Briggsy Posted February 16 Posted February 16 4 hours ago, billy100 said: Hello, I am not sure if this question has been posed before regarding the DTV, Apologies if it has, but possibly some well-informed members here may be able to offer me advice on a specific area of the DTV requirements. Note: finance requirements required under the DTV are not a problem for me. My specific point is that I am a private investor; I invest both for myself and family members. I am very active in the UK stock market working on line about 2-3 hours a day. My question is, would this type of work (which I carry out from all the various countries I visit), satisfy the remote worker/digital nomad requirement of the DTV. I don’t work for a company, purely a very active private investor. Thanks in advance It appears that you are applying for a 'workcation' category DTV from the London Thai embassy. This is what I have. From memory, they are looking for either a "professional portfolio" or a "contract of employment clearly showing the opportunity to work remotely". I would suggest from the information that you have provided you are very much stretching the professional portfolio route. First of all, it is not professional. You are doing this in a personal capacity not a professional capacity. But you do not need to convince me. Having said that, I have always found the London Thai embassy will look at the big picture and has some latitude for their interpretation of the rules. So, give it a go. The worst case scenario is you lose the £300 application fee. To be honest, if you are 50 or over, the non-imm O will be a very straightforward application for you. This can then be extended in-country. This sounds far more suitable to your situation.
billy100 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 34 minutes ago, Briggsy said: It appears that you are applying for a 'workcation' category DTV from the London Thai embassy. This is what I have. From memory, they are looking for either a "professional portfolio" or a "contract of employment clearly showing the opportunity to work remotely". I would suggest from the information that you have provided you are very much stretching the professional portfolio route. First of all, it is not professional. You are doing this in a personal capacity not a professional capacity. But you do not need to convince me. Having said that, I have always found the London Thai embassy will look at the big picture and has some latitude for their interpretation of the rules. So, give it a go. The worst case scenario is you lose the £300 application fee. To be honest, if you are 50 or over, the non-imm O will be a very straightforward application for you. This can then be extended in-country. This sounds far more suitable to your situation. Many thanks for the response. Would the non-imm O Visa allow me to enter and leave multiple times as that is what I am really looking for
oliverphoenix2 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 6 hours ago, billy100 said: Hello, I am not sure if this question has been posed before regarding the DTV, Apologies if it has, but possibly some well-informed members here may be able to offer me advice on a specific area of the DTV requirements. Note: finance requirements required under the DTV are not a problem for me. My specific point is that I am a private investor; I invest both for myself and family members. I am very active in the UK stock market working on line about 2-3 hours a day. My question is, would this type of work (which I carry out from all the various countries I visit), satisfy the remote worker/digital nomad requirement of the DTV. I don’t work for a company, purely a very active private investor. Thanks in advance I got my UK DTV evisa as a remote worker in Aug 2024 from trading online somewhat similar to you. I uploaded my last 3 months Interactive Brokers account statements, a UK bank statement showing over GBP 10,000 and a short cover letter. Within a couple of days I got a document request for an explanation of my situation, tax return/assessment of estimated tax liability, full flight itinerary from UK to Thailand with transfer details and an explanation of why I needed to be in Thailand. I uploaded the 2 attachments and got the DTV within a week. My take is that at the very least you will need to show that you are doing what you are claiming and you are making a meaningful income from your online investing. My statements showed my daily activity and that I was making an income although I had no tax liability. If you could for example show proof of paying UK taxes on your activity it would help to verify that you are making an income. 1
treetops Posted February 16 Posted February 16 3 hours ago, billy100 said: Many thanks for the response. Would the non-imm O Visa allow me to enter and leave multiple times as that is what I am really looking for The Non Imm visa you would use once to get entry into Thailand for 3 months and would then extend your permission to stay for a year at a time. You would add a Multiple Re-entry permit to this to get what you desire. 1 1
Briggsy Posted February 17 Posted February 17 @billy100 The above example from @oliverphoenix2 is an excellent guide in carefully reading the conditions of the visa and then presenting your case keeping those visa stipulations in mind. It is also an excellent example of the holistic view and the lateral flexibility the London Embassy has as everybody's situation is different. The key is to present your case, when the request for further documents comes, in a concise and professional manner directly addressing their points. (Make sure you know how to combine pdf's!)
2long Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Can I ask any successful applicants what they supplied for 3.?👇🏻 Would it be a hotel reservation in the country of application (for example Vietnam) or something else?
