Bad News For Weed Shops: Potent Cannabis Poses Mental Health Risks

[Accidental Tourist]

Scrolling over the comments... seems there a lot of weed smokers on this board. Cannabis was and is a drug that should be sensitive control,as the regular public is not educated of the use. Seeing young kinds smoking marijuana at the age of 10 and below, shows it all...is all money making and a free ride on drugs

[stoner]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

42 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

Read it properly. “disillusioned farmers who have witnessed a dramatic decline in profits since the liberalization of cannabis in 2022.” the operative word is “since”. 

"'since" Since the liberalisation of the law. Between then and now and not before. So yes the "opperative word" as you say is since. Since the liberalisation of the law (when the law was liberalised) farmers profits have reduced or initially the small number of farmers cultivating saw good profits but as the number of cultivators rapidly increased those farmers saw their profits reduced. As I said this would be because more dope was being cultivated, more on the market, market prices dropped and profit margins were reduced. I believe I did read it properly thank you and I also know what since means

 

If its any help a friend told me he could get a kilo brick before legal for 5k or less.

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, Accidental Tourist said:

Scrolling over the comments... seems there a lot of weed smokers on this board. Cannabis was and is a drug that should be sensitive control,as the regular public is not educated of the use. Seeing young kinds smoking marijuana at the age of 10 and below, shows it all...is all money making and a free ride on drugs

 

I personally know dozens of 8 year old pot heads. 

[Sydebolle]

Smoke screen - no pun intended. Wondering what the real script is behind Anutin's pushing FOR the weed and the RETRACTION once Anutin moved from health to interior ministry. Interesting script which I have not completely deciphered yet. Retaliation of any kind by the puppet master? 

[daveAustin]

Any ruling on this, even if there are detrimental effects, would not make a blind bit of difference since people will still smoke it. It is just big brother bs and national face at play. 

[Ebumbu]

21 hours ago, Purdey said:

On the other hand, many "soft power" icons abroad toked and yet still remained more creative than most Thais. Maybe Thailand should look at creating rather than destroying. Man.

Carl Sagan
Snoop Dogg
Bob Dylan
Bill Gates
Michael Phelps
Bob Marley
Miley Cyrus
Brad Pitt
The Beatles
Robert Mitchum
Steve Jobs
Willie Nelson
Kevin Smith

 

 

If not for cannabis, there would be no jazz. 

“Vic and I were blasting this joint – having lots of laughs and feeling good, enjoying each other’s company. Just then two big healthy dicks [detectives] came from behind a car nonchalantly and said to us, ‘We’ll take the roach, boys.’”

Detectives confided in Armstrong that the arrest was prompted by a bandleader who was jealous of Satchmo’s natural talent and called a “stool pigeon” on him. Luckily, the detectives were fans of Armstrong’s music, and although he spent nine days in the Downtown Los Angeles City Jail, his jaunt to jail only proved to cement his love of the plant. That’s one reason why we appreciated pot, as y’all calls it now. The warmth it always brought forth from the other person – especially the ones that lit up a good stick of that ‘shuzzit’ or gage, nice names.”

— Louis Armstrong (Satchmo) 

Source: https://www.leafly.com/news/lifestyle/louis-armstrong-and-cannabis#

Edited May 15 by Ebumbu

[bristolgeoff]

germany is allowing it every country relaxing the law.Thailand done a good thing and  now reverse the whole law and weed shop  selling.If you want to smoke and buy it they was never a problem.They still have the silly law don,t sell alcohol in the afternoon that is more stupid.The mum and pop shop will sell it no problem and people know that too.I wonder the real reason why they change it

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, Accidental Tourist said:

Scrolling over the comments... seems there a lot of weed smokers on this board. Cannabis was and is a drug that should be sensitive control,as the regular public is not educated of the use. Seeing young kinds smoking marijuana at the age of 10 and below, shows it all...is all money making and a free ride on drugs

And exactly where have you seen ten year old kids smoking weed?   Was it a staged for the media photo opportunity?   Or are you seriously trying to tell us you have actually witnessed this in real life?  If that was the case did you fulfil your civic duty and inform the authorities ?  How much money do you think the 10 year olds bring to th table?    Ridiculous comment

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, stoner said:

 

I personally know dozens of 8 year old pot heads. 

I know the same kids too, most of them drink around 8 large chang per night too when they are out on the lash

[riclag]

I ‘ve done it all except for Ice (meth).

