placeholder Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 41 minutes ago, sidneybear said: It's cooling off a bit in Thailand now. Haven't you noticed? Quite balmy now. Hot seasons are, well, hot, bit they end when it starts raining. Happens every year around this time. No need to get your knickers in a twist about trying to change the weather. Without offering evidence and explanation you have previously accused me of not understanding. And yet here is proof that you don't understand the difference between climate and weather. I am happy to be able to offer this piece of assistance that should dispel your ignorance: "Climate is the long-term pattern of weather in a particular area. Weather can change from hour-to-hour, day-to-day, month-to-month or even year-to-year. A region's weather patterns, usually tracked for at least 30 years, are considered its climate." https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/all-about-climate/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 57 minutes ago, sidneybear said: ABC is an Australian mirror image of the BBC: A lefty outfit that is paid for by taxation and is supposed to be impartial. All it does is recite leftist nostrums like all this guff about changing the weather. People laugh at it. The article in question was about published research. If you have any proof that the article contain falsehoods, please share that with the rest of us. In other words, put up or... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, placeholder said: The article in question was about published research. If you have any proof that the article contain falsehoods, please share that with the rest of us. In other words, put up or... Since you're so fond of links, here is a list of 1,900 very clever and distinguished folks who think that the so-called "climate emergency" is a load of politicised codswallop... or are your links bigger than mine because yours feature academics who don’t live in the real world? https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ Climate pseudoscience is just a way of lining people's pockets and keeping the peasants poor, cold and immobile. Of course, you'll counter with more links of your own, because you lack the faculties to do your own analysis and question what you post. Edited May 9 by sidneybear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, sidneybear said: Since you're so fond of links, here is a list of 1,900 very clever and distinguished folks who think that the so-called "climate emergency" is a load of politicised codswallop... or are your links bigger than mine because yours feature academics who don’t live in the real world? https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ Climate pseudoscience is just a way of lining people's pockets and keeping the peasants poor, cold and immobile. Of course, you'll counter with more links of your own, because you lack the faculties to do your own analysis and question what you post. Once again, you get it wrong. This time you fell for a fake. (At the time this article was published the total number of signatories was 1609) Climate list claim melts away under closer inspection PolitiFact FL: Not all 1.6K signatories of declaration against climate change were scientists The updated version with 1,609 signatories, published Aug. 14, marked 12 people as deceased. Among the scientists, specialties included geology, chemistry, physics and agriculture. Those with climate expertise were few. The list included engineers, doctors, lawyers, mathematicians, architects, entrepreneurs, and economists. Others did not list any occupation at all. Some descriptions read: "Sceptical (sic) Scientific Contrarian in the Climate Debate" "Leadership development and coaching" "Physicist and YouTuber" "Sculptor, designer and innovator" https://www.wusf.org/environment/2023-10-11/politifact-fl-not-all-1-6k-signatories-declaration-against-climate-change-scientists WHAT WAS CLAIMED 1609 scientists have signed a declaration stating there is no climate emergency. OUR VERDICT False. The list of signatories includes lawyers, teachers, IT workers and relatively few climate scientists. https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/climate-list-claim-melts-away-under-closer-inspection/ Edited May 9 by placeholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 8 hours ago, placeholder said: Once again, you get it wrong. This time you fell for a fake. (At the time this article was published the total number of signatories was 1609) Climate list claim melts away under closer inspection PolitiFact FL: Not all 1.6K signatories of declaration against climate change were scientists The updated version with 1,609 signatories, published Aug. 14, marked 12 people as deceased. Among the scientists, specialties included geology, chemistry, physics and agriculture. Those with climate expertise were few. The list included engineers, doctors, lawyers, mathematicians, architects, entrepreneurs, and economists. Others did not list any occupation at all. Some descriptions read: "Sceptical (sic) Scientific Contrarian in the Climate Debate" "Leadership development and coaching" "Physicist and YouTuber" "Sculptor, designer and innovator" https://www.wusf.org/environment/2023-10-11/politifact-fl-not-all-1-6k-signatories-declaration-against-climate-change-scientists WHAT WAS CLAIMED 1609 scientists have signed a declaration stating there is no climate emergency. OUR VERDICT False. The list of signatories includes lawyers, teachers, IT workers and relatively few climate scientists. https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/climate-list-claim-melts-away-under-closer-inspection/ Follow the money trail to see that these phoney "fact checking" outfits are themselves fake. Politfact is funded by inter alia the Poynter Institute, and look at all the lefty