Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: The article I linked provides numerous examples of Muslim leaders condemning Islamist terror groups and their violence. In the UK local elections we had Muslim councillors campaigning (and some winning) on a ticket of supporting Palestine. I don't recall any Muslim councillors campaigning to rid UK towns and cities of Islamic radicalisation, Islamic violence and hate preaching Imams. I think if more of them did that it could sway public opinion. Why don't they do that? I think I know why. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I at least don’t rely on personal attacks. It's not personal, most all you leftists do the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Your claim: I know you'd prefer that to go away but its not. Its a lie. Your other claim: Prove it. I’ve provided link to an article with ample evidence. Once again you resort to the inflammatory accusation of lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Welcome back. But wrong again. Just one of the links from the article I linked to: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/germany-muslims-islamic-state_n_5852342 Ooh sorry! One from Germany, and there's one from Belgium too! Wow. Most are from the USA and most are from 2014. None feature top muslim leaders loudly and openly condemning terror through national media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Again you resort to a baseless accusation of lying. You have not addressed anything the linked article said. Baselessly accusing others of lying is not discussion, it’s blatant baiting. I used to play bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: In the UK local elections we had Muslim councillors campaigning (and some winning) on a ticket of supporting Palestine. I don't recall any Muslim councillors campaigning to rid UK towns and cities of Islamic radicalisation, Islamic violence and hate preaching Imams. I think if more of them did that it could sway public opinion. Why don't they do that? I think I know why. You need to read a bit more about Muslims and Muslim leaders in the UK working to combat Islamists. https://mcb.org.uk/resources/muslims-against-terrorism/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, nauseus said: I used to play bass. That's deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: You need to read a bit more about Muslims and Muslim leaders in the UK working to combat Islamists. https://mcb.org.uk/resources/muslims-against-terrorism/ Why don't you tell us what it says that supports your claim? Oh, that's right, I forgot, you don't actually read anything... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 5 minutes ago, nauseus said: Ooh sorry! One from Germany, and there's one from Belgium too! Wow. Most are from the USA and most are from 2014. None feature top muslim leaders loudly and openly condemning terror through national media. I suggest you read through a few more of the links the article references. And did you miss this: Although large news networks seldom carry these Muslim voices of peace, a simple search will turn up all manner of condemnations of those whose actions tarnish the image and teachings of Islam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Why don't you tell us what it says that supports your claim? Oh, that's right, I forgot, you don't actually read anything... The whole article supports my claim Why don’t you try and refute the statements it makes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Which quotes exactly are you referring to as it depends on if its their opinion or fact There’s a whole article full, you are not short of choices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: The whole article supports my claim Why don’t you try and refute the statements it makes? that's what I thought, you didn't read it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I’ve provided link to an article with ample evidence. Once again you resort to the inflammatory accusation of lying. Me discussing the article for the 2nd time, 2 posts discussing it. "a George Town Uni piece that quotes a 15 year old opinion piece Guardian article from an old friend of Murray who used to work with him to base your claim of Murray being Islamophobic. Righty-o" you claiming I never discussed it: You’ve not addressed anything the article had to say. Did I address anything the article had to say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Me discussing the article for the 2nd time, 2 posts discussing it. "a George Town Uni piece that quotes a 15 year old opinion piece Guardian article from an old friend of Murray who used to work with him to base your claim of Murray being Islamophobic. Righty-o" you claiming I never discussed it: You’ve not addressed anything the article had to say. Did I discuss it? Moving the golf post Brian. I repeat. You have not discussed anything the article says. I’ve underlined that a number times with the intent you don’t miss the point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Moving the golf post Brian. I repeat. You have not discussed anything the article says. I’ve underlined that a number times with the intent you don’t miss the point. What golf posts have I moved? When you've answered that I'll get back to your dishonest claim I never addressed the article. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 You can bet if Muslims were right-wing, the borders would have been closed tight twenty years ago. