Roo Island Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 10 hours ago, cncltd1973 said: no, genocide looks very different than this. hamas fires artillery from city centers, apartments, etc and waits for the incoming artillery response to kill their own citizens, all for global awareness. I'd call it self-sacrifice. the executive in Qatar are happy to drive up the numbers to get an international outcry. again, hamas can surrender at any time It's the other way around.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 9 minutes ago, Roo Island said: Hamas is potentially being indicated Yes I know, the ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan visited the families of the victims in in Israel many months ago along with visiting the sites of the atrocities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 12 minutes ago, Roo Island said: It's the other way around.... No its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: No its not Ah. Got it now. Sorry. Either way. It's absolutely horrible what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, Roo Island said: Ah. Got it now. Sorry. Either way. It's absolutely horrible what is happening. Yes but I suspect you are not getting the right information seeing as you don't even know the correct figures 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Yes but I suspect you are not getting the right information seeing as you don't even know the correct figures What are the correct figures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Roo Island said: What are the correct figures? Not the ones given by Hamas and then parroted by media and the UN. Even Hamas admits it doesn't have the right figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Not the ones given by Hamas and then parroted by media and the UN. Even Hamas admits it doesn't have the right figures. What are they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, Roo Island said: What are they? Why ask such a silly question? Nobody has the correct figures BBC admits its reporting of Gaza ‘civilian’ deaths was inaccurate Figure reported from Hamas-run health ministry included the deaths of Hamas fighters https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/25/bbc-admits-reporting-gaza-civilian-deaths-inaccurate/ https://archive.ph/NVUW3 The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/04/09/hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry-admits-to-flaws-in-casualty-data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) First Amendment Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Probe all they wish, but when they begin passing laws to directly or indirectly "abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press" and "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" (protest) they'll be shot down in short order in federal courts. Right now the Uni-Party, i.e., Congress, with the exception of a handful of legislators not bought and paid for by billionaires mega-donors and lobbies who are anti-Palestinian and anti-Muslim and pro-war, are in the process of doing just that. Attempting to make excuses to eviscerate the Constitution. And they are saying it: "We can't allow this speech or that speech, or speech against this group whom we support or that group whom we support. Of course - they are paid to protect those whom their donors expect to be protected and shut down the speech by those their donors do not like. That's not how the Constitution was framed. They are going after "protected speech" and it will get shot down in Federal courts (as it should), and barring that the SCOTUS. I know there are people, including US legislators and US citizens who wish to live under totalitarian control - and call it "democracy" - but as long as the SCOTUS functions that isn't going to happen. Keep an eye on this thread as you'll see those people who wish to destroy the Constitution say so right here. They'll start out with: "Freedom of speech is not absolute!!!" Yes - it is. Except in a very, extremely limited set of circumstances, and most of those have already been established in Constitutional Law via precedent. And the recent arrests on US university campuses are going to create a plethora of new cases, as well as laws moving through Congress to "abridge the freedom of speech" which are supported by both Democrats and Republicans. I never thought I'd see the day - but here it is. You say you don't like US Constitutional "protected speech?" Then move to the UK or the EU and ask for asylum based on being terminally offended by "hate speech" or "political speech" which IS "protected speech" under the First Amendment of the US Constitution. The watchers of MSM cable news whether on the Left or Right will be holding hands as they board the first planes back to the England to swear fidelity to King Charles if he promises to protect them from the scourge of the First Amendment and unrestrained "Free Speech." Edited May 4 by connda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Meanwhile back to the topic Pro-Palestine campus group behind Columbia University protests received over $3million a year in funding from 'charities' linked to Hamas The 73-page report, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com, also pointed out explicit pro-Hamas statements, chants and placards by protesters, and asserted that the demonstration has crossed the line from criticism of the Israeli government to bald-faced antisemitism. The report also called for a law enforcement and government investigation into SJP. