Popular Post Social Media Posted April 30 Popular Post Posted April 30 Columbia University finds itself at the center of a heated debate as pro-Palestinian protesters occupy a key building on campus. The scene at Hamilton Hall is tense as banners reading "Intifada" hang from windows, symbolizing a fervent uprising. But what led to this standoff, and what does it mean for the university community? The protest, which began peacefully, has escalated into a standoff between student activists and university officials. As tensions rise, access to the campus is restricted, with only residential students and essential employees allowed entry. The campus is on edge, with safety concerns at the forefront of everyone's minds. The catalyst for the protest stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas in Gaza. For months, students have set up camp on campus to express their opposition to Israel's actions. Despite efforts to negotiate a resolution, talks between student organizers and university leaders have reached a stalemate. In a bold move, protesters stormed Hamilton Hall, barricading themselves inside with makeshift fortifications. The symbolism is clear - they refuse to back down until their demands are met. The group responsible, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, has outlined three key demands: divestment, financial transparency, and amnesty for protesters. The university, caught between the demands of its students and its obligations to maintain order, has taken a firm stance. President Minouche Shafik announced that negotiations had failed, and students who defied the deadline to vacate the encampments would face suspension. The situation has reached a critical juncture, with both sides digging in their heels. For now, the occupation of Hamilton Hall continues, with no clear resolution in sight. As both sides remain entrenched in their positions, the future of the protest - and its impact on the university - remains uncertain. 2024-05-01 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 2 1
Bkk Brian Posted May 1 Posted May 1 About time, why did they wait so long #HAPPENINGNOW: @Columbia has requested our assistance to take back their campus, which has seen disturbing acts of violence, forms of intimidation & destruction of property. @NYPDnews is dispersing the unlawful encampment and persons barricaded inside of university buildings and restoring order. We are in constant communication with university officials. Our priority is and always will be public safety for all. 4 1
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 Finally! Time for the precious snowflakes to learn that actions have consequences. Now, if I were the university administration, I would have taken a different path. Once the encampment was set up, I would have built a wall or fence around it. Not let anyone enter or leave. Not let anyone pass anything back and forth. Basically, let them wither on the vine. Guarantee that within 24 hours of being without their Starbucks Pumpkin Cinnamon Latte they would be screaming to be let out. It worked great in Germany when a group trespassed at the Porche Museum. 5 2 2 2 1
Popular Post Walker88 Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 Legitimate protest is fine, so long as they do not block access to those going about their business. Attacking other students simply because the students are Jewish is unacceptable. Doing any damage or taking over buildings is criminal, and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, just as the 6 January criminals were. Expel them from the university to teach everybody a lesson, and jail if the statutes call for it. No exceptions, no excuses. I'm an old school liberal. What they are doing is neither liberal nor progressive. It might be a fad, but it is most definitely criminal. 2 2 8
Popular Post pegman Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 Power to the anti-genocide\apartheid protesters! 2 2 2 2 3 3
Popular Post pegman Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Walker88 said: Legitimate protest is fine, so long as they do not block access to those going about their business. Attacking other students simply because the students are Jewish is unacceptable. Doing any damage or taking over buildings is criminal, and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, just as the 6 January criminals were. Expel them from the university to teach everybody a lesson, and jail if the statutes call for it. No exceptions, no excuses. I'm an old school liberal. What they are doing is neither liberal nor progressive. It might be a fad, but it is most definitely criminal. You make no comment on what is happening in Gazza. As this is the root cause for the protest should we take it that you were good with what is happening there? 3 9 2 1 3
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 6 minutes ago, pegman said: You make no comment on what is happening in Gazza. As this is the root cause for the protest should we take it that you were good with what is happening there? Chances are that half the smooth brained idiots at these protests couldn't find Gaza on a map, nevermind articulate any sensible position on the subject. There are more than 100 conflicts currently going on in the world, yet somehow this one particular conflict gains their attention. Wonder why... 1 1 3 1 3 10
Hanaguma Posted May 1 Posted May 1 9 minutes ago, pegman said: Power to the anti-genocide\apartheid protesters! I agree 100%, as do most sensible people. Protest away, as long as you don't damage property or infringe on the rights of other people to go about their lives, work, study, etc. At that point, you lose your legitimacy and drift into criminality. As an aside, it is strange to me that all these 'protesters' would probably consider themselves staunch environmentalists too. Yet they leave behind the most disgusting messes when they lose interest in their 'cause' or are expelled. 1 2
