Trump's pick of JD Vance a hopefully fatal mistake for his maga fascist movement

[TedG]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The plan’s authors do propose making Medicare Advantage the default plan for beneficiaries and ending the Medicare Part D price negotiation program, both proposals that critics say could lead to worse care or increased costs for seniors.  Medicare Advantage, also called Medicare Part C, is not the same as traditional Medicare, also called Medicare Parts A and B. Medicare Advantage are plans offered by private, for-profit health insurers that receive federal funding for offering these plans. Traditional Medicare is public health insurance in which the federal government directly pays for a beneficiary’s covered services. Medicare Part D is Medicare’s prescription drug coverage.

 

One of the plan’s major proposals involves gradually raising the retirement age from 66 or 67 to 69 or 70. Katz shared that raising the retirement age means that people currently relying on Social Security might need to work longer to receive their full benefits, which could potentially impact their retirement plans and financial security.

 

1) Yes, it says to make medicare advantage the default enrolment option.  I don't see any issue with that. 

 

2) There is nothing in the doc about raising the retirement age. 

 

 

Do you agree that the doc does not cut social security as you said in a previous post? 

[TedG]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Logic isn't strong with the maga cult.

 

Pot meet kettle. 

[susanlea]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Logic isn't strong with the maga cult.

Successful cult leading the polls. The loser woke cult isn't doing so well.

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Biden is my leader. 

No, you are misrepresenting what I said, and you should apologize. 

 

What I said was: I said that the United States Attorney General reports to and serves at the pleasure of the President. 

 

Is that true or not? 

 

Of course. Did Biden not allow his son to indicted? 

You have lost the plot.

 

Trump and Project 2025 aim to give operational control of DOJ, with the power to initiate prosecutions and with veto power over potential investigations.

 

That is classic Fascism.

 

Do you approve of Trump's goal?

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, TedG said:

 

1) Yes, it says to make medicare advantage the default enrolment option.  I don't see any issue with that. 

 

2) There is nothing in the doc about raising the retirement age. 

 

 

Do you agree that the doc does not cut social security as you said in a previous post? 

Medicare Part D would be required to raise prices on Prescription drugs.

 

People would be forced into Medicare Advantage.

 

Project 2025's authors have called for raising the Social Security retirement age.

 

Project 2025 is evil. Now we are just debating how evil it is.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You have lost the plot.

 

Trump and Project 2025 aim to give operational control of DOJ, with the power to initiate prosecutions and with veto power over potential investigations.

 

That is classic Fascism.

 

Do you approve of Trump's goal?

You keep "misrepresenting the truth", which I know does not bother you, or others on the left but it bothers me. 

 

Answer my questions. and I will happily answer yours.  I have attached the entire post below for your reference. 

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

You keep "misrepresenting the truth", which I know does not bother you, or others on the left but it bothers me. 

 

Answer my questions. and I will happily answer yours.  I have attached the entire post below for your reference. 

 

 

 

Your remarks are off-topic.

 

The topic is Trump's plan to change the relationship between POTUS and DOJ.

 

So, do you approve of Trump's plan to exercise operational control over DOJ?

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Medicare Part D would be required to raise prices on Prescription drugs.

 

People would be forced into Medicare Advantage.

 

Project 2025's authors have called for raising the Social Security retirement age.

 

Project 2025 is evil. Now we are just debating how evil it is.

Yes, but under Project 2025, people that cannot afford Medicare Advantage will be subsidizes. 

 

And you know that Biden and now Kamala both want to mean test Social Security, so wealthy business owners like you won't get it. 

 

What is evil is people like you that misrepresent the truth. 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Your remarks are off-topic.

 

The topic is Trump's plan to change the relationship between POTUS and DOJ.

 

So, do you approve of Trump's plan to exercise operational control over DOJ?

Answer my questions, and I'll answer yours.

[TedG]

 

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Medicare Part D would be required to raise prices on Prescription drugs.

 

People would be forced into Medicare Advantage.

 

Project 2025's authors have called for raising the Social Security retirement age.

 

Project 2025 is evil. Now we are just debating how evil it is.

There is nothing in Project 2025 about raising the retirement age for Social Security.  Yes or No? 

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, but under Project 2025, people that cannot afford Medicare Advantage will be subsidizes. 

 

And you know that Biden and now Kamala both want to mean test Social Security, so wealthy business owners like you won't get it. 

 

What is evil is people like you that misrepresent the truth. 

 

Former President Donald Trump and current President Joe Biden issued opposing views on the future of Social Security on Monday.

 

While Trump suggested the possibility of cutting "entitlements" on CNBC's "Squawk Box," Biden issued a 2025 budget proposal that states, "No benefit cuts."

