Thai Girl is almost perfect but are these serious problems?

[FritsSikkink]

On 7/29/2024 at 1:22 PM, Cameroni said:

Overall I think you're right though, it would be foolish to just look at looks. I just have not found a major in her character, apart from the lack of inclination for physical affection.

If you don't mind to get an STD, what is there to worry about.

[retarius]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

My gf told me this and I did not believe it. She also said that her mother prohibited her uncle from sitting with the girls in case anything untoward happens. 

 

I think morally Thais are much harder than many other SE Asians, like Filipinos. Though perhaps less than North Sumatrans.

Thais wai as a greeting. Europeans used to shake hands as physical contact. Eurotrash not follow the Americans and the French by hugging and kissing. Thais have their own culture ands are not obliged to follow western cultural norms. Plus from what I have seen Thai families are much closer than Euro families. They look after the aged parents whereas the fashion in the west is that your parents getting old shouldn't alter your schedule or finances. Selfish. 

[retarius]

31 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Not rich, just normal guy. I gave her 2000 Baht a week at the start to compensate for her loss of income from her factory job. However, I realised quickly she just sends all that money to her mother. So I stopped giving her an allowance. And she's not been asking. She doesn't like to do that.

Tightwad, Cheap Charlie is what she tells her girlfriends. Thai girls look after their parents and their parent often look after their kids 24/7. 

[FritsSikkink]

On 7/29/2024 at 1:42 PM, Cameroni said:

 

She had a job when I met her, she worked in a factory. I told her come to live with me, and she did. She also studied law at university.

 

I'm guessing she met him on a dating site, but then shacked up with him on an island. It quickly became apparent he was sex obsessed and after he insisted she do a threesome she broke up with him.

Why doesn't she finish law school and get a proper job.

[4MyEgo]

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Thanks it's moderate jealousy, just jokingly checking my phone and saying I have a message, no Fatal Attraction stuff.

 

Your welcome, checking your phone and saying you have a message isn't moderate to me, suffice to say my wife has never, ever checked my mobile, I talk to a lot of people and am texting a lot, the same applies for me, I don't check her mobile, suffice to say, you either have trust, or you don't, and if you believe women in general, especially Thai woman, are not jealous, then start setting baited traps, e.g. next time your out, and you see a pretty girl, say out load, wow, she is hot, 99% will guarantee you she will let you see her jealousy in my opinion.

 

I say things like that when I'm out with my wife, and she will say something back to me like, you dirty old man, with a smile on her face.

 

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

That's why I wanted to get some views, because like you say when  you're in the rel it can cloud your judgement or perspective.

 

That's why I am coming back again to you, but at the end of the day, you are in the relationship, you know the girl, to the extent she will allow you to know her, remember, she is 24, and they are cunning.

 

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She also seems to love her space. Affection is taught to some degree by the parents I think and sadly she grew up without her father since he died, and the mother was absent a lot, so there is a bit of a deficit there. If she is "into me" or not, well she does come over the bed and initiates certain things, she enjoys sex, but in terms of being cuddly and holding hands, kissing, she is just not. I think some people are, some are not, some are a bit, it's a bit of spectrum. I'm super physical, and that was bothering me for a bit.

 

Parent stories here are pretty much the same, the deficit could be as you say, do as I do when I want a hug, walk up to her, open arms and see how she responds, if she gives you a hug, then all and good, just remember it will you who will have to instigate the affection to get it in return. 

 

Thai women know to keep a man, they have to perform, i.e. keep him happy, holding hands, kissing, I think this would all depend on whether your handsome, ugly or older, that said, my wife didn't like holding hands in public or kissing at first, told me Thai's didn't do that (2 decades ago), frowned upon, so I accepted that, once married, she didn't care much what people thought. 

 

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No, I have not seen the degree, since she did not finish it, but she did talk about her sister getting proof of her attending the university at one point, so I don't think it's bs. She had problems paying the 20000 for the course, because nobody was helping her, she had to work to pay for it. I think that was very hard for her.

