1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The article I linked provides numerous examples of Muslim leaders condemning Islamist terror groups and their violence.

In the UK local elections we had Muslim councillors campaigning (and some winning) on a ticket of supporting Palestine. 

I don't recall any Muslim councillors campaigning to rid UK towns and cities of Islamic radicalisation, Islamic violence and hate preaching Imams. 

 

I think if more of them did that it could sway public opinion. Why don't they do that? I think I know why.  

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I at least don’t rely on personal attacks.

It's not personal, most all you leftists do the same thing. 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your claim:

 

I know you'd prefer that to go away but its not. Its a lie.

 

Your other claim:

 

Prove it.

I’ve provided link to an article with ample evidence.

Once again you resort to the inflammatory accusation of lying.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Welcome back.

 

But wrong again.

 

Just one of the links from the article I linked to:

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/germany-muslims-islamic-state_n_5852342

 

Ooh sorry! One from Germany, and there's one from Belgium too! Wow.

 

Most are from the USA and most are from 2014. None feature top muslim leaders loudly and openly condemning terror through national media.

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Again you resort to a baseless accusation of lying.

 

You have not addressed anything the linked article said. 

Baselessly accusing others of lying is not discussion, it’s blatant baiting.

 

 

 

I used to play bass.

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

In the UK local elections we had Muslim councillors campaigning (and some winning) on a ticket of supporting Palestine. 

I don't recall any Muslim councillors campaigning to rid UK towns and cities of Islamic radicalisation, Islamic violence and hate preaching Imams. 

 

I think if more of them did that it could sway public opinion. Why don't they do that? I think I know why.  

You need to read a bit more about Muslims and Muslim leaders in the UK working to combat Islamists.

 

https://mcb.org.uk/resources/muslims-against-terrorism/

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

 

I used to play bass.

That's deep

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to read a bit more about Muslims and Muslim leaders in the UK working to combat Islamists.

 

https://mcb.org.uk/resources/muslims-against-terrorism/

Why don't you tell us what it says that supports your claim? Oh, that's right, I forgot, you don't actually read anything...

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Ooh sorry! One from Germany, and there's one from Belgium too! Wow.

 

Most are from the USA and most are from 2014. None feature top muslim leaders loudly and openly condemning terror through national media.

I suggest you read through a few more of the links the article references.

 

And did you miss this:

 

Although large news networks seldom carry these Muslim voices of peace, a simple search will turn up all manner of condemnations of those whose actions tarnish the image and teachings of Islam. 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Why don't you tell us what it says that supports your claim? Oh, that's right, I forgot, you don't actually read anything...

The whole article supports my claim 

 

Why don’t you try and refute the statements it makes?

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Which quotes exactly are you referring to as it depends on if its their opinion or fact

There’s a whole article full, you are not short of choices.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The whole article supports my claim 

 

Why don’t you try and refute the statements it makes?

that's what I thought, you didn't read it. 

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve provided link to an article with ample evidence.

Once again you resort to the inflammatory accusation of lying.

Me discussing the article for the 2nd time, 2 posts discussing it.

 

"a George Town Uni piece that quotes a 15 year old opinion piece Guardian article from an old friend of Murray who used to work with him  to base your claim of Murray being Islamophobic. Righty-o"

 

you claiming I never discussed it:

 

You’ve not addressed anything the article had to say.

 

Did I address anything the article had to say?

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Me discussing the article for the 2nd time, 2 posts discussing it.

 

"a George Town Uni piece that quotes a 15 year old opinion piece Guardian article from an old friend of Murray who used to work with him  to base your claim of Murray being Islamophobic. Righty-o"

 

you claiming I never discussed it:

 

You’ve not addressed anything the article had to say.

 

Did I discuss it?

Moving the golf post Brian.

 

I repeat.

 

You have not discussed anything the article says.

 

I’ve underlined that a number times with the intent you don’t miss the point.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Moving the golf post Brian.

 

I repeat.

 

You have not discussed anything the article says.

 

I’ve underlined that a number times with the intent you don’t miss the point.

What golf posts have I moved? When you've answered that I'll get back to your dishonest claim I never addressed the article.

You can bet if Muslims were right-wing, the borders would have been closed tight twenty years ago. 

19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That's deep

 

Tone it down.

40 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to read a bit more about Muslims and Muslim leaders in the UK working to combat Islamists.