I quit everything except for alcohol.

Last time I did a mind altering  drug was pot in 2004 !

It was very very powerful ! 

I didn’t like the feeling of paranoia I was getting!

 Its much safer & comforting to be high on life than mind altering substances.

  Thailand is doing the right thing in protecting the children (Minds of mush ).

 

[brfsa2]

Society now a days is so fkd up, with so many abandoned and neglected children, bad schools and bad education system, all the raping in the Thai TV dramas, Canabis is a least the minor issue I would say...

They just want to take away our only form of escape and recreational without paying taxes on it. They cannot tax cannabis and they failed to get rich, so they want to take it back. Not to mention the big revenue loss to the police, they must be desperate. 

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

I ‘ve done it all except for Ice (meth).

I quit everything except for alcohol.

Last time I did a mind altering  drug was pot in 2004 !

It was very very powerful ! 

I didn’t like the feeling of paranoia I was getting!

 Its much safer & comforting to be high on life than mind altering substances.

  Thailand is doing the right thing in protecting the children (Minds of mush ).

 

The old you too can enjoy yourself at a party with everyone drinking etc when you're cold stone sober. Everyone knows this is complete BS. Protect the children? Well this is just more BS. Protect the children from what exactly? Legal drugs or illegal drugs. It's all out there and readilly available legal or not. Making something illegal changes nothing except what was once legal is now illegal. 

[dinsdale]

5 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Any ruling on this, even if there are detrimental effects, would not make a blind bit of difference since people will still smoke it. It is just big brother bs and national face at play. 

It's Thaksin at play.

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

I ‘ve done it all except for Ice (meth).

I quit everything except for alcohol.

Last time I did a mind altering  drug was pot in 2004 !

It was very very powerful ! 

I didn’t like the feeling of paranoia I was getting!

 Its much safer & comforting to be high on life than mind altering substances.

  Thailand is doing the right thing in protecting the children (Minds of mush ).

 

The regulations specifically forbid selling it to children, were you not aware of that.?    The regulations for alcohol are the same, It's forbidden to sell it to kids . but available to adults.  What possible argument is there for allowing adults to consume alcohol but forbidding them  from consuming cannabis, ? 

[riclag]

29 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

The regulations specifically forbid selling it to children, were you not aware of that.?    The regulations for alcohol are the same, It's forbidden to sell it to kids . but available to adults.  What possible argument is there for allowing adults to consume alcohol but forbidding them  from consuming cannabis, ? 

They obviously know kids can get the mind altering substances without effort.

So better to exclude it all together!

Easier to enforce me thinks.

[Bday Prang]

53 minutes ago, riclag said:

They obviously know kids can get the mind altering substances without effort.

So better to exclude it all together!

Easier to enforce me thinks.

So why is an alcohol ban not already in effect, its been around long enough for the damage it causes to be well documented, and its is sold to adults in sufficient quantities and strengths to actually kill a child. Surely you agree its a no brainer ? 

[kwilco]

On 5/14/2024 at 11:34 AM, kwilco said:

totally invalid anecdotal nonsense. I disagree with making cannabis illegal but I wouldn't resort to arguments as stupid as that. Maybe you were stoned at the time?

THe problem with the debate about cannabis is that both those "for" and "against" are so intellectually stunted as to render any discussion pointless.

 

QED! (See the emojis)

Edited May 15 by kwilco

[kwilco]

6 hours ago, riclag said:

I ‘ve done it all except for Ice (meth).

I quit everything except for alcohol.

Last time I did a mind altering  drug was pot in 2004 !

It was very very powerful ! 

I didn’t like the feeling of paranoia I was getting!

 Its much safer & comforting to be high on life than mind altering substances.

  Thailand is doing the right thing in protecting the children (Minds of mush ).

 

So you are holding yourself up as a typical example?

Firstly it shows that anyone who wants it can get it even if it is "banned" or "illegal"

Secondly it shows that you don't get addicted

And somehow it turns "children's'" minds to mush but not yours.

But I see no reason in your post to make it illegal again. (just because you don't like it is really not sufficient reason)

[isandrew]

If the country wants to make it illegal fair enough thats down to them, its just wild to think you get the same punishment for a bit of weed as you would a class A (hard drug) people will be getting locked up for 10+ years for weed is.....