 

 

Edited July 30 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, TedG said:

 

There is nothing in Project 2025 about raising the retirement age for Social Security.  Yes or No? 

The authors of Project 2025 advocate raising the retirement age.

[TedG]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The authors of Project 2025 advocate raising the retirement age.

 

You lack the humility to admit that you are wrong. 

[Danderman123]

Just now, TedG said:

 

You lack the humility to admit that you are wrong. 

Yes, I confused what the authors of Project wrote in their manifesto as opposed to what they wrote in other policy platforms.

 

 

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, susanlea said:

Successful cult leading the polls. The loser woke cult isn't doing so well.

Watch and learn.

 

Kamala Harris is surging in the polls.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Watch and learn.

 

Kamala Harris is surging in the polls.

Fake news from the left.

[TedG]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Yes, I confused what the authors of Project wrote in their manifesto as opposed to what they wrote in other policy platforms.

 

 

And I proved you wrong and will continue to prove you wrong. 

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Yes, I confused what the authors of Project wrote in their manifesto as opposed to what they wrote in other policy platforms.

 

 

Fake news.

[susanlea]

Just now, TedG said:

And I proved you wrong and will continue to prove you wrong. 

I proved him wrong also.

[susanlea]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/kamala-harris/

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

Fake news from the left.

United States Harris holds onto 1 point lead over Trump in latest Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

Vice President Harris has erased former President Trump’s lead in seven key battleground states roughly a week after becoming the likely Democratic nominee.

 

Harris leads Trump by one point, 47% to 46%, with 4% of voters selecting “someone else” and 4% undecided, in Morning Consult’s weekly poll taken July 26-28, the second week in a row the poll has shown her leading Trump.

 

 

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

And I proved you wrong and will continue to prove you wrong. 

So, do you approve of Project 2025?

[susanlea]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

United States Harris holds onto 1 point lead over Trump in latest Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

Vice President Harris has erased former President Trump’s lead in seven key battleground states roughly a week after becoming the likely Democratic nominee.

 

Harris leads Trump by one point, 47% to 46%, with 4% of voters selecting “someone else” and 4% undecided, in Morning Consult’s weekly poll taken July 26-28, the second week in a row the poll has shown her leading Trump.

 

 

Cherry picking 

 

Average polling has Trump in front and $1.50 favourite.

[susanlea]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

So, do you approve of Project 2025?

Fake news plus trolling. Nothing to do with Trump.

[realfunster]

I don't have a horse in this race but I do take note of those who throw around the words fascism/communism in an infantile manner. Not only objectively incorrectly applied as an attack on your respective opponent but also disrespectful to those who have suffered at the hands of genuinely fascist and communist regimes.

 

Grow up, engage brain/critical thinking and get a life. Really. You're embarrassing yourselves.

[Danderman123]

15 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

He was not selected to bring anything; he was selected to replace Trump in 2028. 

 

The cat ladies would have voted for Trump had he selected someone else? 

 

Rust belt workers will certainly be impressed with the authenticity of Kamala. 

 

You think JD Vance will be the GOP nominee in 2028?

 

What are you drinking?

[Danderman123]

20 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Cherry picking 

 

Average polling has Trump in front and $1.50 favourite.

I am posting recent polls.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, realfunster said:

I don't have a horse in this race but I do take note of those who throw around the words fascism/communism in an infantile manner. Not only objectively incorrectly applied as an attack on your respective opponent but also disrespectful to those who have suffered at the hands of genuinely fascist and communist regimes.

 

Grow up, engage brain/critical thinking and get a life. Really. You're embarrassing yourselves.

You obviously haven't actually studied the Project 2025 agenda. It's a blueprint for American fascism. You're one of those "it can't happen here (USA)" denialists. Of course it can. It is happening. Even defeating Trump won't be the end of their movement.

[susanlea]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You obviously haven't actually studied the Project 2025 agenda. It's a blueprint for American fascism. You're one of those "it can't happen here (USA)" denialists. Of course it can. It is happening. Even defeating Trump won't be the end of their movement.

 Nothing to do with JD Vance. Just left wing trolling.

[susanlea]

16 minutes ago, realfunster said:

I don't have a horse in this race but I do take note of those who throw around the words fascism/communism in an infantile manner. Not only objectively incorrectly applied as an attack on your respective opponent but also disrespectful to those who have suffered at the hands of genuinely fascist and communist regimes.

 

Grow up, engage brain/critical thinking and get a life. Really. You're embarrassing yourselves.

That's how people from the left argue these days. When they disagree with people they pull out the fascist card etc. It just makes them look stupid.