BrandonJT Posted February 17 Posted February 17 4 hours ago, 2long said: Can I ask any successful applicants what they supplied for 3.?👇🏻 Would it be a hotel reservation in the country of application (for example Vietnam) or something else? Stamp in your passport showing you entered the country. 1
DC1066 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Hi, I don't know if this question has been asked previously, so apologies if I've missed it. I have my own limited company, where I'm the only employee. I'm unsure of the requirement for proof of employment/letter from employer confirming my remote work status, as I'd effectively by writing my own letter. I'd appreciate any info' from those who are in the same situation and have managed to work it out. Many thanks,
farang51 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 46 minutes ago, DC1066 said: I have my own limited company, where I'm the only employee. I'm unsure of the requirement for proof of employment/letter from employer confirming my remote work status, as I'd effectively by writing my own letter. I'd appreciate any info' from those who are in the same situation and have managed to work it out. Which country? I'm Danish, we have a national register for companies. I used a copy of my registration when applying for the DTV. Perhaps your country has a similar register? 1
Popular Post sustanon Posted February 22 Popular Post Posted February 22 just received my dtv. soft power. many thanks to the thai gov. after 10 years of tourist visas, education visas, extensions, border runs, they have made the life of a 37 yo so much easier. and legal 2 1 1 1
Briggsy Posted February 23 Posted February 23 10 hours ago, DC1066 said: Hi, I don't know if this question has been asked previously, so apologies if I've missed it. I have my own limited company, where I'm the only employee. I'm unsure of the requirement for proof of employment/letter from employer confirming my remote work status, as I'd effectively by writing my own letter. I'd appreciate any info' from those who are in the same situation and have managed to work it out. Many thanks, Which country is this? Is it a UK PSC? The first stop is a contract of employment. This may exist but it probably won't mention remote working which is required. The next thing to try would be a "professional portfolio". If these are inappropriate, then as you said, just write a letter as director of the company which I presume you are stating what you do and show that you can do your work remotely. This will depend on the nature of your work, of course. I obtained a workcation DTV. My contract of employment did not mention remote working but I got my manager to write a letter stating that I could. That was accepted. 2
DC1066 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 13 hours ago, farang51 said: Which country? I'm Danish, we have a national register for companies. I used a copy of my registration when applying for the DTV. Perhaps your country has a similar register? Hi, sorry, I'm in the UK. We have the same, so I have what we call a 'certificate of incorporation'. Thanks
DC1066 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Briggsy said: Which country is this? Is it a UK PSC? The first stop is a contract of employment. This may exist but it probably won't mention remote working which is required. The next thing to try would be a "professional portfolio". If these are inappropriate, then as you said, just write a letter as director of the company which I presume you are stating what you do and show that you can do your work remotely. This will depend on the nature of your work, of course. I obtained a workcation DTV. My contract of employment did not mention remote working but I got my manager to write a letter stating that I could. That was accepted. Hi, thanks. Yes, it is a UK PSC. As it is only myself in the Company, I don't have a contract of employment. I work in financial services as a contractor, so I do have contracts with the firms I contract to, though that would I imagine be difficult to explain in a visa app. I was thinking of sending a letter as director as you describe it, but it would by me writing it about myself as I don't have a manager. I was also thinking of sending a copy of my Certificate of Incorporation, and maybe even latest accounts. Thanks.
Briggsy Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, DC1066 said: Hi, thanks. Yes, it is a UK PSC. As it is only myself in the Company, I don't have a contract of employment. I work in financial services as a contractor, so I do have contracts with the firms I contract to, though that would I imagine be difficult to explain in a visa app. I was thinking of sending a letter as director as you describe it, but it would by me writing it about myself as I don't have a manager. I was also thinking of sending a copy of my Certificate of Incorporation, and maybe even latest accounts. Thanks. I think by doing what you state in the final paragraph, you have an excellent chance of obtaining this visa. I know this is a very long thread but there was somebody earlier on in the thread who obtained a DTV doing pretty much what you are suggesting. Maybe you could find it. Also it is good that the nature of the business is not one which precludes remote working such as construction work, health care or catering services, etc. I worked with PSC owners a lot in the UK. This kind of subcontractor is clearly a target market for the DTV provided the remote working component can be satisfied. Just put all the documents together nicely, clearly and concisely and you will get the visa. Edit : I assume you are applying at the London Embassy. All bets are off if you are applying in Laos or somewhere locally. They may not know what to make of the documents you provide. 2
DC1066 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Briggsy said: I think by doing what you state in the final paragraph, you have an excellent chance of obtaining this visa. I know this is a very long thread but there was somebody earlier on in the thread who obtained a DTV doing pretty much what you are suggesting. Maybe you could find it. Also it is good that the nature of the business is not one which precludes remote working such as construction work, health care or catering services, etc. I worked with PSC owners a lot in the UK. This kind of subcontractor is clearly a target market for the DTV provided the remote working component can be satisfied. Just put all the documents together nicely, clearly and concisely and you will get the visa. Edit : I assume you are applying at the London Embassy. All bets are off if you are applying in Laos or somewhere locally. They may not know what to make of the documents you provide. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Yes, I will be applying at the London Embassy. I'm in Thailand at the moment, but want to be in a position to submit the application as soon as I get back. Thinking out loud, my view is to submit with what I've got, and as much relevant detail - without it being War and Peace, then see if it goes through, or I get specific feedback on areas I need to address. I'll have a trawl through the thread see if I can find the post(s) you refer to. Any additional thoughts from those in the know would be appreciated. Thanks again.