 

Bs comes in many forms, but hey, it's trivial regarding her studying, but if it is Bs, then expect more to follow, face value to a degree. DO NOT TRUST, she has to earn your trust, unfortunately most guys trust, that's when they fall. My wife has earned my trust 1,000 times over, as I had baited her for years, even deposited 4,200 baht in her account the other day to pay the electricity, she transferred 1,200 baht back to my account saying the 4,200 baht was for the month before, this months was 3,000. My wallet has always had the same amount in it when I leave it. I trust her, but at the same time, I like to keep her honest, and she hasn't failed me, no reason to, but you never know really, human's can change at a wim.

 

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I appreciate the advice, I will not go overboard, like I did before. I had a very bad experience with a Filipina and that cured me of the love fantasy thing.

 

Welcome, yes, no need to go overboard, I see a woman as a partner, I do not spoil her, I treat her with respect, provide her with love and security, she knows what she has to do for me, i.e. treat me with respect, it's a two way street, once you start to go overboard, then you have raised the bar and cannot lower it.

 

Will say it again, only invest as much as your prepared to lose, that said, I have know guys as comfortable in marriage as I have been and longer than I have been, then all of a sudden out of the woodwork, these guys found out that the wife had a separate lover, or was a gambler or, or, or.

 

Don't get paranoid, just be aware and careful, last thing you want is to get hurt and lose $'s.

 

[SouthThailand]

Topic sounds like the Seinfeld tractor story to me

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

Thais wai as a greeting. Europeans used to shake hands as physical contact. Eurotrash not follow the Americans and the French by hugging and kissing. Thais have their own culture ands are not obliged to follow western cultural norms. Plus from what I have seen Thai families are much closer than Euro families. They look after the aged parents whereas the fashion in the west is that your parents getting old shouldn't alter your schedule or finances. Selfish. 

 

Absolutely, I love that the Thais have their own cultural norms. It just makes it harder to teach the Thai girl all the porn star things she will have to do with Farangs generally.

 

Thai families are much closer, because of the prevalent poverty. Dependence on family is higher for longer. People in the west look after their parents, just not as closely as Thais, it's a fair point.

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

Tightwad, Cheap Charlie is what she tells her girlfriends. Thai girls look after their parents and their parent often look after their kids 24/7. 

 

Possibly, but the way I see it I do not have to look after her parents. The money I earn is not for her parents.

 

Girlfriends really do talk like this, btw, I had access to my previous Filipina's facebook and there was a convo with a girlfriend where they were asking how much each was getting out of the boyfriend financially for their families.

[Cameroni]

55 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Your welcome, checking your phone and saying you have a message isn't moderate to me, suffice to say my wife has never, ever checked my mobile, I talk to a lot of people and am texting a lot, the same applies for me, I don't check her mobile, suffice to say, you either have trust, or you don't, and if you believe women in general, especially Thai woman, are not jealous, then start setting baited traps, e.g. next time your out, and you see a pretty girl, say out load, wow, she is hot, 99% will guarantee you she will let you see her jealousy in my opinion.

 

I say things like that when I'm out with my wife, and she will say something back to me like, you dirty old man, with a smile on her face.

 

 

That's why I am coming back again to you, but at the end of the day, you are in the relationship, you know the girl, to the extent she will allow you to know her, remember, she is 24, and they are cunning.

 

 

Parent stories here are pretty much the same, the deficit could be as you say, do as I do when I want a hug, walk up to her, open arms and see how she responds, if she gives you a hug, then all and good, just remember it will you who will have to instigate the affection to get it in return. 

 

Thai women know to keep a man, they have to perform, i.e. keep him happy, holding hands, kissing, I think this would all depend on whether your handsome, ugly or older, that said, my wife didn't like holding hands in public or kissing at first, told me Thai's didn't do that (2 decades ago), frowned upon, so I accepted that, once married, she didn't care much what people thought. 

