Hunter Biden Seeks Dismissal of Criminal Cases, Citing Trump Case Precedent

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Hunter Biden, son of President Joe Biden, has formally requested the dismissal of his tax and gun cases, pointing to a recent ruling in the Trump classified documents case as a key precedent. The filings, made in federal courts in Delaware and California, highlight the potential far-reaching implications of US District Judge Aileen Cannon’s decision earlier this week to dismiss a prosecution of former President Donald Trump.

 

Hunter Biden’s legal team is arguing that the rationale used to dismiss Trump’s case should similarly apply to his own, potentially altering the legal landscape for the Justice Department's special counsels. Both Biden and Trump were prosecuted by special counsels appointed by US Attorney General Merrick Garland.

 

Cannon's dismissal of Trump’s case was based on her determination that the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith was unconstitutional because he was appointed directly by Garland, bypassing the Senate confirmation process. Smith’s team has contested this ruling, citing precedents like the Trump-era appointment of Robert Mueller, which was upheld by the courts, and has appealed the decision to a federal appeals court in Atlanta.

 

In their Thursday filings, Hunter Biden’s lawyers contended that this same logic should lead to the dismissal of his pending tax case in Los Angeles and the separate firearm case in Delaware, where he was convicted in June on three felony charges. Hunter Biden's legal team had previously raised similar arguments without success, but they now see a renewed basis for reconsideration given the recent legal developments.

 

“Based on these new legal developments, Mr. Biden moves to dismiss the indictment brought against him because the Special Counsel who initiated this prosecution was appointed in violation of the Appointments Clause as well,” Biden’s lawyers wrote. They also referenced a recent opinion by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas that questioned the propriety of special counsel appointments.

 

“The Attorney General relied upon the exact same authority to appoint the Special Counsel in both the Trump and Biden matters, and both appointments are invalid for the same reason,” the lawyers added.

 

There are distinctions between the special counsels in the two cases. Jack Smith, who prosecuted Trump, was hired from outside the Justice Department, whereas David Weiss, who prosecuted Hunter Biden, was already serving as the US Attorney in Delaware at the time of his appointment. Despite these differences, Cannon noted that a special counsel’s powers are “arguably broader than a traditional United States attorney, as he is permitted to exercise his investigatory powers across multiple districts within the same investigation.”

 

Biden’s lawyers emphasized that this expansive authority was precisely what occurred in his case, with Weiss, acting as special counsel, filing charges against Biden in both California and Delaware, and separately charging a former FBI informant with lying about the Bidens.

“Mere US Attorneys do not have that power. Given that Congress requires a US Attorney to be nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate, it makes no sense to assume that Congress would allow the Attorney General to unilaterally appoint someone as Special Counsel with equal or greater power than a US Attorney,” Biden’s lawyers wrote. “That is what has been attempted here.”

 

As the legal battle unfolds, the implications of Judge Cannon’s ruling and Hunter Biden's dismissal request could significantly influence the future operations of special counsels and the prosecution of high-profile cases.

 

Credit: The Guardian 2024-07-20

 

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[wombat]

More twists and turns than an eel on a fish hook.

[impulse]

If there actually was a special prosecutor assigned for the case of a civilian on a plain vanilla firearm charge, my first question would be "why?".

 

But if that's true, set aside the results (without prejudice) and try him again.  Seems only fair.  Bankrupt him some more, why don'tcha?  Or you can wait for his Dad to get clear of this election thing and pardon him.  Seems like that would save everyone a bunch of money.

 

Personally, I care little about this case, because it's a distraction and delay tactic from the cases of financial shenanigans that may surface evidence that connects the sitting President.  Those are the big wadiddlies.  This case is small potatoes.

 

[thaipo7]

What a crock to compare the two.  Hunter did in fact lie on a Federal form when filing for a gun permit.  The prosecutor in Hunters case was properly chosen to prosecute the case.  In Trump's case that was dismissed, Jack Smith was brought back from the Hague.  He was a civilian.  Corrupt Garland brought Jack Smith back to the US for the purpose of being a Special Prosecutor against Trump.  He was chosen because he is good at bending the laws to fit the case he prosecute.  Everyone with any experience at the Justice Dept. knows that any case against Trump by Jack Smith will be thrown out by a higher court.  But there goal was to get Trump convicted of anything and sentence to Prison so Democrats would win the election.  This be the same as Obama's 4th term with his apparatus in place to complete his goal of Transformation of America.  There would only be a one Party system.  The Marxist Democrat Party.  Look up Jack Smith on the Internet and note how he went after a Republican governor of VA.  In the end, the Supreme Court ruled 8 to 0 against Jack Smith.  But the damage was done.  The Governor went bankrupt from legal fees.  Jack destroys Republican lives.

[wwest5829]

The irony is rich …

[Purdey]

Goose. Gander 

[radiochaser]

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21 hours ago, Purdey said:

Goose. Gander 

President, not a president. 

[JonnyF]

I wish this crackhead would just shut up and start making arrangements for his father's care home. 

 

The world has had enough of the Biden crime family. 