[sumaterani]

Bad old news for delusional haters, cannabis has went through 3 clinical trial as it performs therapeutic effects to help cure: ANXIETY DISORDER, BIPOLAR DISORDER, PTSD and probably Schizophrenia too

 

NCBI mental health journal

 

Cannabidiol by Harvard MD (Summary below)

 

'The evidence for cannabidiol health benefits.'

CBD has been touted for a wide variety of health issues, but the strongest scientific evidence is for its effectiveness in treating some of the cruelest childhood epilepsy syndromes, such as Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which typically don't respond well to antiseizure medications. In numerous studies, CBD was able to reduce the number of seizures, and, in some cases, stop them altogether. Epidiolex, which primarily consists of CBD, is the first cannabis-derived medicine approved by the FDA for these conditions.

 

Animal studies, and self-reports or research in humans, suggest CBD may also help with:

 

Anxiety: Studies and clinical trials are exploring the common report that CBD can reduce anxiety.

 

Insomnia: Studies suggest that CBD may help with both falling asleep and staying asleep, in part by helping address chronic pain and anxiety.

 

Chronic pain: Increasingly, human studies are substantiating the claims that CBD helps control pain. One animal study from the European Journal of Pain suggests CBD could help lower pain and inflammation due to arthritis when applied to skin. Other research identifies how CBD may inhibit inflammatory and neuropathic pain, which are difficult to treat.

 

Addiction: CBD can help lower cravings for tobacco and heroin under certain conditions, according to some research in humans. Animal models of addiction suggest it may also help lessen cravings for other addictive substances such as alcohol, cannabis, opiates, and stimulants.

 

Outside of the US, the prescription drug Sativex, which uses CBD as an active ingredient, is approved for muscle spasticity associated with multiple sclerosis and for cancer pain. Within the US, Epidiolex is approved for certain types of epilepsy and tuberous sclerosis.

 

[Dr. Peter Grinspoon, MD; is a primary care physician, educator, and cannabis specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital; an instructor at Harvard Medical School; and a certified health and wellness coach.]

 

 

Edited May 15 by sumaterani

[sumaterani]

On 5/14/2024 at 10:29 AM, smedly said:

the last people to know they are psychotic are people suffering from psychosis

 

Also, usually the last people to know they are smelly are people with bad smell

 

I would suggest to try France Cannabis fragrance, it's on the shell

[AustinRacing]

12 hours ago, stoner said:

 

If its any help a friend told me he could get a kilo brick before legal for 5k or less.

There you go. So farmers can’t complain to government if what they were doing was illegal. 

[kwilco]

1 hour ago, sumaterani said:

Bad old news for delusional haters, cannabis has went through 3 clinical trial as it performs therapeutic effects to help cure: ANXIETY DISORDER, BIPOLAR DISORDER, PTSD and probably Schizophrenia too

 

NCBI mental health journal

 

Cannabidiol by Harvard MD (Summary below)

 

'The evidence for cannabidiol health benefits.'

CBD has been touted for a wide variety of health issues, but the strongest scientific evidence is for its effectiveness in treating some of the cruelest childhood epilepsy syndromes, such as Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which typically don't respond well to antiseizure medications. In numerous studies, CBD was able to reduce the number of seizures, and, in some cases, stop them altogether. Epidiolex, which primarily consists of CBD, is the first cannabis-derived medicine approved by the FDA for these conditions.

 

Animal studies, and self-reports or research in humans, suggest CBD may also help with:

 

Anxiety: Studies and clinical trials are exploring the common report that CBD can reduce anxiety.

 

Insomnia: Studies suggest that CBD may help with both falling asleep and staying asleep, in part by helping address chronic pain and anxiety.

 

Chronic pain: Increasingly, human studies are substantiating the claims that CBD helps control pain. One animal study from the European Journal of Pain suggests CBD could help lower pain and inflammation due to arthritis when applied to skin. Other research identifies how CBD may inhibit inflammatory and neuropathic pain, which are difficult to treat.

 

Addiction: CBD can help lower cravings for tobacco and heroin under certain conditions, according to some research in humans. Animal models of addiction suggest it may also help lessen cravings for other addictive substances such as alcohol, cannabis, opiates, and stimulants.

 

Outside of the US, the prescription drug Sativex, which uses CBD as an active ingredient, is approved for muscle spasticity associated with multiple sclerosis and for cancer pain. Within the US, Epidiolex is approved for certain types of epilepsy and tuberous sclerosis.

 

[Dr. Peter Grinspoon, MD; is a primary care physician, educator, and cannabis specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital; an instructor at Harvard Medical School; and a certified health and wellness coach.]

