Songkran festival sees surge in road accidents across Thailand

[Confuscious]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

While the number of deaths and injuries on Thai roads is unexceptable ,

there are wider complications ,some of these people that have ded ,

would have been breadwinners for families , workers in positions that

will now need to be filled, these peoples deaths & injuries are going

to cause a lot of problems for Thailand .....RIP those that have died

and a swift recovery for those injured  ,

 

regards worgeordie

Exactly what I tried to point out in another thread.
We read every time about the people that died in a car accident, but they are afraid to publish the cost to Thai society of the injured people.

[Gknrd]

Looks like nothing has changed since I left a couple of years ago.  

During holidays in Thailand I would pull over, rent a hotel and wait it out , if I happened to be traveling during one.

Edited April 19 by Gknrd

[Confuscious]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

While the number of deaths and injuries on Thai roads is unexceptable ,

there are wider complications ,some of these people that have ded ,

would have been breadwinners for families , workers in positions that

will now need to be filled, these peoples deaths & injuries are going

to cause a lot of problems for Thailand .....RIP those that have died

and a swift recovery for those injured  ,

 

regards worgeordie

https://www.who.int/thailand/news/feature-stories/detail/turning-tragedy-into-action--advocacy-and-survival-on-thailand-s-roads#:~:text=In Thailand%2C road traffic accidents,sole cause of these accidents.

In Thailand, road traffic accidents result in about 20,000 deaths and a million injuries each year, incurring an economic loss of 500,000 million baht. While drunk driving is a significant contributing factor, it is not the sole cause of these accidents. This photo essay goes beyond the statistics, portraying the real faces and stories of survivors, advocating for urgent reforms and heightened road safety awareness. It aims to transform impersonal data into powerful narratives of human resilience, underscoring the need for safer roads.

[kwilco]

11 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

 

Who withdraw the law that limited the people carried on the load surface of a pick-up?
Don't need to answer that question, we know already ....

pointing out single issues just shows a lack of appreciation of the road safety situation in Thailand.

Do you seriously think that raomving passengers from the back of pickups will "cure" Thailand's raod safety ills?

 

The truth is there needs to be a comprehensive understanding of the problems and a systematic holistic approach - piece meal bandaids don't work.

[Confuscious]

7 hours ago, keith101 said:

From memory these numbers never include those that die on the way to hospital or after they get there so they could be a lot higher

 

"A fatality is defined as a death within 30 days of a crash."

 

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_Thailand_by_year)
 

[Confuscious]

6 minutes ago, kwilco said:

pointing out single issues just shows a lack of appreciation of the road safety situation in Thailand.

Do you seriously think that raomving passengers from the back of pickups will "cure" Thailand's raod safety ills?

 

The truth is there needs to be a comprehensive understanding of the problems and a systematic holistic approach - piece meal bandaids don't work.

 

Enforcing the law about the number of people in the load area of a pickup is not going to end the road safety problems but it will surely reduce the amount of casualties.
The same way as enforcing the law about the number of people on a motorbike or not wearing a helmet.

Rome was not build on 1 day.
 

[jesimps]

2 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Misdleading.

 

Almost all these accidents and injuries are from motorcycles.  

 

Unfortunately car/truck ownership is out of reach for the majority of Thai's.

 

Lax drinking laws are also a major factor.

Unfortunately cars and trucks are bigger than motorcycles and come off best. Also, if motorcyclists learned the highway code and didn't speed, overload their bikes or get psised, they'd be ok.

[kwilco]

14 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

 

Enforcing the law about the number of people in the load area of a pickup is not going to end the road safety problems but it will surely reduce the amount of casualties.
The same way as enforcing the law about the number of people on a motorbike or not wearing a helmet.

Rome was not build on 1 day.
 

no it won't - not significantly and you are barking up the wrong tree.. .statistically between 75% and 80% of deaths are riders and passengers of 2-wheeled vehicle - 4-wheeled vehicles you are actually LESS likely to die than in the US.

Edited April 19 by kwilco

[kwilco]

14 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Unfortunately cars and trucks are bigger than motorcycles and come off best. Also, if motorcyclists learned the highway code and didn't speed, overload their bikes or get psised, they'd be ok.

a very glib response which shows a lack of understanding of the issues.

[off road pat]

7 hours ago, brianthainess said:

So obviously your 'Best Efforts' are not good enough. Get the Cops to actually do their job of Patrolling the roads, and stop bad driving, checkpoints don't work and never have, and never will, but you repeat the same "Efforts" every year and Fail.  

Checkpoints Do work !!! they remove some drunk people from the roads for a while !!!