[placeholder]

On 7/21/2024 at 10:17 AM, JonnyF said:

I wish this crackhead would just shut up and start making arrangements for his father's care home. 

 

The world has had enough of the Biden crime family. 

Actually, the world has had enough of the phrase "Biden crime family". A congressional investigation failed miserable to establish any proof of  criminal conspiracy on the Bidens. But if you have evidence that this is not the case, post it with a link to a credible source as the rules here require. Good luck with that.

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the world has had enough of the phrase "Biden crime family". A congressional investigation failed miserable to establish any proof of  criminal conspiracy on the Bidens. But if you have evidence that this is not the case, post it with a link to a credible source as the rules here require. Good luck with that.

 

I've posted links of the crimes of the Biden crime family here many times. 

 

All I get is "credit card fraud, gun crime, crack addiction, prostitution etc. don't count". And they're just the ones proven so far. Many more to come once Biden loses the power to bury everything. 

 

The Dems opened Pandora's box going after an ex-President via lawfare. Crooked Joe is in for a world of hurt post election, the only thing that might save him is his own natural expiry.  

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I've posted links of the crimes of the Biden crime family here many times. 

 

All I get is "credit card fraud, gun crime, crack addiction, prostitution etc. don't count". And they're just the ones proven so far. Many more to come once Biden loses the power to bury everything. 

 

The Dems opened Pandora's box going after an ex-President via lawfare. Crooked Joe is in for a world of hurt post election, the only thing that might save him is his own natural expiry.  

In other words,, all you've got is links to dodgy sources. If they weren't dodgy, you should have no trouble providing those links. As for your assertion of " Many more to come once Biden loses the power to bury everything." please share with us links to any credible source that backs up your claim. I won't hold my breath waiting. 

[JonnyF]

On 7/23/2024 at 8:27 AM, placeholder said:

In other words,, all you've got is links to dodgy sources. If they weren't dodgy, you should have no trouble providing those links. As for your assertion of " Many more to come once Biden loses the power to bury everything." please share with us links to any credible source that backs up your claim. I won't hold my breath waiting. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13518479/Bidens-Hunter-guilty-gun-conviction-crimes.html

 

 

Lovely family. No crime there then. 😄

[placeholder]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13518479/Bidens-Hunter-guilty-gun-conviction-crimes.html

 

 

Lovely family. No crime there then. 😄

So essentiallly, you've got nothing tying Joe Biden to any of this. The other criminal was a niece accused of credit card fraud. Is it a crime to have a son and niece who commit crimiinal acts. And you missed these passages from the article:

"In 2019, Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to investigate links between the Biden family and Burisma, a gas company based in Kyiv with Hunter on the board.

Fake theories claiming Joe Biden had improperly withheld a loan guarantee and taken a bribe to hush a corruption investigation were spread in an apparent effort to discredit Biden.

In December last year, the House backed an impeachment inquiry into the President over allegations about the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor that had reportedly already been debunked by 'at least nine government witnesses'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13518479/Bidens-Hunter-guilty-gun-conviction-crimes.html

 

Next time you link to something, you might want to read something more than the headlines.

 

[JonnyF]

Just now, placeholder said:

So essentiallly, you've got nothing tying Joe Biden to any of this. The other criminal was a niece accused of credit card fraud. Is it a crime to have a son and niece who commit crimiinal acts. And you missed these passages from the article:

"In 2019, Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to investigate links between the Biden family and Burisma, a gas company based in Kyiv with Hunter on the board.

Fake theories claiming Joe Biden had improperly withheld a loan guarantee and taken a bribe to hush a corruption investigation were spread in an apparent effort to discredit Biden.

In December last year, the House backed an impeachment inquiry into the President over allegations about the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor that had reportedly already been debunked by 'at least nine government witnesses'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13518479/Bidens-Hunter-guilty-gun-conviction-crimes.html

 

Next time you link to something, you might want to read something more than the headlines.

 

 

That's why I used the word crime family. Because multiple members of the family are committing crimes like credit card fraud, gun crime, crack cocaine possession, prostitution etc. 

 

Which of the 3 words Biden, crime and family are causing you the issue here? I might be able to help. 

[placeholder]

26 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

That's why I used the word crime family. Because multiple members of the family are committing crimes like credit card fraud, gun crime, crack cocaine possession, prostitution etc. 

 

Which of the 3 words Biden, crime and family are causing you the issue here? I might be able to help. 

More nonsense from you. 2 members of Biden's family have criminal records - and the crimes of the one have nothing to do with the other - and somehow that makes the Bidens a crime family?

Crime family is a commonly used expression in relation to the mafia encompassing members of an ongoing criminal enterprise who aren't necessarily related to each other. An organization that more closely conforms to that usage is The Trump Organization, which was tried on 17 criminal counts. But it was only convicted of 17 of them.

Edited July 23 by placeholder

[JonnyF]

19 minutes ago, placeholder said:

More nonsense from you. 2 members of Biden's family have criminal records - and the crimes of the one have nothing to do with the other - and somehow that makes the Bidens a crime family?