outfits that fund them: https://www.poynter.org/major-funders/ Dig around a bit and you’ll see that Bill Gates is another contributor. All this climate hogwash is political or commercial. Haven't you realised it yet? Why are you so gullible? Now please provide me with your analysis on the storage problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 12 minutes ago, sidneybear said: Follow the money trail to see that these phoney "fact checking" outfits are themselves fake. Politfact is funded by inter alia the Poynter Institute, and look at all the lefty outfits that fund them: https://www.poynter.org/major-funders/ Dig around a bit and you’ll see that Bill Gates is another contributor. All this climate hogwash is political or commercial. Haven't you realised it yet? Why are you so gullible? Now please provide me with your analysis on the storage problem. Once again, rather than address the facts, you try to slur the source. The facts are clear, Not only are very very few of the signatories not climatologists, but a large number of them aren't even scientists. Once again, you've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 15 minutes ago, placeholder said: Once again, rather than address the facts, you try to slur the source. The facts are clear, Not only are very very few of the signatories not climatologists, but a large number of them aren't even scientists. Once again, you've got nothing. What is a "climatologist" exactly? Is it someone funded by the green industry who feeds phoney data into made up algorithms? Just like those covid "scientists" did, eh? Lots of people on the list are highly educated people covering a wide range of disciplines, including Nobel laureates, etcetera. Give me your analysis of the storage problem, or I'll start thinking you're a link posting bot. Googling links means you're bone idle, and unable to introduce your own analysis into the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 14 minutes ago, sidneybear said: What is a "climatologist" exactly? Is it someone funded by the green industry who feeds phoney data into made up algorithms? Just like those covid "scientists" did, eh? Lots of people on the list are highly educated people covering a wide range of disciplines, including Nobel laureates, etcetera. Give me your analysis of the storage problem, or I'll start thinking you're a link posting bot. Googling links means you're bone idle, and unable to introduce your own analysis into the debate. "What is a "climatologist" exactly? Is it someone funded by the green industry who feeds phoney data into made up algorithms?" More conspiracy claims from you. Who care how highly educated some of the people on that list are? If you had a health problem, would you go to a geologist for treatment? In your world, apparently, there is no such thing as expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 23 minutes ago, placeholder said: "What is a "climatologist" exactly? Is it someone funded by the green industry who feeds phoney data into made up algorithms?" More conspiracy claims from you. Who care how highly educated some of the people on that list are? If you had a health problem, would you go to a geologist for treatment? In your world, apparently, there is no such thing as expertise. And in your world, there's no such thing as analytical thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 22 minutes ago, sidneybear said: And in your world, there's no such thing as analytical thinking. I just offered an example that is a demonstration of analytic thinking. It dismantled the claim that because educated people had signed onto this document, that somehow supported its validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, placeholder said: I just offered an example that is a demonstration of analytic thinking. It dismantled the claim that because educated people had signed onto this document, that somehow supported its validity. It's a bit cooler today. Try not to worry about the weather so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, sidneybear said: It's a bit cooler today. Try not to worry about the weather so much. Another demonstration that you don't understand the difference between climate and weather. Even sharing with you a simple definition of "climate" apparently wasn't sufficient to dispel your confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 19 minutes ago, placeholder said: Another demonstration that you don't understand the difference between climate and weather. Even sharing with you a simple definition of "climate" apparently wasn't sufficient to dispel your confusion. Do you stay at home to minimise your carbon footprint, or do you fly around in carbon belching aircraft? You post here, so I'm guessing the latter, which means you aren't part of the solution to your imaginary problem, which in turn means you don't really believe in the so-called "climate emergency" yourself, preferring to lecture others. Stop fretting about the weather, and enjoy your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 49 minutes ago, sidneybear said: Do you stay at home to minimise your carbon footprint, or do you fly around in carbon belching aircraft? You post here, so I'm guessing the latter, which means you aren't part of the solution to your imaginary problem, which in turn means you don't really believe in the so-called "climate emergency" yourself, preferring to lecture others. Stop fretting about the weather, and enjoy your life. Making it personal is just another piece of evidence that you've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 18 minutes ago, placeholder said: Making it personal is just another piece of evidence that you've got nothing. Practice what you preach, or you've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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