TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 London (CNN) — AstraZeneca is withdrawing its highly successful coronavirus vaccine, citing the availability of a plethora of new shots that has led to a decline in demand. The vaccine — called Vaxzevria and developed in partnership with the University of Oxford — has been one of the main Covid-19 vaccines worldwide, with more than 3 billion doses supplied since the first was administered in the United Kingdom on January 4, 2021. ... In a notice on its website, the European Medicines Agency also announced the withdrawal, which means that Vaxzevria is no longer authorized to be marketed or sold in European Union countries. AstraZeneca said it would work with regulators in other countries to “align on a clear path forward,” including withdrawing marketing authorizations for the vaccine where no future commercial demand is expected. (more) https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/business/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-withdrawal/index.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 AstraZeneca withdraws Covid-19 vaccine worldwide, citing surplus of newer vaccines Pharmaceutical company says newer shots led to decline in demand for AstraZeneca vaccine, which is no longer being manufactured or supplied AstraZeneca has begun the worldwide withdrawal of its Covid-19 vaccine due to a “surplus of available updated vaccines” that target new variants of the virus. The announcement follows the pharmaceutical company in March voluntarily withdrawing its European Union marketing authorisation, which is the approval to market a medicine in member states. ... In a statement, AstraZeneca said the decision was made because there is now a variety of newer vaccines available that have been adapted to target Covid-19 variants. This had led to a decline in demand for the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is no longer being manufactured or supplied. “According to independent estimates, over 6.5 million lives were saved in the first year of use alone and over 3bn doses were supplied globally,” the statement said. (more) https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/08/astrazeneca-withdraws-covid-19-vaccine-worldwide-citing-surplus-of-newer-vaccines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 They need to come to Thailand as today in the news that Covid will raise because of the opening of the schools again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Red Phoenix Posted May 8 Popular Post Share Posted May 8 14 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: AstraZeneca is withdrawing its highly successful coronavirus vaccine ??? - success is not determined by the millions of people that were mandated to take the jab or else... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 This is one of the vaccines subsidized under the Trump administration's operation "Warp Speed", yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: This is one of the vaccines subsidized under the Trump administration's operation "Warp Speed", yes? Yes, AZ was supported by Warp Speed in the U.S. But the vaccine never received approval for use there. July 2020: "The vaccine candidate, currently in human trials, is one of the candidates funded and supported by the US Operation Warp Speed (OWS) programme." https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/emergent-astrazeneca-deal/ Edited May 8 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 As AZ in origins was a non profit effort the current commercial success of Pfizer has managed to financially bury competition in a market that has lost interest and yet is financially shakey. Where have the billions gone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 9 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: They need to come to Thailand as today in the news that Covid will raise because of the opening of the schools again COVID cases/hospitalizations in Thailand have been rising steadily for the past two months since mid-March. https://aseannow.com/topic/1326140-hospitalizations-climb-in-thailands-spring-2024-covid-surge/?do=findComment&comment=18893219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 57 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: COVID cases/hospitalizations in Thailand have been rising steadily for the past two months since mid-March. https://aseannow.com/topic/1326140-hospitalizations-climb-in-thailands-spring-2024-covid-surge/?do=findComment&comment=18893219 it's good that deaths have basically flatlined then. 12 from covid in a month is peanuts compared to what it was before. it is also irrelevant in thai death stats now as there are far greater chances of dying from so many other things in life and in thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) 12 minutes ago, stoner said: it's good that deaths have basically flatlined then. 12 from covid in a month is peanuts compared to what it was before. it is also irrelevant in thai death stats now as there are far greater chances of dying from so many other things in life and in thailand. As usual, you selectively chose to ignore other important details of the same report, as sourced in the link posted above: "The Ministry of Public Health also reported the total number of current COVID hospitalizations rated in serious condition climbed to 501, a 28% increase over the prior week and a tally that appears to be Thailand's highest in almost a year and a half. The number of currently hospitalized COVID patients requiring intubation / ventilation to breathe also rose to 187, up 26% from the prior week, and the highest number in that category since mid-June 2023." And actually, no, official COVID deaths in Thailand haven't "flatlined". The 12 reported for the most recent week was the highest weekly number since July 2023. At the beginning of 2024, the weekly COVID deaths count reported here were running 7-8 per week. Edited May 8 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted May 8 Popular Post Share Posted May 8 Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said: As usual, you selectively chose to ignore other important details of the same report: "The Ministry of Public Health also reported the total number of current COVID hospitalizations rated in serious condition climbed to 501, a 28% increase over the prior week and a tally that appears to be Thailand's highest in almost a year and a half. The number of currently hospitalized COVID patients requiring intubation / ventilation to breathe also rose to 187, up 26% from the prior week, and the highest number in that category since mid-June 2023." no i didn't. very few people are dying that is the most important part that you selectively chose to ignore while constantly posting covid topics over and over. 