Historians rank Trump as worst president

[mikebike]

3 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The "evaducated' comment was as me being kind to trumpers and using their language , nuch like trump does. 

Ah, so you use the same excuses as 45. 🤪

Wouldn't it have been easier/better to say it was a typo?

 

But no, it was your sly, understated satire, eh?

 

[ozimoron]

How could a president with 91 raps and the only president ever to have any not be the worst president ever.

[mikebike]

8 minutes ago, sirineou said:

No he is 100% wrong

Please explain to me how his statement is wrong.

 

"Sorry to say this time people won't be voting for the best man, they'll be voting against the worst.“

[bendejo]

Just now, ozimoron said:

How could a president with 91 raps and the only president ever to have any not be the worst president ever.

Stay tuned for the next episode of "President Felon"!

Five months till Milwaukee.

 

[Hanaguma]

Obama above JFK?!?

[sirineou]

EVENKEEL said:

"That's OK, he's got 4 more years to redeem himself. "

to which I replied:

"Because as you always say, about Beden

"Age makes you better":tongue:"

 

See what i did there. I used his opinion that getting old makes you worse not better, as he claims about Biden. 

 

To which he replied :

"Sorry to say this time people won't be voting for the best man, they'll be voting against the worst. "

What does that have to do with what we are talking? 

NOTHING!!

I agree with him that if age makes you worse. then trump would also be in his 80 if he wins another term  and it will make him worse rather than better . Hence the Historians opinion will change for the worst rather than improve . But with you guys even agreement wont work.

Good news for trump ,since he is in last place could not possible get worse

[Eric Loh]

19 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

How could a president with 91 raps and the only president ever to have any not be the worst president ever.

The only former president to be criminally indicted ought to be the worst president. 

[sirineou]

25 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Wouldn't it have been easier/better to say it was a typo?

No it would not because it would not be true. 

Apparently you are not familiar with american culture,

The "evaducated " is a common theme in comedy made of those with little education. 

[Gecko123]

These ratings do move around as time passes, but my strong suspicion is that Trump will remain at the bottom of the barrel until the end of time. God help us if a future president were to somehow replace him at the bottom of the list.

[mikebike]

3 minutes ago, sirineou said:

No it would not because it would not be true. 

Apparently you are not familiar with american culture,

The "evaducated " is a common theme in comedy made of those with little education. 

I'm not familiar with American culture 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, mikebike said:

I'm not familiar with American culture 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Apparently from your statement., 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's OK, he's got 4 more years to redeem himself.

 

A bit longer than that.

 

In the Georgia election racketeering case in which he is a defendant, the RICO sentence is five to twenty years.

 

 

Edited February 20 by Etaoin Shrdlu

[lavender19]

I wonder who paid them to come up with that cr*p.

[proton]

Number one, the traitor to the constitution who invaded the CSA and cost the life's of over 700k Americans, a racist and white supremacist.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, lavender19 said:

I wonder who paid them to come up with that cr*p.

 

The American Political Science Association (APSA) is a professional association for political science students and scholars in the United States. Founded in 1903, it's the leading organization in its field, serving over 11,000 members globally.

 

To answer your question:

 

The American Political Science Association (APSA) is funded through a diverse mix of sources, including:

• Membership dues: Individual and institutional memberships provide a steady stream of income for the association.
• Grants and contracts: APSA receives funding from a variety of foundations, government agencies, and other organizations to support specific research projects and initiatives.
• Conference fees: The annual meeting and other conferences generate revenue through registration fees.
• Publications: APSA publishes several academic journals and other resources that generate revenue through subscriptions and sales.
• Endowment funds: The association has a number of endowed funds that provide ongoing support for its activities.
• Donations: Individuals and organizations can make donations to APSA to support its general operations or specific programs.

Here's a breakdown of the approximate percentage of APSA's revenue from each source in 2021:

• Membership dues: 33%
• Grants and contracts: 25%
• Conference fees: 16%
• Publications: 14%
• Endowment funds: 8%
• Donations: 4%

source: AI generated

[mikebike]

24 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Apparently from your statement., 

OK. I'm gonna say you are correct. But I do need you to explain to me why you think there is a unified "American" culture, when to everyone else in the world it looks as though you have a widening cultural and political dichotomy?

 

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I am Canadian, but grew up 20-ish Kms from the border. If I am not "familiar" with American culture, no one is.

[Jingthing]

34 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

These ratings do move around as time passes, but my strong suspicion is that Trump will remain at the bottom of the barrel until the end of time. God help us if a future president were to somehow replace him at the bottom of the list.

As he's an insurrectionist and traitor.

[Walker88]

The group of historians was pretty evenly matched between Democrat and Republican. Apparently they had disagreements about a few positions, such as Obama relative to Reagan, but they found uncommon agreement on who was the worst: trump

 

All of the things I like to note about trump---data gained from the Dept of Labor, Commerce Dept, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Office of Management and Budget, US Treasury, US Dept of State and other govt agencies---these experts also noted. The key highlights are:

 

---first POTUS since Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans working than when he entered

---Inherited a growing economy and left a Recession behind

---Grossly mismanaged Covid

---Made a safe exit from Afghanistan impossible, partly by setting a firm date and because he released 5000 Taliban jihadis who now run Afghanistan

---Ran up a massive 41% increase in total US National Debt, an $8,400,000,000,000 sum that caused the subsequent inflation

---Even before Covid had the lowest Quarterly GDP change of any President since Hoover

---Passed virtually no meaningful legislation, despite having an R House and R Senate for his first 2 years

 

Combine all of that, and the answer is a crystal clear #45 out of#45.