[off road pat]

39 minutes ago, Gknrd said:

Looks like nothing has changed since I left a couple of years ago.  

During holidays in Thailand I would pull over, rent a hotel and wait it out , if I happened to be traveling during one.

Exactly the same as we did,....wait it out in a roadside hotel or resort !!!

[Ralf001]

7 hours ago, ezzra said:

Same every year, after the revelry of Songran comes the grim news of how many people have lost their lives

on the nation's roads, and next year will be the same, and the next and next...

 

Luckily it is less than the typical daily average.

Maybe they should extend Songkran to run year round !

[Confuscious]

12 minutes ago, kwilco said:

no it won't

 

Claiming that reducing the amount of people on a pickup bed will not reduce the number of death/injured people In an accident, shows the IGNORANT you are and not worth to have a discussion with.

 

12 minutes ago, kwilco said:

not significantly

 

Thus you admit that reducing the amount of people on a pickup bed will have an impact, although not big, on the amount of dead/injured people in which case I will come to the same conclusion that you are not worth to have a discussion with.

Goodbye

 

Edited April 19 by Confuscious

[kwilco]

27 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

 

Claiming that reducing the amount of people on a pickup bed will not reduce the number of death/injured people In an accident, shows the IGNORANT you are and not worth to have a discussion with.

 

 

Thus you admit that reducing the amount of people on a pickup bed will have an impact, although not big, on the amount of dead/injured people in which case I will come to the same conclusion that you are not worth to have a discussion with.

Goodbye

 

You clearly don't have a grasp of either stats or the issues - I said "significant"

I doubt if you can find statistics for people killed or injured whilst travelling in the rear of a pickup.

 

Or understand why they are there.

What do you think i'm Ignorant of?

I'd say you are displaying a very basic ignorance of how to analyse raod safety - you are firmly in th "would have, should have ,could have" school of cognitive dissonance

[Deez]

Doing nothing and expecting better results. Kind of how they deal with the smoke

[Lucky Bones]

No. The festival only sees a increase in media reports. Otherwise Pattaya remains normal.🙃🙃

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm… its almost like the authorities are surprised by the increase in road deaths and its link to increased alcohol use. After all its only been happening for the past 20 yrs that i know of. TIT

[kiwikeith]

18 hours ago, ezzra said:

Same every year, after the revelry of Songran comes the grim news of how many people have lost their lives

on the nation's roads, and next year will be the same, and the next and next...

Cut it down to 2 days, put on free buses for people to travel, put cops on the road with breathalysers. 

Better still ban it. 

[2baht]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand is grappling with a surge in road accidents

The day Thailand grapples with anything is the day I will stand whistling!

[Chongalulu]

Is there a single comment on this thread that hasn’t largely been said already in interminable threads on Thai RTA ?   💤 

[Ctkong]

On 4/19/2024 at 10:29 AM, bkk6060 said:

Truly disgusting.   Thai people are so uneducated as to the safest way to drive and avoid accidents.   Number one is following too closely at high speeds. It will never change any kind of proper driving training is no priority and will never exist. Sad so many will die 

Sadly it is what it is. Until Thais place a much higher emphasis upon their lives, the carnage will continue especially for those at the lower strata of society where there is little incentive or inclination for improvement of their lot. 
When you progress to a higher status of living and responsibility, you will automatically shift to a higher level of awareness of your precious fragile life.

when you are still at the lower rung of society, living or being dead is just a process of existence. 

[Ctkong]

9 hours ago, 2baht said:

The day Thailand grapples with anything is the day I will stand whistling!

Being a majority Buddhist society believing in karma, Thais attribute their fate to karma and not their current action. As a country , thailand is still a society severely lacking social awareness and road safety. The government has its hand full trying to educate the masses trying to lift their awareness. A herculean task for any leader with inherent corruption where having money can makes many problems go away. 

[brianthainess]

On 4/19/2024 at 10:35 AM, bkk6060 said:

Sorry, totally disagree wish it was that easy the cops here cannot stop any of it at this point.  Stopping one car and a 500 b ticket while 1,000's speed by does nothing.   It starts in the 5th or 6th grade with education. And, the engineering of many of the roadways is poor. But, early education is the key.

But it would be a start, maybe if people saw drivers actually being pulled, might make a difference, 1,000's will still speed by 'road checks' and the fines remain the same anyway. Drivers just speed by the so called highway traffic police, and they do nothing.

[brianthainess]

Thais have no Pride in their driving, just zoom from A to B without a care in the world for anybody else, Me Me Me. Drunk or sober they are still crap at driving. Then run away if they do have an accident.