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post peter zwart Posted May 8 Popular Post Share Posted May 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: According to independent estimates, over 6.5 million lives were saved BS, men will never know. Why??? Because you dont know and can not know what would have happened if all those people did not took the jab. Edited May 8 by peter zwart 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 12 minutes ago, peter zwart said: BS, men will never know. Why??? Because you dont know and can not know what would have happened if all those people did not took the jab. There have been a lot of different studies done by a lot of different researchers around the world on the impact of COVID vaccines during the pandemic, and they all have come to the same/similar conclusions: COVID vaccines saved 20M lives in 1st year, scientists say https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-england-54d29ae3af5c700f15d704c14ee224b5 Report: COVID-19 vaccines saved US $1.15 trillion, 3 million lives https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-covid-19-vaccines-saved-us-115-trillion-3-million-lives COVID-19 vaccinations have saved more than 1.4 million lives in the WHO European Region, a new study finds https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/16-01-2024-covid-19-vaccinations-have-saved-more-than-1.4-million-lives-in-the-who-european-region--a-new-study-finds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBike09 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Report: COVID-19 vaccines saved US $1.15 trillion, 3 million lives https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-covid-19-vaccines-saved-us-115-trillion-3-million-lives The economic toll of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S. will reach $14 trillion by the end of 2023, our team of economists, public policy researchers and other experts have estimated. https://fortune.com/well/2023/05/16/how-much-did-covid-19-pandemic-coronavirus-cost-economy-14-trillion/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said: The economic toll of the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S. will reach $14 trillion by the end of 2023, our team of economists, public policy researchers and other experts have estimated. https://fortune.com/well/2023/05/16/how-much-did-covid-19-pandemic-coronavirus-cost-economy-14-trillion/ Yes, they looked at traditional economic measurements, but didn't cover all the involved factors/costs: "Putting a price tag on all the pain, suffering and upheaval Americans and people around the world have experienced because of COVID-19 is, of course, hard to do. More than 1.1 million people have died as a result of COVID-19 in the U.S., and many more have been hospitalized or lost loved ones. ... What is not known We modeled only the pandemic’s standard economic effects. We didn’t estimate the vast array of economic costs tied to COVID-19, such as lost years of work after an early death or a severe case of long-COVID-19. We also didn’t assess the costs due to the many ways that the disease has affected the physical and mental health of the U.S. population or the learning loss experienced by students." And the bottom line is -- the more people who were vaccinated, the fewer COVID deaths that occurred, and that lessened the costs to society in a multitude of ways. Edited May 8 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted May 8 Popular Post Share Posted May 8 8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: We also didn’t assess the costs due to the many ways that the disease has affected the physical and mental health of the U.S. population in particular the young children. who we kept home and totally stunted their growth among other things. this is the group who were least susceptible and have now been hit the hardest. they will pay for a lifetime of bad policy and decision making. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 7 minutes ago, stoner said: in particular the young children. who we kept home and totally stunted their growth among other things. this is the group who were least susceptible and have now been hit the hardest. the group that was hit the hardest was the 7 million who officially died from COVID, with the real figure likely to be several times that high into the high 20 millions. There's no recovering once you're dead. https://archive.ph/qaYDw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted May 8 Popular Post Share Posted May 8 14 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: the group that was hit the hardest was the 7 million who officially died from COVID, with the real figure likely to be several times that high into the high 20 millions. There's no recovering once you're dead. https://archive.ph/qaYDw ok john. and how about the millions of kids that would of been asymptomatic and they never even knew they had covid ? covid is a nothing burger now. the world clearly doesn't care about it anymore. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: the group that was hit the hardest was the 7 million who officially died from COVID, with the real figure likely to be several times that high into the high 20 millions. There's no recovering once you're dead. https://archive.ph/qaYDw also of note even using the 3x numbers of 20 million dead. covid killed a total of .0025 % of the human population. 