 

 

 

It\s pathetic, but those who want to make cannabis legal for recreational use waste a lot of time spouting on about its "medical" properties - the truth is they are clutching at straws. THere have been a few papers making upbeat claims but as yet nothing is proven and the key factor is that even less show cannabis to be more effective than other drugs.

[sumaterani]

2 minutes ago, kwilco said:

 

It\s pathetic, but those who want to make cannabis legal for recreational use waste a lot of time spouting on about its "medical" properties - the truth is they are clutching at straws. THere have been a few papers making upbeat claims but as yet nothing is proven and the key factor is that even less show cannabis to be more effective than other drugs.

The true knowledge is never a waste, beware of false knowledge as you spouted 'few' false claim just because the big pharmas don't like competitors so they put money into hating a happy plant.

 

Don't you think recreation is good for body and mind health? Is there hypocrisy down some people so anti-recreational, why? 

[isandrew]

2 minutes ago, kwilco said:

 

It\s pathetic, but those who want to make cannabis legal for recreational use waste a lot of time spouting on about its "medical" properties - the truth is they are clutching at straws. THere have been a few papers making upbeat claims but as yet nothing is proven and the key factor is that even less show cannabis to be more effective than other drugs.

 

Everyone has their poison, some people drinking, some people smoking, some gambling, I use to smoke cigs and never been a drinker but I guess what frustrates people who want the recreational side is the fact they're told is okay to consume alcohol but not weed. When in reality they both come with issues but there's no way on earth you can say alcohol is better for you or not as bad as "weed" 1 may cause certain people to get long term mental health issues but the other causes short term behavior issues and damage to your liver😅 to put it into prospective an alcoholic can die coming straight off the ale but a hippy isn't going die going cold turkey. Probably a few sweats and couple crazy dreams haha

 

I've said it before I hope they find a middle ground and I sit in the middle I can see both sides. 

[kiwikeith]

On 5/14/2024 at 3:08 PM, Moonlover said:

Anyone who has any doubts about the negative impact that cannabis might have on mental and physical health of users, especially the young, should read this article.

 

Cannabis legalization has led to a boom in potent forms of the drug that present new hazards for adolescents

The THC was never controlled, and children don't smoke it for medical reasons, children can't buy alcohol, yet children are smoking weed big time in los now, combination of both on the roads is deadly, Thailand has the worst road accident rate, it's never been about weed for health it's weed greed 

[RocketDog]

I'm back in the states in Colorado to sell my house. So I went to a local shop and bought some 28% THC. 

I got to admit that stuff knocked me on my ass. And I really can't take more than a hit or two.

I don't think daily use of that kind of stuff would do me any good at all.

YMMV

[kwilco]

34 minutes ago, sumaterani said:

The true knowledge is never a waste, beware of false knowledge as you spouted 'few' false claim just because the big pharmas don't like competitors so they put money into hating a happy plant.

 

Don't you think recreation is good for body and mind health? Is there hypocrisy down some people so anti-recreational, why? 

Typical rubbish conspiracy theory response....its sad that people with no knowledge think they have some, but how would they know?

[isandrew]

5 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

The THC was never controlled, and children don't smoke it for medical reasons, children can't buy alcohol, yet children are smoking weed big time in los now, combination of both on the roads is deadly, Thailand has the worst road accident rate, it's never been about weed for health it's weed greed 

 

Both things you mentioned you need to be 20+ to buy so how are children not buying alcohol but buying weed? id say the kratom with the syrup is a serious problem with youngsters right now 

[kwilco]

32 minutes ago, isandrew said:

 

Everyone has their poison, some people drinking, some people smoking, some gambling, I use to smoke cigs and never been a drinker but I guess what frustrates people who want the recreational side is the fact they're told is okay to consume alcohol but not weed. When in reality they both come with issues but there's no way on earth you can say alcohol is better for you or not as bad as "weed" 1 may cause certain people to get long term mental health issues but the other causes short term behavior issues and damage to your liver😅 to put it into prospective an alcoholic can die coming straight off the ale but a hippy isn't going die going cold turkey. Probably a few sweats and couple crazy dreams haha

 

I've said it before I hope they find a middle ground and I sit in the middle I can see both sides. 

Don't really see how that relates to my post.

I think people waste time talking about the chemical effects of cannabis, they should be debating how it affects society if legal when compared to illegal.