 

 

Bs comes in many forms, but hey, it's trivial regarding her studying, but if it is Bs, then expect more to follow, face value to a degree. DO NOT TRUST, she has to earn your trust, unfortunately most guys trust, that's when they fall. My wife has earned my trust 1,000 times over, as I had baited her for years, even deposited 4,200 baht in her account the other day to pay the electricity, she transferred 1,200 baht back to my account saying the 4,200 baht was for the month before, this months was 3,000. My wallet has always had the same amount in it when I leave it. I trust her, but at the same time, I like to keep her honest, and she hasn't failed me, no reason to, but you never know really, human's can change at a wim.

 

 

Welcome, yes, no need to go overboard, I see a woman as a partner, I do not spoil her, I treat her with respect, provide her with love and security, she knows what she has to do for me, i.e. treat me with respect, it's a two way street, once you start to go overboard, then you have raised the bar and cannot lower it.

 

Will say it again, only invest as much as your prepared to lose, that said, I have know guys as comfortable in marriage as I have been and longer than I have been, then all of a sudden out of the woodwork, these guys found out that the wife had a separate lover, or was a gambler or, or, or.

 

Don't get paranoid, just be aware and careful, last thing you want is to get hurt and lose $'s.

 

All very sound, would totally agree. There is nothing more beautiful than a woman you can trust. This is one of the most important things with this girl, that she is very trustworthy so far. Of course early days and you have to keep your eyes open, things can always change. Blind trust is foolish. But if a girl is really not trustworthy you can usually tell quickly, sadly not always, some can hide it really well, but it will come out.

[john donson]

law student, what, for a week and dropped out to go work in 'the factory'

 

weird

[CG1 Blue]

23 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yah, that is exactly it, I have a table in the living room and she sits at the table, watching youtube videos or playing games on her phone. It seemed so odd to me. I will see if getting a bigger more comfortable couch helps.

She's 24, which is probably the equivalent of a 16 year old in the west in terms of maturity. Most Thai girls from the sticks are still very childish at 24, hence she's playing on her phone all the time. 

This might also explain why she's shy about cuddling up with you. 

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

She's 24, which is probably the equivalent of a 16 year old in the west in terms of maturity. Most Thai girls from the sticks are still very childish at 24, hence she's playing on her phone all the time. 

This might also explain why she's shy about cuddling up with you. 

Good point, she is extremely childish. 

[Cameroni]

3 hours ago, john donson said:

law student, what, for a week and dropped out to go work in 'the factory'

 

weird

I think it was a year, she kept having to work to pay for her university as nobody was supporting her. It just got too hard I think.

[NowNow]

9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

no way your "relationship" is real, too nerdy to get anyone decent

 

Decent beyond your wildest dreams. All of my relationships are real and NONE have ever been based on money. 

We do what we are used to doing. What comes naturally. I connect with women in a way that someone like you will not ever be able to do. 

It's no surprise to me that you are here trying to denigrate the OP with regard to his relationship. Bitter about your own experiences. Hence your comments that reflect your own experience.

Incredulous that good relationships actually exist. People who continue to experience good relationships would not ever write the way you do.

Not that I am speaking for the OP, as the relationship as he describes it would not be one that I would enter. It's somewhat akin to a relationship I had with a woman in her twenties when I was fifteen to sixteen. She bought me clothes, jewellery, gave me money...

Another thing that I know is not to judge someone by what they write here. If you met me you would likely swallow your tongue 😊

 

[Cameroni]

55 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Not that I am speaking for the OP, as the relationship as he describes it would not be one that I would enter. It's somewhat akin to a relationship I had with a woman in her twenties when I was fifteen to sixteen. She bought me clothes, jewellery, gave me money...

 

I wish she would buy me some nice clothes. Not even a T-shirt, mate. 

[NowNow]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I wish she would buy me some nice clothes. Not even a T-shirt, mate. 

 

From what income?

[Cameroni]

6 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

From what income?

 

Well she sends the money I gave her to her mother. She could have spent on me. 

[brianthainess]

On 7/29/2024 at 12:19 PM, NowNow said:

 

She worked in a restaurant and lived alone.  Rent was 2,000 baht per month. Teddy bear, flowers etc

It's different when the girl actually likes you...

