UN Report Warns Of Asia's Increasing Climate Crisis

[Danderman123]

The knuckle draggers never have a scientific explanation for the recent warming. All they have is "Al Gore has a big house".

[connda]

On 4/26/2024 at 9:04 AM, webfact said:

A recent report from the United Nations reveals that Asia, identified as the world's disaster centre, is significantly affected by climate-related disruptions like floods, storms, extreme temperatures, and melting glaciers.

Are the Gore's, Obama's, and Biden's ocean-front properties flooded yet by the "melting glaciers?"

No.  Didn't think so.  "But but but - Asia!!! Asia is under water!!!"
What?  Now we're suppose to believe that the world is tilted and the melting glaciers are flooding Asia but not the East Coast of America? 

Ok - whatever.  To paraphrase PT Barnum, "There is a sucker in every crowd."

[connda]

7 hours ago, rickudon said:

Oh dear. The knuckle dragging conspiracy theorists have been having a moan. just a couple of FACTS.

 

ONE. The average monthly global temperature has set a new record every month for the last year.

 

TWO. The last 8 years were the warmest on record. (Actually 9, because it hasn't counted 2023)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/climate/earth-hottest-years.html

 

THREE.  Thailand related. April average Maximum temperature in Udon Thani was over 40 Centigrade. Before you bleat about that it is always hot, the 30 year average for April  is 37 Centigrade.

 

And they let these people vote? No wonder the world is a mess.

Eat the bugs.  That will fix it all. 

[rickudon]

On 5/3/2024 at 10:16 PM, connda said:

Eat the bugs.  That will fix it all. 

That's the wife's contribution. i will stick to fish i grow myself.

[Bobthegimp]

On 4/26/2024 at 5:59 PM, charleskerins said:

stay asleep     interesting you mentioned 3 families   all Democrats  R's don't own beach property    ?   What do those 3 families have to do with sea levels rising?       okay wake up   

"AMY GREEN

SCIENCE

MAR 16, 2024 4:00 AM

Insurance Rates Are Soaring for US Homeowners in Climate Danger Zones

Research shows the soaring costs hint at widespread, unpriced risk as the global climate warms, with states like California, Florida, and Louisiana hit hardest."

 

That has nothing to do with climate change.

 

California has always had wildfires. Always. They've always had the Santa Annas to fan the flames. I remember this from the news footage during  my childhood 50 years ago.  The places you mentioned on the other coast have always had hurricanes and storm surges. It's well documented and nothing new.

 

Insurance rates rise in step with housing prices and increased construction costs, so blaming the climate is disingenuous. 

 

The democrats you refer to are the main people ringing the climate change alarm bell.  The bloated swine, Al Gore is the worst offender. Plenty of corrupt republicans as well, they're just not at the forefront of the climate scam. Isn't Trump's estate on a waterway in Florida?  

 

Why don't the climate gang ever mention Gore's predictions? Ever? You're welcome to believe whatever you like. I'll pay more heed when these hypocrites downsize and start living the way they are forcing the rest of us to live. 

Edited May 5 by Bobthegimp
Missed an apostrophe

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Bobthegimp said:

 

That has nothing to do with climate change.

 

California has always had wildfires. Always. They've always had the Santa Annas to fan the flames. I remember this from the news footage during  my childhood 50 years ago.  The places you mentioned on the other coast have always had hurricanes and storm surges. It's well documented and nothing new.

 

Insurance rates rise in step with housing prices and increased construction costs, so blaming the climate is disingenuous. 

 

The democrats you refer to are the main people ringing the climate change alarm bell.  The bloated swine, Al Gore is the worst offender. Plenty of corrupt republicans as well, they're just not at the forefront of the climate scam. Isn't Trump's estate on a waterway in Florida?  

 

Why don't the climate gang ever mention Gore's predictions? Ever? You're welcome to believe whatever you like. I'll pay more heed when these hypocrites downsize and start living the way they are forcing the rest of us to live. 

And yet, global temperature is increasing, precisely as Al Gore predicted 20 years ago. Carbon Dioxide levels continue to increase, far above historical levels. Your post ignores basic facts.

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5 hours ago, Bobthegimp said:

 

That has nothing to do with climate change.

 

California has always had wildfires. Always. They've always had the Santa Annas to fan the flames. I remember this from the news footage during  my childhood 50 years ago.  The places you mentioned on the other coast have always had hurricanes and storm surges. It's well documented and nothing new.

 

Insurance rates rise in step with housing prices and increased construction costs, so blaming the climate is disingenuous. 

 

The democrats you refer to are the main people ringing the climate change alarm bell.  The bloated swine, Al Gore is the worst offender. Plenty of corrupt republicans as well, they're just not at the forefront of the climate scam. Isn't Trump's estate on a waterway in Florida?  

 

Why don't the climate gang ever mention Gore's predictions? Ever? You're welcome to believe whatever you like. I'll pay more heed when these hypocrites downsize and start living the way they are forcing the rest of us to live. 

False. It's not the same old same old Major insurance companies are actually refusing to take on new properties and some are even abandoning the California market. 