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: I agree 100%, as do most sensible people. Protest away, as long as you don't damage property or infringe on the rights of other people to go about their lives, work, study, etc. At that point, you lose your legitimacy and drift into criminality. As an aside, it is strange to me that all these 'protesters' would probably consider themselves staunch environmentalists too. Yet they leave behind the most disgusting messes when they lose interest in their 'cause' or are expelled. There are 10s of thousands of people dying in Gaza and you compare it to litter? 3 1 2
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Chances are that half the smooth brained idiots at these protests couldn't find Gaza on a map, nevermind articulate any sensible position on the subject. There are more than 100 conflicts currently going on in the world, yet somehow this one particular conflict gains their attention. Wonder why... The USA are funding Genocide, name any other Genocide they funded and supplied weapons. These student know that US policy regarding Israel is not Democratic. 7 3 1 4
Popular Post NickyLouie Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 Just now, Neeranam said: The USA are funding Genocide, name any other Genocide they funded and supplied weapons. These student know that US policy regarding Israel is not Democratic. Are you hurt or injured ? 1 3 3
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: There are 10s of thousands of people dying in Gaza and you compare it to litter? Yes. If you can't even keep your immediate surroundings neat and tidy, what right do you expect to have to voice concerns over larger and more important issues? Nobody will listen to you, and why should they. People have been dying in Gaza since October. Yet the 'protesters' waited until the balmy days of spring to start protesting. 1 3
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: The USA are funding Genocide, name any other Genocide they funded and supplied weapons. These student know that US policy regarding Israel is not Democratic. Israel is literally the only democratic state in the region. Supporting it is by definition supporting democracy. Or would you rather the head hackers and rapists get more support? 3 1 1 3 6
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Hanaguma said: Israel is literally the only democratic state in the region. Supporting it is by definition supporting democracy. Or would you rather the head hackers and rapists get more support? Oh the head hackers the POTUS lied about? Come on man, don't believe the US Propaganda. This war is not based on reason, it due to the religion of those running the USA. The President, whose grandkids are Jewish, Secretary of State is Jewish, in fact there is an unproportionately high number of Jews in Senate/Government and an unproportionately low number of Muslims. Both religious groups are around 2% of the population, but many Muslims are not counted in the pop figures. Jews in Senate, 9% and in top positions, Muslims 1%. Can't you see why these intelligent youngsters in the US are protesting? 2 5 1 2 3
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 11 minutes ago, Neeranam said: The USA are funding Genocide, name any other Genocide they funded and supplied weapons. These student know that US policy regarding Israel is not Democratic. That's a lie, the USA never funded the genocidal Hamas 3 1 1 4 3
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Oh the head hackers the POTUS lied about? Come on man, don't believe the US Propaganda. This war is not based on reason, it due to the religion of those running the USA. The President, whose grandkids are Jewish, Secretary of State is Jewish, in fact there is an unproportionately high number of Jews in Senate/Government and an unproportionately low number of Muslims. Both religious groups are around 2% of the population, but many Muslims are not counted in the pop figures. Jews in Senate, 9% and in top positions, Muslims 1%. Can't you see why these intelligent youngsters in the US are protesting? Oh, are we going to play "Count the Jews"? Lets count the number of Jews who are even ALIVE in any of the 22 Arab countries in the world. If you want to talk religion, ask youself where they all went, and why. Now compare that to the number of Arabs in Israel. I'll wait for your answer. 6 1 1 2
Hanaguma Posted May 1 Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Oh the head hackers the POTUS lied about? No, I mean THESE head hackers... https://www.nationthailand.com/world/middle-east-africa/40032287 1 1
impulse Posted May 1 Posted May 1 The real tell is going to be how (and even if) these rioters, trespassers, and (alleged) kidnappers will be charged. Or will they be back on campus before their next meal.
Neeranam Posted May 1 Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Oh, are we going to play "Count the Jews"? Lets count the number of Jews who are even ALIVE in any of the 22 Arab countries in the world. If you want to talk religion, ask youself where they all went, and why. Now compare that to the number of Arabs in Israel. I'll wait for your answer. When having a discussion about the people against Israeli genocide in Gaza, would you want to know if they were Muslim or not? Do you think it might have something to do with their decision? You mean 20% of Arabs who don't have equal rights in Israel. You think this is a high percentage of people who have lived there for generations?