Popular Post Chalky0w Posted February 23 Popular Post Posted February 23 5 hours ago, DC1066 said: Thanks for taking the time to reply. Yes, I will be applying at the London Embassy. I'm in Thailand at the moment, but want to be in a position to submit the application as soon as I get back. Thinking out loud, my view is to submit with what I've got, and as much relevant detail - without it being War and Peace, then see if it goes through, or I get specific feedback on areas I need to address. I'll have a trawl through the thread see if I can find the post(s) you refer to. Any additional thoughts from those in the know would be appreciated. Thanks again. I was in exactly your situation and wrote my own Director’s letter to UK embassy and was approved. Not sure everything I did was required but details: - Used company letter headed paper with logo - Stated I was an employee and owner - Stated company was private limited, registered in UK and gave company number and registered address - Provided nature of my business and that it could be performed remotely - Signed it myself as director - Included one appendix with link to and screen shot from companies house website showing I was sole director - Included second appendix with portfolio of clients (various across multiple countries). This didn’t show revenue for each client but did summarise gross profit from latest financial year. I had other evidence available if requested (e.g. personal self-assessment tax return, company accounts, etc.) but they weren’t requested. Hope useful and good luck 3
DC1066 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 41 minutes ago, Chalky0w said: I was in exactly your situation and wrote my own Director’s letter to UK embassy and was approved. Not sure everything I did was required but details: - Used company letter headed paper with logo - Stated I was an employee and owner - Stated company was private limited, registered in UK and gave company number and registered address - Provided nature of my business and that it could be performed remotely - Signed it myself as director - Included one appendix with link to and screen shot from companies house website showing I was sole director - Included second appendix with portfolio of clients (various across multiple countries). This didn’t show revenue for each client but did summarise gross profit from latest financial year. I had other evidence available if requested (e.g. personal self-assessment tax return, company accounts, etc.) but they weren’t requested. Hope useful and good luck Really useful, thanks. All of the above makes sense, and straightforward enough to get hold of - see if I can design a letterhead in 5 minutes 🙂. I was wondering about the Accounts/self-assessment and whether to include. Reading your comments, it seems to make sense not to overload, but have these in reserve if requested. I'm still here for around another six weeks, but will apply immediately on return and will post my experience for those who have offered help. Hopefully also of some use to others who come later. Thanks again. 1
Chalky0w Posted February 24 Posted February 24 11 hours ago, DC1066 said: Really useful, thanks. All of the above makes sense, and straightforward enough to get hold of - see if I can design a letterhead in 5 minutes 🙂. I was wondering about the Accounts/self-assessment and whether to include. Reading your comments, it seems to make sense not to overload, but have these in reserve if requested. I'm still here for around another six weeks, but will apply immediately on return and will post my experience for those who have offered help. Hopefully also of some use to others who come later. Thanks again. Yes, letterhead doesn’t need to be anything fancy. My “logo” is the name of my business in one font / size / colour and a strap line in underneath it another. I use it on business cards for when I go to conferences or meet clients in person but equivalent could be created easily enough. I thought about including other documents but decided against it and in my instance they weren’t requested but have seen a few reports here saying people had follow-up requests by email. Really quick turnaround. Think I had the visa come through within about 5 days of applying. I’m sure others will be interested in your experience so please report back. I applied in August so things might have changed but most reports seem to indicate UK or home countries’ embassies are a bit more lenient than ones close to Thailand so think you’ll be ok. 1
2long Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Does anyone have any FIRST HAND feedback on how to prove your 500k+ in the bank? I can get PDF statements from my bank, but if I'm already overseas and they ask for a certified letter from my SCB bank, it will be difficult. I'm happy to get a letter from SCB, but I believe all documents need to be digital, anyway. As much as I hate 'Big Brother,' in this instance, it would be convenient if the embassy can actually contact banks to check if balances are real.
farang51 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 57 minutes ago, 2long said: Does anyone have any FIRST HAND feedback on how to prove your 500k+ in the bank? I can get PDF statements from my bank, but if I'm already overseas and they ask for a certified letter from my SCB bank, it will be difficult. I'm happy to get a letter from SCB, but I believe all documents need to be digital, anyway. As much as I hate 'Big Brother,' in this instance, it would be convenient if the embassy can actually contact banks to check if balances are real. Which country? In Denmark, I only needed a digital statement from the bank with my name on it. 1
2long Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, farang51 said: Which country? In Denmark, I only needed a digital statement from the bank with my name on it. I plan to do this in Vietnam, with my Thai SCB bank account.
farang51 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, 2long said: I plan to do this in Vietnam, with my Thai SCB bank account. I would just apply. I think the risk of them asking for a certified letter is very low - is there even a bank that would provide such a letter? But perhaps people that have tried to apply in Vietnam can give you a better answer.
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