Trump Demands Drug Test for Biden Ahead of First Debate

[rudi49jr]

11 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And Biden is using the issue to benefit him in the election. 

And who killed the bi-partisan border bill to benefit him in the election?

[charleskerins]

11 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And Biden is using the issue to benefit him in the election. 

 

Biden opened the border and has allowed about ten million illegals into the country. You and other leftists that  support that, should vote for Biden. 

 

Anyone that does not support allowing illegals to flood across the border should vote for Trump. 

 

 

 

Anyone that supports American Democracy should vote for Biden 

Anyone that supports sedition ,corruption  and insurrection should not vote.

[candide]

6 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Anybody with a small amount of experience around people on drugs knows how to identify the symptoms. Look at Biden when he is normal. The eyes are barely open. I have lived in southern Laos around backpackers long enough to know what the look in the eyes is. A wonderful way to settle it would be for both candidates to be tested. What's there to be scared of? Why shouldn't the candidate for the president be tested as are any other potential employee of the federal government?

 

I can't run a forklift without being tested,

Which drug were these backpackers taking?

Edited:

Self reply: likely opioids such as opium or heroin (golden triangle), as Cocaine is not made in this region.

Opioid contract pupils, they can also cause drooping eyelids.

It's a completely different effect from stimulants which cause the pupils to get larger.

 

In summary, you are making it up and talking B.S.

Edited May 21 by candide

[candide]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Really? Trump's first year in office, 300,000 illegal crossings. Last year in office, 400,000. Biden last year- 2.2 million.

 

If not the military, then the National Guard.  Finish the wall. Install minefields and other barriers where needed. Send people back. Discourage crossings and discourage the cartels who are involved in virtually every illegal person getting across.

 

"Encourage" the other countries involved, from Colombia to Mexico, to cooperate. Offer aid if they play ball, sanctions if they don't. 

 

Deport when found. Charge employers who hire illegals when found. 

This time, you forgot to take Covid into account? 😉

In 2019 it was 851,000. So x3 compared to 2017.

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Yes by Maga Greg Abbott. Illegal human trafficking and a drain of $148 million of state tax. 

so its Abbotts fault for moving them, not Biden for them being there in the first place?

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Really? Trump's first year in office, 300,000 illegal crossings. Last year in office, 400,000. Biden last year- 2.2 million.

 

If not the military, then the National Guard.  Finish the wall. Install minefields and other barriers where needed. Send people back. Discourage crossings and discourage the cartels who are involved in virtually every illegal person getting across.

 

"Encourage" the other countries involved, from Colombia to Mexico, to cooperate. Offer aid if they play ball, sanctions if they don't. 

 

Deport when found. Charge employers who hire illegals when found. 

Military is not the solution and so you divert. Still wrong with the 2.2 million. Those are apprehensions which meant that Biden’s administration better policies, system and structure have reduced illegals. Apprehensions are up towards the 80% and above mark. Vast improvement comparing to the 33% in the 2000s. Other reasons are migrants rather turn themselves as asylum seekers rather than try to sneak in illegally. 
 

I agree with offering aids and cooperation with the source countries which the Biden administration is engaging and go after those who hire illegals. Maybe start with Mar-la-go 

[Eric Loh]

34 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so its Abbotts fault for moving them, not Biden for them being there in the first place?

Abbott is using the illegals as political props and pawns to made Biden look bad. 

[Hanaguma]

30 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Military is not the solution and so you divert. Still wrong with the 2.2 million. Those are apprehensions which meant that Biden’s administration better policies, system and structure have reduced illegals. Apprehensions are up towards the 80% and above mark. Vast improvement comparing to the 33% in the 2000s. Other reasons are migrants rather turn themselves as asylum seekers rather than try to sneak in illegally. 
 

I agree with offering aids and cooperation with the source countries which the Biden administration is engaging and go after those who hire illegals. Maybe start with Mar-la-go 

Apprehensions, sure. And then....are they kept in detention until the cases are heard? This is where everything breaks down.  Letting people go free in the country, providing hotels and food and health care and schooling...this is what draws people in.  Detain, evaluate, then enter or deport.  But immediately deport any who don't come through a port of entry.  

 

Start looking for illegal workers at Mar El Lago? Sure, why not.  Then check the rest of the country equally thoroughly. I think each member of Congress should be the ones to voluntarily submit their staff and anyone they hire for inspection. Lead by example and all that. 

[JCauto]

On 5/20/2024 at 8:46 AM, JCauto said:

So did you watch the State of the Union? That was a powerful speech and it lasted one hour and seven minutes! That sure is a long time to drag out two sentences. 

 

Here's the link so you can observe within seconds that he's got quite the ability to speechify. https://www.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2024/

 

As with the drug testing, every accusation is a confession with you people. You are seriously trying to make a cognitive impairment argument with the guy who bicycles around and gives polished hours-long speeches with detailed policy and nuanced understanding and the guy who wears diapers and falls asleep at his own trial and who STILL keeps referring to Barack Obama when he means his actual political opponent who beat him in the last election and who has been president these last four years. Why do you have to lie and state obvious mistruths? Just because your hero does it and you accept it doesn't mean that you can emulate him and have us slavering over your blatant untruths.