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 41 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Chances are that half the smooth brained idiots at these protests couldn't find Gaza on a map, nevermind articulate any sensible position on the subject. There are more than 100 conflicts currently going on in the world, yet somehow this one particular conflict gains their attention. Wonder why... It's not a conflict, it's a genocide. 8 1 3
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 1 minute ago, rattlesnake said: It's not a conflict, it's a genocide. Exactly, and the Yanks here, especially the Jewish ones use words to make it sound like something else. 4 3 2
Popular Post NickyLouie Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 Just now, Neeranam said: Exactly, and the Yanks here, especially the Jewish ones use words to make it sound like something else. And as much and you whine and cry, it's still continued success by Israel. Go back to the EU and sympathize with the Muslim takeover there. 5 1 1 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 15 minutes ago, Neeranam said: When having a discussion about the people against Israeli genocide in Gaza, would you want to know if they were Muslim or not? Do you think it might have something to do with their decision? You mean 20% of Arabs who don't have equal rights in Israel. You think this is a high percentage of people who have lived there for generations? You mean the 20% who vote in elections, are members of parliament, who are judges, etc. THAT 20%? Cool. Now tell me the treatment of Jews who lived in Arab countries for generations. How were there lives? How are THEY doing today? It is a valid comparison if you are trying to assert that Israel is the bad guy in a region of innocents. 3 1 1
Neeranam Posted May 1 Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, NickyLouie said: And as much and you whine and cry, it's still continued success by Israel. Go back to the EU and sympathize with the Muslim takeover there. I don't particularly like Muslims. Am I allowed to say that? I have no sympathy for them in the UK. 1 1 1
Popular Post Walker88 Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 49 minutes ago, pegman said: You make no comment on what is happening in Gazza. As this is the root cause for the protest should we take it that you were good with what is happening there? The topic is their protest and the violence in which they are engaging. I seriously doubt many have much of an understanding of the Middle East issue, and I do not think their primary concern is for the innocent Gaza residents being killed. It's more...did you see my latest TikTok or Facebook post? Neither do I think harassing other students simply because they are Jewish is an effective means of protest. It is simply racism, nothing less. Peaceful protests are fine. Smashing windows, taking over buildings, and harassing Jewish students in not fine. Engaging in violence neither solves anything nor wins any hearts and minds. Protests are not going to stop the carnage in Gaza, nor will it get any hostages released, nor will it solve the issue of Hamas terrorism. Hamas leaders live a life of luxury in Doha (and were supported by Netanyahu, because 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend---the 'enemy' being a Two State Solution) the Hamas terrorist who carried out 7 October are proud of their rapes and murders, Netanyahu is not going to stop West Bank settlement building...so the violence in the protests is achieving what (other than having classes go online and likely final exams postponed)? No, I'm not Jewish. Yes, I lived in Israel. Yes, I lived in several Middle East nations. I speak, read and write Arabic. I know the issue (from study and living) going back to the early days of Zionism, through Deir Yassin, through the '67 war, the '73 war, Camp David, the Oslo Accords, all the way through to today. I'm not a fan of the hardliners on any side. 3 2
Neeranam Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Hanaguma said: You mean the 20% who vote in elections, are members of parliament, who are judges, etc. THAT 20%? Cool. Now tell me the treatment of Jews who lived in Arab countries for generations. How were there lives? How are THEY doing today? It is a valid comparison if you are trying to assert that Israel is the bad guy in a region of innocents. Arab Israelis have historically faced discrimination and socioeconomic disparities, which can contribute to their underrepresentation in government. The Nation-State Law(2018) undermines the rights of non-Jewish citizens, particularly Arab Israelis. Surely you can see that Israel don't want them there? It was your people that were responsible for the State of Israel being formed, which encouraged Jews to move there. That is why there are few Jews in Arab countries. This is what caused the anti-Jewish sentiment in Arab countries. If you can't see this, I suggest you look deeply at why you support Israel fervently. 1 1
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Arab Israelis have historically faced discrimination and socioeconomic disparities, which can contribute to their underrepresentation in government. The Nation-State Law(2018) undermines the rights of non-Jewish citizens, particularly Arab Israelis. Surely you can see that Israel don't want them there? It was your people that were responsible for the State of Israel being formed, which encouraged Jews to move there. That is why there are few Jews in Arab countries. This is what caused the anti-Jewish sentiment in Arab countries. If you can't see this, I suggest you look deeply at why you support Israel fervently. Love the victim blaming here. You can't face the reality that Jews in Arab countries were vilified, robbed, and ejected by the thousand. It wasn't "encouragement" from the newly formed state of Israel. It was bitter jealousy and extreme anti semitism. Or don't you believe that Arabs and Muslims are capable of being rational and decent? 3 2
Bkk Brian Posted May 1 Posted May 1 9 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Arab Israelis have historically faced discrimination and socioeconomic disparities, which can contribute to their underrepresentation in government. The Nation-State Law(2018) undermines the rights of non-Jewish citizens, particularly Arab Israelis. Surely you can see that Israel don't want them there? It was your people that were responsible for the State of Israel being formed, which encouraged Jews to move there. That is why there are few Jews in Arab countries. This is what caused the anti-Jewish sentiment in Arab countries. If you can't see this, I suggest you look deeply at why you support Israel fervently. There are plenty of Arab Israelis in the IDF who were fighting the Hamas terrorists and trying to get the hostages back. Do you wanted the hostages released and a ceasefire put I place? 2 1 1
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 1 Popular Post Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Love the victim blaming here. You can't face the reality that Jews in Arab countries were vilified, robbed, and ejected by the thousand. It wasn't "encouragement" from the newly formed state of Israel. It was bitter jealousy and extreme anti semitism. Or don't you believe that Arabs and Muslims are capable of being rational and decent? You are biased here against Muslims. I am an impartial observer, neither Jewish nor Muslim. Both groups have been responsible for the problems, but the Israelis more so. I could give the reasons why of you want. 1 4 2
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