California loses 2 more property insurers in growing crisis

"However, as a rising number of insurers have limited coverage or exited the state, some homeowners are left with only the insurance option of last resort, the government-created FAIR Plan. Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara is trying to stem the exodus with a new “Sustainable Insurance Strategy,” which includes rules that insurers must write at least an average of 85% of their California market share in high wildfire risk communities."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/california-loses-two-more-property-insurers-growing-crisis...

 

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[susanlea]

On 4/26/2024 at 6:01 PM, ikke1959 said:

Thailand will surely start when it is too late already, when the floods are drowning the country, heatwaves burns in the afternoons, and air pollution is at dangerous levels... As long none of this happens, nobody will take actions too.. That is the policy of the last years till recent and will go on and on.. In the rainy season we will surely read again about regions that are flooded, but the rain will solve the air pollution  and it will be les shot, and all problems are solved again for a few months...

Climate isn't controlled locally. Regardless of what Thailand does neither the temperatures or rain will be affected.

 

The weather has been fantastic south of Bangkok recently. Warm sunny days, not too hot at all.

 

 

[susanlea]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

And yet, global temperature is increasing, precisely as Al Gore predicted 20 years ago. Carbon Dioxide levels continue to increase, far above historical levels. Your post ignores basic facts.

Gore was totally wrong as always. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-climate-change-idUSL1N2RV0K6/

[ikke1959]

37 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Climate isn't controlled locally. Regardless of what Thailand does neither the temperatures or rain will be affected.

 

The weather has been fantastic south of Bangkok recently. Warm sunny days, not too hot at all.

 

 

Not too hot at all??? 42  C in the fields in Phetchaburi province at noon, but happily in the evening with some wind a few degrees less

[susanlea]

Just now, ikke1959 said:

Not too hot at all??? 42  C in the fields in Phetchaburi province at noon, but happily in the evening with some wind a few degrees less

33 degrees here. Beautiful. Hope you found a restaurant.

[Danderman123]

On 4/26/2024 at 9:27 AM, connda said:

And yet high-ranking politicians and the millionaire/billionaire classes enjoy their beach front properties world-wide without a care.  Hint:  It sea levels were rising, then none of those beach front properties on the oceans could be insured.  And those same people fly private jets which spew enough CO2 for hundreds of people.  If this was real then all private jets should be immediately grounded to "save the planet" and all of the billionaire/millionaire classes force to take commercial flights and yet? 

None of that happens.  Why?  It's all 🐂💩  Climate is cyclical and that cyclical nature is due to that big yellow thing up in the sky.  Not cow farts.

Your logic is flawed.

 

Let's assume that the current warming is completely natural. In that case, something has got to be done to protect against increasing rainfall, floods, hurricanes, etc.

 

Are you on board for that?

[Danderman123]

39 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Gore was totally wrong as always. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-climate-change-idUSL1N2RV0K6/

Nope. You are fixated on one statement by Al Gore, and ignoring his central prediction: more carbon Dioxide would result in higher global temperatures (100% correct).

 

 

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope. You are fixated on one statement by Al Gore, and ignoring his central prediction: more carbon Dioxide would result in higher global temperatures (100% correct).

 

 

Everybody said temperatures would go up. Gore said they would go up a lot more and most of the ice would melt so he was wrong. At least learn how science and predictions work. Saying Gore was right is like saying the sun will rise in the east and set in the west.

 

 

[susanlea]

8 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Your logic is flawed.

 

Let's assume that the current warming is completely natural. In that case, something has got to be done to protect against increasing rainfall, floods, hurricanes, etc.

 

Are you on board for that?

All scientists agree co2 has some warming affect. Deaths from floods, fires etc are a lot less than 50 years ago.

 

Have you not understood any form of science or flood mitigation? 

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1 minute ago, susanlea said:

Everybody said temperatures would go up. Gore said they would go up a lot more and most of the ice would melt so he was wrong. At least learn how science and predictions work. Saying Gore was right is like saying the sun will rise in the east and set in the west.

You clearly didn't read the link you cited. Gore was referring to a prediction made by a climate researcher. He got that prediction somewhat wrong but he never claimed what you said he did.

And you're also wrong about everybody claiming that temperatures would continue to rise. In fact, climate change denialists said just the opposite. They claimed that in the 21st century temperatures would decline. Richard Lindzen, one of the leading denialists, actually publicly offered to bet that in 20 years the average global temperature would actually decline.

"Professor Lindzen had been willing to bet that global temperatures would drop over the next 20 years. No bet was agreed on that; Dr Annan said Prof Lindzen wanted odds of 50-1 against falling temperatures, so would win $10,000 if the Earth cooled but pay out only £200 if it warmed."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2005/aug/19/climatechange.climatechangeenvironment#:~:text=Professor Lindzen had been willing,£200 if it warmed.

And he was far from alone in making that prediction.

 

[susanlea]

Just now, placeholder said:

 

You clearly didn't read the link you cited. Gore was referring to a prediction made by a climate researcher. He got that prediction somewhat wrong but he never claimed what you said he did.

