Popular Post stats Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 Georgia, Michigan and Nevada have already brought charges against people who posed as electors for Donald Trump, and Arizona and Wisconsin have active investigations The chairman of the Nevada Republican Party has been indicted. So has the former chairman of the Georgia G.O.P. In Michigan, a former co-chairwoman of the state party is facing charges. As Donald J. Trump goes on trial in the New York criminal case, other investigations and prosecutions in five crucial swing states are continuing to scrutinize the steps that he and his allies took in trying to circumvent the will of voters after the 2020 election. The investigations focus largely on the plan to deploy fake electors in states that Mr. Trump lost. Documents emerging from the state cases highlight divisions among Trump advisers after the 2020 election about whether to use hedging language in the phony certificates that they sent to Washington purporting to designate electoral votes for Mr. Trump. They also undercut claims by some Trump aides that they played little role in the fake-electors plan. (more) https://archive.ph/GBCcP#selection-4493.0-4513.454 1 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 This will be another Trumper-free thread! 😄 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 Fake electors vs Alternate electors! There’s no such thing as fake electors,” Kern said. “If it was illegal, we wouldn’t have done it. https://reason.com/2023/07/20/here-is-why-trumps-contingent-electors-say-they-did-nothing-illegal/ “I was an alternate elector in November 2020 for President Donald Trump,” he said. “I was asked to step up along with other ordinary citizens and I chose to accept,” Kern continued. “I was honored and will always be honored to preserve the constitutional election challenges filed by both the Democrat and Republican parties since the 1960 presidential elections.” https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2024/03/25/fake-elector-lashes-out-at-attorney-general-governor/ 1 5 1 1 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Tug Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 Good 👍 just more lives ruined by believing in and supporting the destroyer of lives the republicans really do need to ditch the albatross take the hit and move on the majority of their base will still vote republican. 1 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 Not the brightest America has to offer. Conspire to commit election interference. Sign your name on forged documents used to commit election interference. Submit the forged documents with your signature on them to the Federal Government. If it were not such a serious threat to US Democracy it would be comedy gold. 1 1 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sticky Rice Balls Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 12 hours ago, riclag said: Fake electors vs Alternate electors! There’s no such thing as fake electors,” Kern said. “If it was illegal, we wouldn’t have done it. https://reason.com/2023/07/20/here-is-why-trumps-contingent-electors-say-they-did-nothing-illegal/ “I was an alternate elector in November 2020 for President Donald Trump,” he said. “I was asked to step up along with other ordinary citizens and I chose to accept,” Kern continued. “I was honored and will always be honored to preserve the constitutional election challenges filed by both the Democrat and Republican parties since the 1960 presidential elections.” https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2024/03/25/fake-elector-lashes-out-at-attorney-general-governor/ well then..Im sure Mr Kern has nothing to worry about then...same as the orange guy that cries(24/7) about it being a with hunt.....truth needs NO support.lies do..... Opening statements start tomorrow after yet ANOTHER attempt at delaying..Ive never seen such an innocent man try to run from a witch hunt and the chance to prove his innocence.... Let the flaming begin from the Cult.....ps poor Jenna Ellis...how fast they flip on King Baby when its time to be under oath.....thoughts n prayers traitors....7-11 sells tissues 24 hrs a day..stock up 4 1 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sticky Rice Balls Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tug said: Good 👍 just more lives ruined by believing in and supporting the destroyer of lives the republicans really do need to ditch the albatross take the hit and move on the majority of their base will still vote republican. reminds me of the pied piper....plays his flute and spews lies to lure out the rats......and llke one of those hotel doors..he brings them outside into the light, then the door slams shut(with no way back in) LOL https://allthatsinteresting.com/pied-piper-meaning is the orange piper....playing the tune "it was rigged" "lock her up" MAGA.....build the wall...all the hits that rats love... and should any of those rats turn on the piper the other rats will devour the squealer..guessing in private they are hoping he gets locked up so they can dig themselves out of the hole the piper dug for them to fall in with his sweet songs of hate-lies a lifelong grifter can spot a mark easily..hence the GOP.......they have always been party over country and work for BIg Corp not the common people..may they reap what they sow Nice move on abortion dummies...see ya in ROEvember! Edited April 21 by Sticky Rice Balls 3 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 Dems better be careful what they wish for. Just about every candidate puts together a slate of alternate electors in states where the voting is close. Gore had 'em. Hillary had 'em. Obama had 'em. Start prosecuting alternate electors on the right and you can guaranty they'll start prosecuting them on the left. 2 7 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 13 hours ago, candide said: This will be another Trumper-free thread! 