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13363943/Pro-Palestine-group-Columbia-University-protests-funding-linked-Hamas.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Gag! 😊 “I think [FBI officials] need to look at the root causes and find out if some of this was funded by, I don’t know, George Soros or overseas entities,” Democrats knock Johnson for suggesting George Soros behind campus protests https://www.aol.com/news/democrats-knock-johnson-suggesting-george-093000204.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAK2z4yM6TraHdj6s-RZAkrWZkYJKBb46qW1JD92sbl6Y1BAlKUasPjiqw3P-PnAuSgQ0pf9gkHIpOMBUFIa6qP_eZ45a96PVsl5ZTRzSqObWpiyDBLp71LNtB9FSn4U4btEX2GLVzMNyME1IcVU89rP1dHAER8aulQ42F_bnO421 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Pencils, books, laptops, those are the tools of students and what you expect to find on a college campus. But here’s what the NYPD found in Hamilton Hall at Columbia University after we were able to arrest the protestors and agitators for commandeering and barricading themselves inside the building. Gas masks, ear plugs, helmets, goggles, tape, hammers, knives, ropes, and a book on TERRORISM. These are not the tools of students protesting, these are the tools of agitators, of people who were working on something nefarious. Thankfully, your NYPD was able to prevent whatever they were planning and stop them before they could do it. Continue to peacefully and lawfully protest; but know that if you engage in illegal conduct, the NYPD will hold you responsible and hold you accountable—someone has to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/2/2024 at 3:30 PM, Nick Carter icp said: Do you oppose the politics of Sudan ? Do you oppose any other Countries politics, or is it just Israel whom you oppose ? Are those the topics of discussion? Are they even plastered all over the news no matter which channel you switch on? The war in Gaza is the dominant international news story, of course people are discussing that war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 It might be a good idea to look at who these people are and who’s funding their activities: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/campus-protests-live-updates-police-ucla-encampment-rcna150340 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Are those the topics of discussion? Are they even plastered all over the news no matter which channel you switch on? The war in Gaza is the dominant international news story, of course people are discussing that war. That was my point . Why is that that the subject of Israel is so popular amongst people ? Why is absolutely no one concerned about the Yemen war , but everyone seems to be so concerned about the Gaza war ? *80 000 Yemani children have starved to death * "Really, when did that happened , Never mind about that FREE Palestine " "GENOCIDE in Gaza" "Who cares about Yeman" My best friends a Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Meanwhile back to the topic Pro-Palestine campus group behind Columbia University protests received over $3million a year in funding from 'charities' linked to Hamas The 73-page report, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com, also pointed out explicit pro-Hamas statements, chants and placards by protesters, and asserted that the demonstration has crossed the line from criticism of the Israeli government to bald-faced antisemitism. The report also called for a law enforcement and government investigation into SJP. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13363943/Pro-Palestine-group-Columbia-University-protests-funding-linked-Hamas.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: That was my point . Why is that that the subject of Israel is so popular amongst people ? Why is absolutely no one concerned about the Yemen war , but everyone seems to be so concerned about the Gaza war ? *80 000 Yemani children have starved to death * "Really, when did that happened , Never mind about that FREE Palestine " "GENOCIDE in Gaza" "Who cares about Yeman" My best friends a Jew Because over 40,000 people have been slaughtered, and because the US, UK and western democracies are funding the continuing war. Just like there were mass demonstrations when these same nations were making war in Iraq. A core demand of the protestors and those who protest the ongoing ‘carnage’ is for their own Government to stop funding the war, stop sending arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 30 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Pencils, books, laptops, those are the tools of students and what you expect to find on a college campus. But here’s what the NYPD found in Hamilton Hall at Columbia University after we were able to arrest the protestors and agitators for commandeering and barricading themselves inside the building. Gas masks, ear plugs, helmets, goggles, tape, hammers, knives, ropes, and a book on TERRORISM. These are not the tools of students protesting, these are the tools of agitators, of people who were working on something nefarious. Thankfully, your NYPD was able to prevent whatever they were planning and stop them before they could do it. Continue to peacefully and lawfully protest; but know that if you engage in illegal conduct, the NYPD will hold you responsible and hold you accountable—someone has to. A large percentage of those arrested by NYPD had no affiliation with the colleges/universities. Maybe that needs investigating before going off on rants about colleges and students. