17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Biden did open the border (to illegal aliens) when he got into office and canceled all the Trump era border polices. Biden recently closed the border (to illegal aliens) recently for the election. 

 

If it is genuinely that easy...........why didn't Biden....or Trump for that matter....... just close the border?

Just now, FinChin67 said:

Under democrats it took just three years to go from "build back better" to "at least you're not starving to death."

 

Yes! I saw a Trump interview yesterday .....he said 70% of US citizens now live in poverty.....is that true?

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Yes! I saw a Trump interview yesterday .....he said 70% of US citizens now live in poverty.....is that true?

65% are depressed about their future

2 minutes ago, maesariang said:

65% are depressed about their future

 

With Trump not doing too badly in the polls I'm surprised that figure isn't much higher.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

With Trump not doing too badly in the polls I'm surprised that figure isn't much higher.

Biden and Harris caused it

 

 

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

Biden and Harris caused it

 

 

 

Remind me...when did covid hit and the world's supply chains get all b******d up?

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

If it is genuinely that easy...........why didn't Biden....or Trump for that matter....... just close the border?

Trump did for the most part, and the left (and the chamber of commerce right) fought him every step of the way. Every regulation and every inch of the wall in court. 

 

All the polices that Trump implement, Biden reversed.

 

And Biden recently reversed most of them back to shut the flood down for the election. 

 

It is not a difficult issue. It's just that the left, and a few on the right, want it open, and everyone else wants it closed. 

 

Illegal immigration benefits the rich and hurts the poor. It grows government and dependence on government, it destroys communities (the rich ones of course) and it dilutes the culture and destroys the rule of law. 

 

You seem to think it's all funny, I don't.

 

 

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Remind me...when did covid hit and the world's supply chains get all b******d up?

Covid hit in January 2020. 1 year before Biden.

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Yes! I saw a Trump interview yesterday .....he said 70% of US citizens now live in poverty.....is that true?

It depends on how you define poverty, of course. Do you have a direct quote? 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Remind me...when did covid hit and the world's supply chains get all b******d up?

Covid hit a year before Trump left office. 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Trump did for the most part, and the left (and the chamber of commerce right) fought him every step of the way. Every regulation and every inch of the wall in court. 

 

All the polices that Trump implement, Biden reversed.

 

And Biden recently reversed most of them back to shut the flood down for the election. 

 

It is not a difficult issue. It's just that the left, and a few on the right, want it open, and everyone else wants it closed. 

 

Illegal immigration benefits the rich and hurts the poor. It grows government and dependence on government, it destroys communities (the rich ones of course) and it dilutes the culture and destroys the rule of law. 

 

You seem to think it's all funny, I don't.

 

 

 

Why do you think I find it's funny?

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Covid hit a year before Trump left office. 

 

 

.......and then the after effects hit.....as they did every nation on earth

 

UK cumulative inflation 20% plus

 

EU cumulative inflation 20% plus

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

.......and then the after effects hit.....as they did every nation on earth

 

UK cumulative inflation 20% plus

 

EU cumulative inflation 20% plus

And it is still 50% over target in the US. 

 

Printing money and pumping it into the economy causes inflation. Trump did it, Biden did it more. 

 

In any event, my issues are illegal immigration, education and rule of law. 

 

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

.......and then the after effects hit.....as they did every nation on earth

 

UK cumulative inflation 20% plus

 

EU cumulative inflation 20% plus

So if others are bad thats ok 

12 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

.......and then the after effects hit.....as they did every nation on earth

 

UK cumulative inflation 20% plus

 

EU cumulative inflation 20% plus

 

 

The US is not the EU or the UK.   Do you think Biden adding more spending on top of the COVID spending was a good idea? 

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump has the same access to poverty data as anyone else. So why would he get it wrong?

 

Was he lying, or is he mentally challenged?

So let me see if got this correct, If it is Trump or GOP it is a lie, If it is Harris/Biden or Democrat, they only misspoke, Ok I got it. 

11 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Why do you think I find it's funny?

Because I have been round and round with you on a number of issues and you do not seem to be serious. You get asked a serious question and make a joke and run away. 

 

I go back to the area where I grew up, and it looks like a third world country. 

34 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Covid hit in January 2020. 1 year before Biden.

 

32 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Covid hit a year before Trump left office. 

But you do understand in simple terms there are 2 phases of covid. The period where economy is somewhat shut down - low demand for oil - inflation low of course - and the latter phase when everything has to recover - that's the part with the supply issues and all that Trump spending. Biden did add a bit to inflation as he went on an early spending spree - not unreasonably thinking the economy needed help to get going again - but most concur  the after effect of Covid was by far the biggest effect. A form of evidence of that is that inflation was world wide rather than in the States only. 

Edited August 25, 20241 yr by Fat is a type of crazy

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

DNC Bump?: Harris extends lead over Trump with base built on youth vote

 

New data taken during the Democratic National Convention from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute finds Kamala Harris extending her national lead over Donald Trump among registered voters. The current vice president has a base built of support from 18- to 34-year-olds (59% Harris to 30% Trump), Blacks (67% to 16%) and Hispanics (57% to 33%). Trump, meanwhile, is the preferred choice among those older than 54 (49% to 40%) and whites (51% to 39%).