😄 note the one who posted it....gotta get those "clicks" with the new merger! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 13 minutes ago, impulse said: Dems better be careful what they wish for. Just about every candidate puts together a slate of alternate electors in states where the voting is close. Gore had 'em. Hillary had 'em. Obama had 'em. Start prosecuting alternate electors on the right and you can guaranty they'll start prosecuting them on the left. A bit of a false equivalence. There is only one official slate of electors. Cobbling together an alternative after losing the election is not it. 3 1 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 Another well balanced article written by that top notch msm source that is recommended by the left as the go to source for balanced perspectives... right ROO... this is what happens when your starting point is so far left that you no longer know what is balanced. 8 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 17 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Another well balanced article written by that top notch msm source that is recommended by the left as the go to source for balanced perspectives... right ROO... this is what happens when your starting point is so far left that you no longer know what is balanced. So the fake electors are getting prosecuted and convicted for their crimes? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So the fake electors are getting prosecuted and convicted for their crimes? Again you show that you know nothing about the USA election machine... you call them "fake"... yet there is evidence that this is part and parcel to the "alternate" electors used by BOTH parties... let's talk about something that you actually know about... anything come to mind? 1 6 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, impulse said: Dems better be careful what they wish for. Just about every candidate puts together a slate of alternate electors in states where the voting is close. Gore had 'em. Hillary had 'em. Obama had 'em. Start prosecuting alternate electors on the right and you can guaranty they'll start prosecuting them on the left. Its two tier justice .One for the dems and one for the Gop. The dems have weaponized the fed Govt and State govt to go after their opponents using lawfare! Question ,Is the law governing alternate electors( fake electors is A made up term by the far left to deliberately manipulate the narrative) cut & dry? If it was or is then why did the dems do this in 2022. https://www.cardin.senate.gov/news/u-s-senate-bills-would-ban-fake-electors-clear-up-electoral-college-procedures/ No it wasn’t illegal or fake , it wasn’t even clear!! More election interference in these state lawfare proceedings. imop Edited April 21 by riclag 1 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 Always amusing to see how trumpers rationalize and justify illegality. The former so-called "law and order Party" has morphed into the "And you thought Popes were infallible Party!", where anything their messiah does---from paying off porn stars while cheating on his latest wife to stealing classified documents and lying about it, to pressuring a State official to alter votes, to calling his goobers to DC on a day involving a simple pro forma certification of an election, to sending his goobers to attack the Capitol, to sitting on his bloated backside and doing nothing while watching a gallows erected on the Capitol grounds and his goobers chanting "Hang Mike Pence"---is kosher (to be somewhat ecumenical with Popes and kosher). Any illegality in the service of their messiah is okay. In trumpistan, terrorists are "hostages and political prisoners" (you know, the ones who beat 140 cops, sh!t on the floor of the Capitol and rubbed the feces on the walls, smashed windows and doors, and tried to find the VP and SotH to do both severe harm), lies are 'alternative facts', truth isn't truth (Rudy), the 'best economy ever' isn't in the top 70%, and elections are "heads I win, tails you lose". LOL "trumpers" 8 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Again you show that you know nothing about the USA election machine... you call them "fake"... yet there is evidence that this is part and parcel to the "alternate" electors used by BOTH parties... let's talk about something that you actually know about... anything come to mind? Sooo they are being charged with fake made up charges ehhh??? Fake laws??? Ahhh ok if you say so,personally especially in the case of this DOJ they think things through before they pull the plug 2 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Again you show that you know nothing about the USA election machine... you call them "fake"... yet there is evidence that this is part and parcel to the "alternate" electors used by BOTH parties... let's talk about something that you actually know about... anything come to mind? Seems you know nothing about the law. Submitting fake signed election documents to the Federal Government is a Felony. Election fraud is a felony. Reality is real! 5 3 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, impulse said: Dems better be careful what they wish for. Just about every candidate puts together a slate of alternate electors in states where the voting is close. Gore had 'em. Hillary had 'em. Obama had 'em. Start prosecuting alternate electors on the right and you can guaranty they'll start prosecuting them on the left. The problem isn't alternate electors. The criming part came when they signed documents claiming