 

This was in response to Ultrathai's claim that "Biden is sick 😫 with dementia and can't put two sentences together.  Is that the idiot that you are talking about?" 

 

Check out this link in comparison - https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/trumps-35-second-long-freeze-during-speech-sparks-concerns-rebuke-netizens-debate-long-glitch-or-unfit-to-serve-101716200059982.html

 

Trump has a brain freeze that lasts 35 seconds! Now it's probably just that the teleprompter broke or the guy operating it fell asleep or something, but regardless, Trump couldn't ad-lib a word, just stood there staring and waiting for whatever he was supposed to say. Remember when he always claimed Obama would be lost without his teleprompter? 

Every accusation is a confession. Every. Single. One.

[rudi49jr]

It always cracks me up how certain posters here keep ragging on Biden for being senile, demented or on drugs, while their guy Trump is in fact the perfect example of someone suffering from rapid cognitive decline.

I will be the first to admit that Biden’s mental state is slipping somewhat at times, but I’m quite sure who will be holding the short end of the stick in the unlikely event of Biden and Trump both doing a cognitive test or some kind of psychiatric evaluation before their first debate. Hint: it’s not going to be the guy who’s currently in the White House.

[amexpat]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

 

If not the military, then the National Guard.

🤣🤣😂 

[Hanaguma]

20 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

It always cracks me up how certain posters here keep ragging on Biden for being senile, demented or on drugs, while their guy Trump is in fact the perfect example of someone suffering from rapid cognitive decline.

I will be the first to admit that Biden’s mental state is slipping somewhat at times, but I’m quite sure who will be holding the short end of the stick in the unlikely event of Biden and Trump both doing a cognitive test or some kind of psychiatric evaluation before their first debate. Hint: it’s not going to be the guy who’s currently in the White House.

You are probably right, neither are in their prime for sure.  That is why the VP picks for both are very very important. There is a substantial chance that the VP will be President some time before 2028.  At the moment, all we know is that it is Harris for the Dems, and God help the world if she ever gets power.  Remains to be seen who Trump picks. I'm hoping for someone reasonably sane, like Doug Burgum  or Tim Scott, but you never know.

[Eric Loh]

59 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Apprehensions, sure. And then....are they kept in detention until the cases are heard? This is where everything breaks down.  Letting people go free in the country, providing hotels and food and health care and schooling...this is what draws people in.  Detain, evaluate, then enter or deport.  But immediately deport any who don't come through a port of entry.  

 

Start looking for illegal workers at Mar El Lago? Sure, why not.  Then check the rest of the country equally thoroughly. I think each member of Congress should be the ones to voluntarily submit their staff and anyone they hire for inspection. Lead by example and all that. 

Illegals are temporarily house in hotels now and similarly housed in hotels under Trump's administration. Better control of them than allow them go free. They get basic food and laundry. Basic humanitarian welfare by any nations. Under federal laws, unqualified migrants do not get health care etc. They are processed accordingly for asylum application or work. Biden officials have deported 500,000 people back to Mexico and other countries since ending Title 42. 

[earlinclaifornia]

38 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You are probably right, neither are in their prime for sure.  That is why the VP picks for both are very very important. There is a substantial chance that the VP will be President some time before 2028.  At the moment, all we know is that it is Harris for the Dems, and God help the world if she ever gets power.  Remains to be seen who Trump picks. I'm hoping for someone reasonably sane, like Doug Burgum  or Tim Scott, but you never know.

So if you are wrong about Trump winning. I doubt his choosing a VP  has any impact 2028  

[Neeranam]

On 5/20/2024 at 3:30 AM, Social Media said:

Donald Trump has called for President Joe Biden to undergo a drug test before their first scheduled debate.

Classic, Biden obviously won't agree. 

[Hanaguma]

26 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Illegals are temporarily house in hotels now and similarly housed in hotels under Trump's administration. Better control of them than allow them go free. They get basic food and laundry. Basic humanitarian welfare by any nations. Under federal laws, unqualified migrants do not get health care etc. They are processed accordingly for asylum application or work. Biden officials have deported 500,000 people back to Mexico and other countries since ending Title 42. 

Why not detain them at the border?

[rudi49jr]

52 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Classic, Biden obviously won't agree. 

I’m betting he will if Trump is also tested. Why test just one candidate?

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

You are probably right, neither are in their prime for sure.  That is why the VP picks for both are very very important. There is a substantial chance that the VP will be President some time before 2028.  At the moment, all we know is that it is Harris for the Dems, and God help the world if she ever gets power.  Remains to be seen who Trump picks. I'm hoping for someone reasonably sane, like Doug Burgum  or Tim Scott, but you never know.

I wouldn’t call Tim Scott reasonably sane. He’s a deeply religious person and that alone disqualifies him for me. All those religious GOP members who take the Bible completely literally (like Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House) fill me with dread.
Scott, for instance, is 100% pro life and would vote for the most conservative and strict anti abortion law possible. He’s also in favor of cutting taxes, because ‘it empowers families to make decisions for themselves’. That’s a nice way of saying: ‘if you can’t hack it, you can just suck it and die’.

