and is just dragging out the conflict in the hope that Trump gets elected. Is that who you really want as POTUS? Trump is dangerous, VERY dangerous and I hope for the worlds sake he loses. History is no use in politics.....look at today....who is banging the drum for war with China and Iran, who is backing the Israeli slaughter (a war crime by the way, as an EU court pointed out today in a an action prevent Holland from giving F35 parts to Israel); who wants 60 billion for Ukraine.....are any dems resisting? No. Are any GOP resisting, yes. That's where my vote goes. Personally I am sick to death of neocon warmongers, like Hillary Clinton and Victoria Nuland. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: What war has the US started in the last two years? Catch up with reality some more, espionage does not stop when there are no wars. The US inspired and provoked the war in Armenia....just to poke Russia in the eye.And ion you think the US was not behind the outrageous and murderous Israeli response, you are naive. And the US is behind, as Putin said in his interview, the war in Ukraine. There's 3 in the last 2 years. Edited February 13 by retarius 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uttradit Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, CygnusX1 said: I don’t think even the world’s most towering intellect could manage to work out a solution over the phone, let alone poor Joe Biden. Trump would have it ended in 2 months. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, retarius said: The US inspired and provoked the war in Armenia....just to poke Russia in the eye. Where is your proof? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 42 minutes ago, newnative said: Yes, likely a 'non-issue'--for Republicans. George W. Bush and Trump both lost the popular vote. Trump by over 2.5 million in 2016 and 7 million in 2020. If he is the GOP nominee in 2024 he will in all likelyhood lose the popular vote once again, but could win the cursed EC. The voters could, as in 2016 and 2000, once again be denied their choice for president. The Republicans love the cursed EC. It's no different than American football. The rules say a touchdown is 6 points and a field goal is 3. You can't come back after the game and claim we had more field goals but only we lost because of the rules. If they changed the rules where a field goal was 6 points and a TD was 3, the teams would adjust their tactics to favor kickers and the better teams would still win. It's the same with the age old argument between the Electoral College and the Popular Vote. If they changed the rules, the parties would change their tactics and the best candidate would still win. (Unless, of course, they cheated). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhatMeWorry Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 For me, I might consider moving back to the good ol USA. 1 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CygnusX1 Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, retarius said: And the US is behind, as Putin said in his interview, the war in Ukraine. You have a touching faith in the word of a murderous psychopath, one of the most evil men on the planet, directly responsible for killing and maiming hundreds of thousands. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CygnusX1 said: You have a touching faith in the word of a murderous psychopath, one of the most evil men on the planet, directly responsible for killing and maiming hundreds of thousands. It's just common sense. Joe is a lost cause. Can't even pick up the phone. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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