 

https://mcb.org.uk/resources/muslims-against-terrorism/

Why don't Muslim councillors and politicians openly campaign on eradicating Islamists and hate preaching in the UK? That would be more visible to the UK public, and might convince the public that ordinary Muslims are serious about dealing with these problems. 

 

They won't campaign on these things though for fear of losing Muslim voters, and possibly fear of losing their lives. 

 

What you provided doesn't reach the masses. 

 

 

1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why don't Muslim councillors and politicians openly campaign on eradicating Islamists and hate preaching in the UK? That would be more visible to the UK public, and might convince the public that ordinary Muslims are serious about dealing with these problems. 

 

They won't campaign on these things though for fear of losing Muslim voters, and possibly fear of losing their lives. 

 

What you provided doesn't reach the masses. 

 

 

Well it clearly doesn’t reach you.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Well it clearly doesn’t reach you.

So you have no response to the point I'm making? 

 

Expressing condolences after terrorist attacks is not the same as councillors and politicians campaigning. But you know this, hence you have no response. 

32 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Tone it down.

noted 

The thing that entertains me above all is the Irish complaining about immigrants. I can't think of many countries that have exported more people than Ireland over the past couple of centuries. 

 

And there lies the foundational racist issue. White people should be able to settle anywhere without restriction, brown and black should be put through torturous hell for the right to live in the UK. 

 

Add to that a wee bit of religious hatred and you have the perfect combustible mix. 

 

This forum is a prime example. The number of people here who growl about simple immigration requirements o Thailand then go wild at their home countries allowing immigration is beyond belief. 

 

Quite simply, low-IQ racism. 

26 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why don't Muslim councillors and politicians openly campaign on eradicating Islamists and hate preaching in the UK?

 

 

 

Well, that’s because most of them fully support the hate preaching, segregated communities, any, and all antisemitism, the subjugation of all women, the persecution of all gays, fathers slaughtering their adolescent daughters under their rather quaint justification of ‘honour killing’ and not forgetting their support for the female genital mutilation of ten your old children … there are many other reasons, but there’s just a few for you to be getting on with.

 

 

5 minutes ago, theblether said:

The thing that entertains me above all is the Irish complaining about immigrants. I can't think of many countries that have exported more people than Ireland over the past couple of centuries. 

 

And there lies the foundational racist issue. White people should be able to settle anywhere without restriction, brown and black should be put through torturous hell for the right to live in the UK. 

 

Add to that a wee bit of religious hatred and you have the perfect combustible mix. 

 

This forum is a prime example. The number of people here who growl about simple immigration requirements o Thailand then go wild at their home countries allowing immigration is beyond belief. 

 

Quite simply, low-IQ racism. 

I think this is a prime example of somebody ignoring all the issues and concerns about the massive scale of immigration across Europe in the last few years. 

28 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

 

Well, that’s because most of them fully support the hate preaching, segregated communities, any, and all antisemitism, the subjugation of all women, the persecution of all gays, fathers slaughtering their adolescent daughters under their rather quaint justification of ‘honour killing’ and not forgetting their support for the female genital mutilation of ten your old children … there are many other reasons, but there’s just a few for you to be getting on with.

 

 

That’s a rather categorical claim.

 

I’m sure you can back it up? 

54 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

So you have no response to the point I'm making? 

 

Expressing condolences after terrorist attacks is not the same as councillors and politicians campaigning. But you know this, hence you have no response. 

The efforts by leaders within the UK Muslim community to combat Islamist extremism go a lot further than ‘Expressing condolences after terrorist stacks’ 

 

The indications are you are unaware of this, perhaps deliberately so.

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s a rather categorical claim.

 

I’m sure you can back it up? 

oh the irony…….😂

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The efforts by leaders within the UK Muslim community to combat Islamist extremism go a lot further than ‘Expressing condolences after terrorist stacks’ 

 

The indications are you are unaware of this, perhaps deliberately so.

how successful are those efforts?

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s a rather categorical claim.

 

I’m sure you can back it up? 

Here ya go

Holy-Quran-English.pdf (alislam.org)

35 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The efforts by leaders within the UK Muslim community to combat Islamist extremism go a lot further than ‘Expressing condolences after terrorist stacks’ 

 

The indications are you are unaware of this, perhaps deliberately so.

 

Mist people are unaware of this - if it's true - that's why they need to try harder.