[Hanaguma]

6 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

I wouldn’t call Tim Scott reasonably sane. He’s a deeply religious person and that alone disqualifies him for me. All those religious GOP members who take the Bible completely literally (like Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House) fill me with dread.
Scott, for instance, is 100% pro life and would vote for the most conservative and strict anti abortion law possible. He’s also in favor of cutting taxes, because ‘it empowers families to make decisions for themselves’. That’s a nice way of saying: ‘if you can’t hack it, you can just suck it and die’.

Yeah, like so many Americans die of starvation...  in any case when he was campaigning he said that he wouldnt cut Medicare or Social Security.  Seems reasonable to make cuts in other areas. No reason for the federal government to consume nearly 25% of the GDP is there?

 

As for being religious, that makes a person thoughtful and moral in many cases. His position on abortion was a ban after the 20 week mark, which is in line with at least a large segment of the population. 

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Why not detain them at the border?

Maybe you can find in the bipartisan border security bill that funds will be deployed to increase border detention facilities and more legal resources to quicken the asylum process.  Go find out rather than keep asking trivial questions. 

[rudi49jr]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yeah, like so many Americans die of starvation...  in any case when he was campaigning he said that he wouldnt cut Medicare or Social Security.  Seems reasonable to make cuts in other areas. No reason for the federal government to consume nearly 25% of the GDP is there?

 

As for being religious, that makes a person thoughtful and moral in many cases. His position on abortion was a ban after the 20 week mark, which is in line with at least a large segment of the population. 

Being religious makes a person thoughtful and moral? I can agree with you to some extent, but religion in the US is often very hardcore and rightwing. Those dozens of millions of evangelicals, for example, scare the crap out of me. Almost all of them support Trump, who is not exactly a poster boy for morality, to put it very mildly. I wouldn’t call him thoughtful either. 

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Maybe you can find in the bipartisan border security bill that funds will be deployed to increase border detention facilities and more legal resources to quicken the asylum process.  Go find out rather than keep asking trivial questions. 

Yeah, the bill that didnt actually close the border. I remember it well. But it can start simply, without the pork of an omnibus bill.  Immediately deport anyone crossing at a location other than a designated crossing. Build camps.  

[Hanaguma]

34 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Being religious makes a person thoughtful and moral? I can agree with you to some extent, but religion in the US is often very hardcore and rightwing. Those dozens of millions of evangelicals, for example, scare the crap out of me. Almost all of them support Trump, who is not exactly a poster boy for morality, to put it very mildly. I wouldn’t call him thoughtful either. 

They support Trump for policy over faith. What, are they gonna vote for Biden, the so-called Catholic who loves abortion and trans women invading women's spaces?

 

Lots of good, religious people in the US who don't advertise their politics. They just do good for their communities.

[metisdead]

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[frank83628]

7 hours ago, candide said:

Which drug were these backpackers taking?

Edited:

Self reply: likely opioids such as opium or heroin (golden triangle), as Cocaine is not made in this region.

Opioid contract pupils, they can also cause drooping eyelids.

It's a completely different effect from stimulants which cause the pupils to get larger.

 

In summary, you are making it up and talking B.S.

and you dont have a clue either

[frank83628]

On 5/20/2024 at 7:15 PM, candide said:

Right, it's quite common for sports. What about Presidential debates? Is it common or is it just a way for Trump to back out? 😀

whats Biden got to hide? take the test, and Trumpo. job done!

lets have left & right media covering it so that nothing can be edited in either way.... i cannot see a problem with that. if biden is tip top and on form, he will prove himself, right?

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, transam said:

 

Why not try writing something sensible, for a change............🤭

rich coming from you

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

 

President Biden appeared to claim he was vice president during the coronavirus pandemic and that former President Barack Obama had dispatched him to Detroit to help with the response.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/biden-suggests-he-was-vice-president-during-covid-19-pandemic-barack-said-to-me-go-to-detroit/ar-BB1mJ4ec?ocid=BingNewsSerp

 

Ole joe is still sharp as a tack. Or.....is he?

i notice not one of his supporters here said a word on that....actually, did Joe say any actual incoherent words in that clip?

Edited May 21 by frank83628

[frank83628]

11 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

He meant recession and not pandemic. Gaff

 

What really scares me is watching Trump Freeze

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-posts-appear-show-213000357.html

oh, so joe can slip up and you excuse him, ok then, do you see how what you're saying there?

 

[frank83628]

8 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Obama set up the cages for unaccompanied migrant children. Trump zero migrant policies separate children from parents. That’s inhuman.

 

 Trump has left 4,000 children in cages for Biden. Biden administration is reconnecting the children and those who can’t be connected are being adopted. There are still unaccompanied migrant children and they are kept in facilities that provide health and service. This will be an ongoing problem and there should be bipartisan solutions. Trump is trying to make this an issue for personal political leverage. 

so how many children in cages did trump inherit from oBumma? there were not all cleared out when trump took office