150k humans die every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 Things have been getting better, particularly when it comes to COVID deaths. But hardly done yet. Per the U.S. CDC: "The decline in deaths associated with COVID-19 is even more dramatic than the drop in hospitalizations. In 2021, over 450,000 deaths among Americans were associated with COVID-19, while in 2023, that number fell to roughly 75,000. This represents an 83% decrease since early in the pandemic. That said, the number of COVID-19-related deaths is still substantial, impacting families across the country. Based on preliminary data, COVID-19 still ranks as the 10th most common cause of death in the U.S. for 2023, a drop from 3rd in 2020 and 2021 and 4th in 2022. [emphasis added]" https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/changing-threat-covid-19.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BKKBike09 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Things have been getting better, particularly when it comes to COVID deaths. But hardly done yet. Per the U.S. CDC: "The decline in deaths associated with COVID-19 is even more dramatic than the drop in hospitalizations. In 2021, over 450,000 deaths among Americans were associated with COVID-19, while in 2023, that number fell to roughly 75,000. This represents an 83% decrease since early in the pandemic. That said, the number of COVID-19-related deaths is still substantial, impacting families across the country. Based on preliminary data, COVID-19 still ranks as the 10th most common cause of death in the U.S. for 2023, a drop from 3rd in 2020 and 2021 and 4th in 2022. [emphasis added]" https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/changing-threat-covid-19.html You might also choose to include from that same CDC assessment: "During the first seven months of 2023, adults 65 years and older accounted for 63% of hospitalizations and 88% of in-hospital deaths from COVID-19. Of this group, 90% of those hospitalized had multiple pre-existing medical conditions." [emphasis added] https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/changing-threat-covid-19.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBruv Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 They wouldn't lie would they? Narrative is constantly updated to respond to what's witnessed by real people in the real world. The Times, March 2021 that hailed the AstraZeneca vaccine as 100% effective. Note the article highlighted bottom right ....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBruv Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 18 hours ago, stoner said: it's good that deaths have basically flatlined then. 12 from covid in a month is peanuts compared to what it was before. it is also irrelevant in thai death stats now as there are far greater chances of dying from so many other things in life and in thailand. Couldn't find the stats but the chances are probably a bit worse than being struck by lightening = Stay indoors & avoid open spaces wherever possible https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2023/04/24/lightning-killed-2-teenagers-near-a-national-kite-field/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, BigBruv said: Couldn't find the stats but the chances are probably a bit worse than being struck by lightening = Stay indoors & avoid open spaces wherever possible https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2023/04/24/lightning-killed-2-teenagers-near-a-national-kite-field/ I don't think lightning strikes, or whatever other irrelevancies you may produce, are quite in the same league: "Cumulative figures since the start of the current year are COVID new hospitalizations (13,057) & COVID deaths (93)." --501 current COVID patients hospitalized in serious condition (pneumonia symptoms), up 111 / 28.5% from the prior week (dark purple) https://aseannow.com/topic/1311049-weekly-thai-ministry-of-public-health-covid-reports/?do=findComment&comment=18893197 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 33 minutes ago, BigBruv said: They wouldn't lie would they? Narrative is constantly updated to respond to what's witnessed by real people in the real world. The Times, March 2021 that hailed the AstraZeneca vaccine as 100% effective. Note the article highlighted bottom right ....... They told people what they wanted to hear. It’s exactly like if you ask a thai street food vendor if her food is arroy. She’s a business person of course we know the answer. It’s 100% arroy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: I don't think lightning strikes, or whatever other irrelevancies you may produce, are quite in the same league: "Cumulative figures since the start of the current year are COVID new hospitalizations (13,057) & COVID deaths (93)." --501 current COVID patients hospitalized in serious condition (pneumonia symptoms), up 111 / 28.5% from the prior week (dark purple) https://aseannow.com/topic/1311049-weekly-thai-ministry-of-public-health-covid-reports/?do=findComment&comment=18893197 what percentage of the thai population that died from covid vs the total amount of thai who got covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Most people that die of covid are very old. A death is not equal to a death. The real damning part about this story is even if we take this manufacturer at its word, which is a dubious prospect, they have a product people don’t want? What does that say about it? I thought it was supposed to be saving all these lives. People break down doors to get to life saving medications. They don’t turn them down for free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 Average Covid-19 victim dies years before they otherwise would The idea that people who die of Covid have lived longer than average fails to appreciate these are the very people who would have been expected to live much longer. As we have written before, people dying of Covid lose about a decade of life, on average. ... An 82-year-old man can expect to live for another 7.4 years on average, while an 85-year-old woman can expect to live another 6.87 years on average. https://fullfact.org/news/boris-johnson-whatsapp-covid-life-expectancy-cummings/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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