Crime family is a commonly used expression in relation to the mafia encompassing members of an ongoing criminal enterprise who aren't necessarily related to each other. An organization that more closely conforms to that usage is The Trump Group, which was tried on 17 criminal counts. But it was only convicted of 17 of them.

 

You use the term how you want.

 

And I will continue to use it how I want. For the Biden Crime Family. 

[placeholder]

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

You use the term how you want.

 

And I will continue to use it how I want. For the Biden Crime Family. 

Apparently, to your way of thinking, all the members of that family have committed the crime of willfully having their surname be "Biden." It is to laugh.

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Apparently, to your way of thinking, all the members of that family have committed the crime of willfully having their surname be "Biden." It is to laugh.

 

No, you made that up.

 

More desperate stuff. Panic setting in.  😃

[placeholder]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

No, you made that up.

 

More desperate stuff. Panic setting in.  😃

If the name doesn't mean that, then what does it signify? That 2 members of a large family have committed crimes? More nonsense from you.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

If the name doesn't mean that, then what does it signify?

 

If I had to choose one word? Dishonesty. 

 

If I were allowed two? Dishonesty and Hypocrisy. 

 

Classic leftist traits. 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

If I had to choose one word? Dishonesty. 

 

If I were allowed two? Dishonesty and Hypocrisy. 

 

Classic leftist traits. 

I’ll see your two words and raise you one.

 

“Accusation confession”.

 

”Projection”

 

 

 

 

Edited July 23 by Chomper Higgot

[placeholder]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

If I had to choose one word? Dishonesty. 

 

If I were allowed two? Dishonesty and Hypocrisy. 

 

Classic leftist traits. 

Even if your characterization was true of all or most of the Bidens, is dishonesty a crime? Is hypocrisy a crime? More nonsense from you.

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

”Projection”

 

Another leftist trait.

 

They are exactly what they accuse you of being. 

[JonnyF]

Just now, placeholder said:

Even if your characterization was true of all or most of the Bidens, is dishonesty a crime? Is hypocrisy a crime? More nonsense from you.

 

It is if you are lieing about crack cocaine possession, credit card fraud, lieing on a form to purchase a gun, prostitution etc. 

 

Please see the links I posted above for clarification. 

 

The Biden Crime family got form. 

[placeholder]

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

It is if you are lieing about crack cocaine possession, credit card fraud, lieing on a form to purchase a gun, prostitution etc. 

 

Please see the links I posted above for clarification. 

 

The Biden Crime family got form. 

Stop trying to deflect. You claimed that hypocrisy and dishonesty were the reasons you called the Bidens a crime family. I asked you if hypocrisy and dishonesty are crimes and all you did was revert to referencing the crimes of Hunter Biden and the crime of Joe Biden's niece. What have their crimes  got to do with the rest of Joe Biden's large extended family? 

It should also be pointed out that if, In fact, if hypocrisy and dishonesty are crimes, it's a fair bet that most of humanity are criminals. And that would certainly include quite a few ex-Presidents.

[JonnyF]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Stop trying to deflect. You claimed that hypocrisy and dishonesty were the reasons you called the Bidens a crime family. I asked you if hypocrisy and dishonesty are crimes and all you did was revert to referencing the crimes of Hunter Biden and the crime of Joe Biden's niece. What have their crimes  got to do with the rest of Joe Biden's large extended family? 

It should also be pointed out that if, In fact, if hypocrisy and dishonesty are crimes, it's a fair bet that most of humanity are criminals. And that would certainly include quite a few ex-Presidents.

 

You asked which words sprung to mind about the Bidens. Not which crimes.

 

If you want the crimes of the Biden Crime Family, refer to my previous links. 

[placeholder]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You asked which words sprung to mind about the Bidens. Not which crimes.

 

If you want the crimes of the Biden Crime Family, refer to my previous links. 

No, I asked you what does the name Biden Crime Family signify?

You seem to think that this is some kind of Rorschach test in which anything you say is not to be challenged because it's subjective. If your thought process is irrational, which in this case it clearly is, then it deserves to be called out as such. Hypocrisy and dishonesty are not in themselves crimes. But if you want words to have meanings peculiar to themselves, then you don't belong in a forum where a common language is the medium of communication.

[candide]

The choice of "Bidens familly" by the right-wing is just a way to smear Joe Biden indirectly, as they have nothing on him.

It's very simple, they say "the  Biden crime familly", because they cannot talk aboutJoe Biden's crimes.

 

The left-wing (or so-called) doesn't need to say "the Trump crime familly", as they can talk directly about Trumps crimes, convicted felon, etc...

[riclag]

Judge rebukes hunter  biden’s  Lawyers for making false statements

in his recent motion to throw out his Federal Tax indictment!

 “Lawyers are misrepresenting the history of the case”.

 

 

[JonnyF]

The only reason crooked Joe is staying on is to pardon his crackhead son.

 

The Biden crime family loves Democracy as long as it let's them walk away from their law breaking.

 

Let's hope the burdens are gone soon.