they were the duly elected electors. Which they weren't. Of course, all presidential candidates have slates of potential electors, but they can't claim they are electors until and unless the election is certified. If their candidate isn't the certified winner, they can't claim they are certified electors. Which is what these future felons did - in writing, sent to Washington DC. 5 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, riclag said: Its two tier justice .One for the dems and one for the Gop. The dems have weaponized the fed Govt and State govt to go after their opponents using lawfare! Question ,Is the law governing alternate electors( fake electors is A made up term by the far left to deliberately manipulate the narrative) cut & dry? If it was or is then why did the dems do this in 2022. https://www.cardin.senate.gov/news/u-s-senate-bills-would-ban-fake-electors-clear-up-electoral-college-procedures/ No it wasn’t illegal or fake , it wasn’t even clear!! More election interference in these state lawfare proceedings. imop The law is clear that no one is an electors until and unless their candidate is the certified winner in their state. Claiming you are an elector when you aren't and sending that claim across state lines is a Federal crime. Or a state crime while the fraudulent documents are within the state. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Again you show that you know nothing about the USA election machine... you call them "fake"... yet there is evidence that this is part and parcel to the "alternate" electors used by BOTH parties... let's talk about something that you actually know about... anything come to mind? Nope. I don't think you have thought this through. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: The problem isn't alternate electors. The criming part came when they signed documents claiming they were the duly elected electors. Which they weren't. Of course, all presidential candidates have slates of potential electors, but they can't claim they are electors until and unless the election is certified. If their candidate isn't the certified winner, they can't claim they are certified electors. Which is what these future felons did - in writing, sent to Washington DC. You mean like what the Dems did to Bernie? And tried to do to Bush? Edited April 22 by impulse 1 8 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, impulse said: You mean like what the Dems did to Bernie? Bernie Sanders never ran in a national presidential election with electors. But your implication with "what about" is that you acknowledge the criminality of fake electors. 1 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 Are the Dems just super slow when it comes to making political court cases, or are they so desperate that they'll clutch at any straw in hopes of it being the one to bring the Donald down. What a pack of dozy numptys. 5 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: Are the Dems just super slow when it comes to making political court cases, or are they so desperate that they'll clutch at any straw in hopes of it being the one to bring the Donald down. What a pack of dozy numptys. Trump is not a defendant in these trials of fake electors. 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Bernie Sanders never ran in a national presidential election with electors. But your implication with "what about" is that you acknowledge the criminality of fake electors. That has to be a classic, even for you. He never ran because the Dems sabotaged him, knife in the back and all that, and who did they do it for, why that woman, who lost to Trump of all people. Any half decent candidate would likely have outvoted Trump two to one after his pussy tape fiasco. I was astonished that he won despite that. I underestimated how much US citizens loath Washington and the elites. 1 3 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: That has to be a classic, even for you. He never ran because the Dems sabotaged him, knife in the back and all that, and who did they do it for, why that woman, who lost to Trump of all people. Any half decent candidate would likely have outvoted Trump two to one after his pussy tape fiasco. I was astonished that he won despite that. I underestimated how much US citizens loath Washington and the elites. Massive Putin inteference for Trump's win. Still lose on popular votes. Then again he was booted out of office after one term when voters saw the incompetence and realized that Trump was the epitome of the Washington elite. 2 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: That has to be a classic, even for you. He never ran because the Dems sabotaged him, knife in the back and all that, and who did they do it for, why that woman, who lost to Trump of all people. Any half decent candidate would likely have outvoted Trump two to one after his pussy tape fiasco. I was astonished that he won despite that. I underestimated how much US citizens loath Washington and the elites. Bernie Sanders' loss in the Dem primaries in 2016 is not germane to this topic, which is about Donald Trump's illegal recruitment of fake electors. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Are the Dems just super slow when it comes to making political court cases, or are they so desperate that they'll clutch at any straw in hopes of it being the one to bring the Donald down. What a pack of dozy numptys. Have you considered that the Trump lawyers' principal defense is delay? 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 The usual MAGA way of argumenting: making up laws, deflections, and false equivalences.... 2 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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