Non-profit i.e. progressive

2 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

But you do understand in simple terms there are 2 phases of covid. The period where economy is somewhat shut down - low demand for oil - inflation low of course - and the latter phase when everything has to recover - that's the part with the supply issues and all that Trump spending. Biden did add a bit to inflation as he went on an early spending spree - not unreasonably thinking the economy needed help to get going again - but most concur  the after effect of Covid was by far the biggest effect. A form of evidence of that is that inflation was world wide rather than in the States only. 

So many excuses.

2 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

But you do understand in simple terms there are 2 phases of covid. The period where economy is somewhat shut down - low demand for oil - inflation low of course - and the latter phase when everything has to recover - that's the part with the supply issues and all that Trump spending. Biden did add a bit to inflation as he went on an early spending spree - not unreasonably thinking the economy needed help to get going again - but most concur  the after effect of Covid was by far the biggest effect. A form of evidence of that is that inflation was world wide rather than in the States only. 

It is a myth that inflation was worldwide. Plenty of countries di fine, and many more are down to where they were pre-covid, unlike the US.

As an American ...this is SO F÷==*/ING EMBARRASSING.....anyways she had

3 and a half years to fix $hit..dumb arse Americans

.YOU just have to laugh

 

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, RT555 said:

As an American ...this is SO F÷==*/ING EMBARRASSING.....anyways she had

3 and a half years to fix $hit..dumb arse Americans

.YOU just have to laugh

 

 

 

 

 

Trump had 4 years and still didn't fix $hit..so yeah must laugh

If Harris is elected, no dout the current tensions all over will end up in WW3.

15 hours ago, marin said:

A month ago I had respect for you as a dissident voice that was reasonable. But over the last few weeks that has changed as you are spouting poop.  Lets just have a small comparison of Trump and Kamala's physique. 

 

Who is the phat <deleted>?

 

 

Only one of them is the topic and it's not the guy.

Yawn.

9 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

If it is genuinely that easy...........why didn't Biden....or Trump for that matter....... just close the border?

Weird post. Trump was attempting to do so with the wall, but Biden cancelled it. Trump had agreements with Mexico and Biden cancelled them. Common knowledge.

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

It is a myth that inflation was worldwide. Plenty of countries di fine, and many more are down to where they were pre-covid, unlike the US.

Not a myth. Most developed nations inflation surged and had been higher in 2023 compared to 2020.   This article spells it out pretty well with references as well. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021–2023_inflation_surge

Accept Biden has to cop some responsibility but hard to see what Trump would have done different. 

Edited August 25, 20241 yr by Fat is a type of crazy

10 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Yes! I saw a Trump interview yesterday .....he said 70% of US citizens now live in poverty.....is that true?

 

As usual, it depends on how you define poverty.

 

US Census says its 11.5%

 

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/stories/poverty-awareness-month.html

 

I don't know where Trumpf got 70% from. Apparently 70% of US households have at least one pet:

 

https://vet-advantage.com/companion-news/70-of-u-s-households-have-pets-appa-finds-in-new-survey/

 

Maybe he thinks more people should have more pets, like bald eagles.

 

 

 

Perhaps he was thinking of this survey;

 

https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/high-prices-and-interest-rates-leave-70-of-americans-doubting-home-ownership-in-2024

 

Somewhat related

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/12/renters-poll-owning-home

 

Its sort of flawed. Renters might well say they can't afford a house, but people owning a home will obviously say they can afford a home. But Generation Rent is a thing, but does that mean they are in poverty because they rent?

 

 

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

It is a myth that inflation was worldwide. Plenty of countries di fine, and many more are down to where they were pre-covid, unlike the US.

 

https://gfmag.com/data/economic-data/worlds-highest-lowest-inflation-rates/

 

Quote

Two years ago, inflation reached a 40-year high in the United States. Globally, it grew in 179 out of 194 nations compared to 2020. Since then inflation’s global growth slowed, prompting hopes that prices paid by consumers would soon return to normal.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1034154/monthly-inflation-rates-developed-emerging-countries/

 

I think you have mixed up Russia with the United States.

 

 

10 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

But you do understand in simple terms there are 2 phases of covid. The period where economy is somewhat shut down - low demand for oil - inflation low of course - and the latter phase when everything has to recover - that's the part with the supply issues and all that Trump spending. Biden did add a bit to inflation as he went on an early spending spree - not unreasonably thinking the economy needed help to get going again - but most concur  the after effect of Covid was by far the biggest effect. A form of evidence of that is that inflation was world wide rather than in the States only. 

 

While we are in a period of disinflation, inflation is likely to return by Q1 next year, as wage increases start to kick in. At some point, peoples salaries have to catch up, but it will be short lived.

 

Afghanistan didn't have any inflation. Prices are -7%. Yellowtail maybe thinks the US should emulate the economic performance of the Emirate of Afghanistan.