 

Amazing that even Harrison topped him, and Harrison was dead within a month or so of taking office.

 

Abject failure, thy name is trump.

 

[retarius]

Rather silly. GWB (or the Vietnam presidents) were the worst president ever he killed millions of people unnecessarily. Almost as bad as Hitler in fact.

This silly survey will not affect my vote and doesn't matter to me as a voter. I will vote for Trump if he is allowed to run and faces Biden. I didn't vote for him in the past....in fact I wouldn't and didn't vote for either candidate in 2016 or 2020, thinking they were both unfit to be president. The world didn't fall apart in 2016 unless you were a defence company lobbyist, unable to convince Trump to start another war. Biden is certainly unsuitable due to his rampant corruption and dementia. Trump was difficult last time and made mistakes, like with China....trade wars are not easy to win. But as I say he didn't start any new wars, and I will vote for no new wars and for settling Ukraine with some negotiations, not with more and more arms, edging us closer to WW3.

If Trump faces someone other than Biden, I will listen to the policies, and vote fro the one whom I think will be least likely to start another war. If Biden faces someone other than Trump, I will vote for anyone who is not Biden. 

I won't be responding to any comments, so don't bother, but I will be voting in the November Presidential election for the first time in a few years. Now for the clowns who do respond, please address the Biden and Trump policies, in your response and don't restate to me your silly prejudices about Trump which I simply don't accept. Please address Biden's support for the massacre of Palestinians and his pressuring Ukraine to abandon peace initiatives in favour of eternal; war.

Unlike the vast majority of people on here have actually met and worked with the man, I didn't like the guy much, to tell there truth, but can understand both his charisma and his appeal. 

[mikebike]

1 minute ago, retarius said:

I won't be responding to any comments, so don't bother

How to say, " I'm a keyboard warrior, but also a wimp", without saying so.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, retarius said:

Rather silly. GWB (or the Vietnam presidents) were the worst president ever he killed millions of people unnecessarily. Almost as bad as Hitler in fact.

This silly survey will not affect my vote and doesn't matter to me as a voter. I will vote for Trump if he is allowed to run and faces Biden. I didn't vote for him in the past....in fact I wouldn't and didn't vote for either candidate in 2016 or 2020, thinking they were both unfit to be president. The world didn't fall apart in 2016 unless you were a defence company lobbyist, unable to convince Trump to start another war. Biden is certainly unsuitable due to his rampant corruption and dementia. Trump was difficult last time and made mistakes, like with China....trade wars are not easy to win. But as I say he didn't start any new wars, and I will vote for no new wars and for settling Ukraine with some negotiations, not with more and more arms, edging us closer to WW3.

If Trump faces someone other than Biden, I will listen to the policies, and vote fro the one whom I think will be least likely to start another war. If Biden faces someone other than Trump, I will vote for anyone who is not Biden. 

I won't be responding to any comments, so don't bother, but I will be voting in the November Presidential election for the first time in a few years. Now for the clowns who do respond, please address the Biden and Trump policies, in your response and don't restate to me your silly prejudices about Trump which I simply don't accept. Please address Biden's support for the massacre of Palestinians and his pressuring Ukraine to abandon peace initiatives in favour of eternal; war.

Unlike the vast majority of people on here have actually met and worked with the man, I didn't like the guy much, to tell there truth, but can understand both his charisma and his appeal. 

Have you bought his gold shoes yet, it may help his financial woes ?

I think a Trump gold ring for your willy is in the pipeline too, as well as male orange face dye for the dye hards, and a blonde wig thingy to go with it all...............🤣

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

4 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

However the manufacturers of red baseball caps, and now gold plated sneakers, think that he is the absolute bee's knees!

Made in China?

Courtesy of the Biden family.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Pretty accurate ranking.

Subjectively!

[300sd]

Totally believable:) Just like the climate science.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Subjectively!

 

Is there a better qualified body in the US to do it? And it's anything but subjective. This selection went through a rigorous academic process. Dog whistling wasn't on the list of criteria, apparently.

[Woof999]

21 minutes ago, transam said:

I think a Trump gold ring for your willy is in the pipeline too

 

Will it be mushroom shaped?

[Hanaguma]

8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Is there a better qualified body in the US to do it? And it's anything but subjective. This selection went through a rigorous academic process. Dog whistling wasn't on the list of criteria, apparently.

The fact  that they included recent presidents, including the one STILL IN OFFICE, says something about their credibility. And also the real motivation behind the whole exercise.  Any serious historian would laugh.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

Will it be mushroom shaped?

Not sure, but you will get unhindered entry into store changing rooms if you flash it....😘

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Like me, folk who voted obviously know Trump is an embarrassment for the USA...😬

And Biden isn't?!

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

And Biden isn't?!

 

Indeed he is. He's very much swimming against the tide of world opinion on the war in Gaza and alienating many young voter who traditionally vote Dem but won't touch this party with it's current stance.