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: A large percentage of those arrested by NYPD had no affiliation with the colleges/universities. Maybe that needs investigating before going off on rants about colleges and students. They are investigating, you think they don't know that, read my links What did emerge is a vast network that includes left-leaning, billion-dollar American philanthropies and collaboration with at least one foreign organization that Germany and Israel have banned for allegedly working with or supporting Hamas and another terrorist group. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/s-palestinian-protests-us-rcna143666 Edited May 5 by Bkk Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: They are investigating, you think they don't know that, read my links What did emerge is a vast network that includes left-leaning, billion-dollar American philanthropies and collaboration with at least one foreign organization that Germany and Israel have banned for allegedly working with or supporting Hamas and another terrorist group. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/s-palestinian-protests-us-rcna143666 Your link makes no mention of the people arrested who are not affiliated with the colleges/universities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Your link makes no mention of the people arrested who are not affiliated with the colleges/universities. And what? "The group behind pro-Palestine student protests at Columbia received 'over $3 million a year' – and is linked to organizations accused of funding terrorist organization Hamas, a new think tank has revealed." Edited May 5 by Bkk Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Because over 40,000 people have been slaughtered Its 35 000 and half of those killed have been members of a terror group 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Its 35 000 and half of those killed have been members of a terror group Link to credible evidence that half of those killed have been members of terrorist groups? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Because over 40,000 people have been slaughtered, and because the US, UK and western democracies are funding the continuing war. Just like there were mass demonstrations when these same nations were making war in Iraq. A core demand of the protestors and those who protest the ongoing ‘carnage’ is for their own Government to stop funding the war, stop sending arms. Link to credible evidence that 40,000 people have been slaughtered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/2/2024 at 6:46 AM, Roo Island said: Jeez. They've got much better things to focus on than this. Click bait and here i thought saying that was not permitted on this site. i guess it is ok now. lets try it out see how it goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: And what? "The group behind pro-Palestine student protests at Columbia received 'over $3 million a year' – and is linked to organizations accused of funding terrorist organization Hamas, a new think tank has revealed." Where did this quote come from Brian, it’s not in the OP and is not in the link you just posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Where did this quote come from Brian, it’s not in the OP and is not in the link you just posted? 28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: They are investigating, you think they don't know that, read my links What did emerge is a vast network that includes left-leaning, billion-dollar American philanthropies and collaboration with at least one foreign organization that Germany and Israel have banned for allegedly working with or supporting Hamas and another terrorist group. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/s-palestinian-protests-us-rcna143666 12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Meanwhile back to the topic Pro-Palestine campus group behind Columbia University protests received over $3million a year in funding from 'charities' linked to Hamas The 73-page report, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com, also pointed out explicit pro-Hamas statements, chants and placards by protesters, and asserted that the demonstration has crossed the line from criticism of the Israeli government to bald-faced antisemitism. The report also called for a law enforcement and government investigation into SJP. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13363943/Pro-Palestine-group-Columbia-University-protests-funding-linked-Hamas.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: So it’s the Daily Mail quoting ISGAP. It looks innuendo to me. Lots of ‘linked to’ ‘accused of’ but nothing more substantive from an organization ‘linked to’ the other side of the conflict. And still no news on who the large percentage of arrested people who are non-college associates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Perhaps if members of Congress are investigating the funding of universities and of those engaging in protests against the war in Gaza, their own sources of funding ought to be examined: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/10/congress-member-pro-israel-donations-military-support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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