And you're also wrong about everybody claiming that temperatures would continue to rise. In fact, climate change denialists said just the opposite. They claimed that in the 21st century temperatures would decline. Richard Lindzen, one of the leading denialists, actually publicly offered to bet that in 20 years the average global temperature would actually decline.

"Professor Lindzen had been willing to bet that global temperatures would drop over the next 20 years. No bet was agreed on that; Dr Annan said Prof Lindzen wanted odds of 50-1 against falling temperatures, so would win $10,000 if the Earth cooled but pay out only £200 if it warmed."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2005/aug/19/climatechange.climatechangeenvironment#:~:text=Professor Lindzen had been willing,£200 if it warmed.

And he was far from alone in making that prediction.

 

Gore was quoting others and passing it off to scare people. Gore is a known scaremonger.

 

Your comment about some bet is also misguided. At 50-1 that would be worth it.

 

 

[susanlea]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/al-gore-adopt-the-lefts-climate-agenda-or-else-there-will-be-one-billion-climate-refugees

 

Gore trying again to scare people. The guy has no shame.

[susanlea]

"In addition, in his 2006 global warming documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," Gore predicted that the global sea level could rise as much as 20 feet "in the near future.""

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/al-gore-history-climate-predictions-statements-proven-false

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9 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Gore was quoting others and passing it off to scare people. Gore is a known scaremonger.

 

Your comment about some bet is also misguided. At 50-1 that would be worth it.

 

 

Your comment makes no sense. Richard Lindzen, one of the leading scientists denying global warming made a bet that global average temperature would fall rather than rise. Maybe the bet would be worth it at those odds, but do you seriously believe that he just made that bet to make a possible killing?

[placeholder]

7 minutes ago, susanlea said:

"In addition, in his 2006 global warming documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," Gore predicted that the global sea level could rise as much as 20 feet "in the near future.""

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/al-gore-history-climate-predictions-statements-proven-false

Here is the headline of the article you originally linked to:

Al Gore did not ‘predict’ ice caps melting by 2013 but misrepresented data

 

It goes into a great deal of detail about why what you are now claiming and that fox news article you linked to is a misrepresentation.

[susanlea]

Just now, placeholder said:

Your comment makes no sense. Richard Lindzen, one of the leading scientists denying global warming made a bet that global average temperature would fall rather than rise. Maybe the bet would be worth it at those odds, but do you seriously believe that he just made that bet to make a possible killing?

Your comments make no sense at all. Many factors determine temperatures and the odds of 50-1 mean he wasn't confident of being right. If he was confident he would bet at 1-1. Happy to take a bet at 5mm rainfall on November 1st at 50-1 in Phuket.

[susanlea]

Just now, placeholder said:

Here is the headline of the article you originally linked to:

Al Gore did not ‘predict’ ice caps melting by 2013 but misrepresented data

 

It goes into a great deal of detail about why what you are now claiming and that fox news article you linked to is a misrepresentation.

Gore quoted other people which means he believed it. So Gore should apologise for it.

 

 

[susanlea]

Gore has a long history of bad climate predictions.

 

https://capitalresearch.org/article/al-gores-30-years-of-climate-errors-part-2/

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7 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Gore has a long history of bad climate predictions.

 

https://capitalresearch.org/article/al-gores-30-years-of-climate-errors-part-2/

Ultimately, so what? Gore is not a scientist. If it's science you want, go to scientific journals. There the consensus is overwhelming.

[placeholder]

11 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Gore quoted other people which means he believed it. So Gore should apologise for it.

 

 

Really? Offering someone else's opinion constitutes an endorsement? And as the article which you originally linked to and are now ignoring, Gore did not categorically state that such melting would occur.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Really? Offering someone else's opinion constitutes an endorsement? And as the article which you originally linked to and are now ignoring, Gore did not categorically state that such melting would occur.

Still making up excuses for the serial scaremonger who is always wrong. Pretty desperate.

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Ultimately, so what? Gore is not a scientist. If it's science you want, go to scientific journals. There the consensus is overwhelming.

Consensus is not science. Unlike yourself I know how science works. Even the skeptic you quoted gave warming a 98% chance and cooling a 2% chance.

[Danderman123]

54 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Everybody said temperatures would go up. Gore said they would go up a lot more and most of the ice would melt so he was wrong. 

 

 

Nope.

 

There was great debate 20 years about whether there would be warming - remember the great hockey stick chart controversy?

 

Gore himself did not make predictions about warming; rather he quoted mainstream climate scientists who got it right. The Deniers claimed the warming wasn't real, and some predicted cooling. Now they are in the dustbin of history. This guy got a lot of play 20 years ago:

 

Russian scientist predicts global cooling

 

 

[susanlea]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Nope.

 

There was great debate 20 years about whether there would be warming - remember the great hockey stick chart controversy?

 

Gore himself did not make predictions about warming; rather he quoted mainstream climate scientists who got it right. The Deniers claimed the warming wasn't real, and some predicted cooling. Now they are in the dustbin of history. This guy got a lot of play 20 years ago:

 

Russian scientist predicts global cooling

 

 

Your link quotes 1 scientist. Terrible post.