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: That's deep Tone it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 40 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You need to read a bit more about Muslims and Muslim leaders in the UK working to combat Islamists. https://mcb.org.uk/resources/muslims-against-terrorism/ Why don't Muslim councillors and politicians openly campaign on eradicating Islamists and hate preaching in the UK? That would be more visible to the UK public, and might convince the public that ordinary Muslims are serious about dealing with these problems. They won't campaign on these things though for fear of losing Muslim voters, and possibly fear of losing their lives. What you provided doesn't reach the masses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said: Why don't Muslim councillors and politicians openly campaign on eradicating Islamists and hate preaching in the UK? That would be more visible to the UK public, and might convince the public that ordinary Muslims are serious about dealing with these problems. They won't campaign on these things though for fear of losing Muslim voters, and possibly fear of losing their lives. What you provided doesn't reach the masses. Well it clearly doesn’t reach you. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Well it clearly doesn’t reach you. So you have no response to the point I'm making? Expressing condolences after terrorist attacks is not the same as councillors and politicians campaigning. But you know this, hence you have no response. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 32 minutes ago, nauseus said: Tone it down. noted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblether Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 The thing that entertains me above all is the Irish complaining about immigrants. I can't think of many countries that have exported more people than Ireland over the past couple of centuries. And there lies the foundational racist issue. White people should be able to settle anywhere without restriction, brown and black should be put through torturous hell for the right to live in the UK. Add to that a wee bit of religious hatred and you have the perfect combustible mix. This forum is a prime example. The number of people here who growl about simple immigration requirements o Thailand then go wild at their home countries allowing immigration is beyond belief. Quite simply, low-IQ racism. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 26 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: Why don't Muslim councillors and politicians openly campaign on eradicating Islamists and hate preaching in the UK? Well, that’s because most of them fully support the hate preaching, segregated communities, any, and all antisemitism, the subjugation of all women, the persecution of all gays, fathers slaughtering their adolescent daughters under their rather quaint justification of ‘honour killing’ and not forgetting their support for the female genital mutilation of ten your old children … there are many other reasons, but there’s just a few for you to be getting on with. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 5 minutes ago, theblether said: The thing that entertains me above all is the Irish complaining about immigrants. I can't think of many countries that have exported more people than Ireland over the past couple of centuries. And there lies the foundational racist issue. White people should be able to settle anywhere without restriction, brown and black should be put through torturous hell for the right to live in the UK. Add to that a wee bit of religious hatred and you have the perfect combustible mix. This forum is a prime example. The number of people here who growl about simple immigration requirements o Thailand then go wild at their home countries allowing immigration is beyond belief. Quite simply, low-IQ racism. I think this is a prime example of somebody ignoring all the issues and concerns about the massive scale of immigration across Europe in the last few years. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 28 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Well, that’s because most of them fully support the hate preaching, segregated communities, any, and all antisemitism, the subjugation of all women, the persecution of all gays, fathers slaughtering their adolescent daughters under their rather quaint justification of ‘honour killing’ and not forgetting their support for the female genital mutilation of ten your old children … there are many other reasons, but there’s just a few for you to be getting on with. That’s a rather categorical claim. I’m sure you can back it up? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 54 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: So you have no response to the point I'm making? Expressing condolences after terrorist attacks is not the same as councillors and politicians campaigning. But you know this, hence you have no response. The efforts by leaders within the UK Muslim community to combat Islamist extremism go a lot further than ‘Expressing condolences after terrorist stacks’ The indications are you are unaware of this, perhaps deliberately so. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coolcarer Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: That’s a rather categorical claim. I’m sure you can back it up? oh the irony…….😂 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coolcarer Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The efforts by leaders within the UK Muslim community to combat Islamist extremism go a lot further than ‘Expressing condolences after terrorist stacks’ The indications are you are unaware of this, perhaps deliberately so. how successful are those efforts? 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: That’s a rather categorical claim. I’m sure you can back it up? Here ya go Holy-Quran-English.pdf (alislam.org) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 35 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The efforts by leaders within the UK Muslim community to combat Islamist extremism go a lot further than ‘Expressing condolences after terrorist stacks’ The indications are you are unaware of this, perhaps deliberately so. Mist people are unaware of this - if it's true - that's why they need to try harder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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