They sound like gifts a male customer gave her at the supposed restaurant, and we all know what the ETC was, she gave you that too...........

[BritManToo]

15 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

She's 24, which is probably the equivalent of a 16 year old in the west in terms of maturity. Most Thai girls from the sticks are still very childish at 24, hence she's playing on her phone all the time. 

This might also explain why she's shy about cuddling up with you. 

My misses is 47 and still plays all day on her phone, come to think of it ....... I'm posting from my phone at age 68 ..........

 

Now if you're posting from a pc, is that really any different to playing on a phone?

[BritManToo]

42 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

. I know you can't fathom what a relationship means, because yours are transactions. Us helping our partners aren't transactions but care. 

I always thought a relationship is when a woman lives off a man full time, pretends to love him, and he pretends it's real!

[Cameroni]

On 7/29/2024 at 7:19 AM, NowNow said:

 

She worked in a restaurant and lived alone.  Rent was 2,000 baht per month. Teddy bear, flowers etc

It's different when the girl actually likes you...

I don't think it's about the girl liking you, it's just a question of whether the girl is a giving girl or not. Some girls are more giving than others. It's nice when you get a girl like that, I had that before too, they buy you expensive cologne or other things. But it just means she's a giving girl it doesn't mean a girl who likes you has to give you presents. A girl can like you and not give you presents, that's actually more of the norm, women are takers normally, not givers.

[Celsius]

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I don't think it's about the girl liking you, it's just a question of whether the girl is a giving girl or not. Some girls are more giving than others. It's nice when you get a girl like that, I had that before too, they buy you expensive cologne or other things. But it just means she's a giving girl it doesn't mean a girl who likes you has to give you presents. A girl can like you and not give you presents, that's actually more of the norm, women are takers normally, not givers.

 

 

Maybe you should just accept that for now she does not know how to get anything better (for her) and is with you for free housing, meals, clothes and pocket change.

 

One thing is for sure.... she has many friends, and they are all asking her questions you can't even imagine.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I always thought a relationship is when a woman lives off a man full time, pretends to love him, and he pretends it's real!

That's happened to many of us, but mutual is always better. Sadly, most never get that real closeness because of jealousy, greed, arguments over nonsense and unrealistic expectations.

[NowNow]

11 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

They sound like gifts a male customer gave her at the supposed restaurant, and we all know what the ETC was, she gave you that too...........

 

She wasn't working at a restaurant when she found me. She got the job after I told her there was no chance to be with me without visible means of support. Your type are just very sad failures for when it comes to real relationships. You can only project your failures and P4P experiences on to others.

Some of us kept our standards and continue to reap the rewards. If your girl knows you have high standards, she'll be proud and confident to walk alongside.

It seems that you don't have a clue...

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Celsius said:

 

 

Maybe you should just accept that for now she does not know how to get anything better and is with you for free housing, meals, clothes and pocket change.

 

One thing is for sure.... she has many friends, and they are all asking her questions you can't even imagine.

Maybe she can't get something better and understands that, so she's showing he can trust her. Her friends, especially here, with all the crapola about what farangs are and what we have, can sway a young girl, but if she can think for herself, she will ignore most of the gossip, because much of it revolves around jealousy. Many "friends" aren't happy in their relationships and misery loves company so..........

[thesetat2013]

On 7/29/2024 at 4:44 AM, CharlieKo said:

Don't expect a western attitude to romance from a Thai Lady. It can take years before they will show affection. 

Not necessarily true.. All the thai girls i ever met liked and wanted more shows of affection this way because the thai man does not do it. 

[Celsius]

1 minute ago, NowNow said:

Some of us kept our standards and continue to reap the rewards. If your girl knows you have high standards, she'll be proud and confident to walk alongside.

 

Amen.

 

Some loseros here don't seem to get this. They think the more you pay them the more they "respect" you.

 

 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

Amen.

 

Some loseros here don't seem to get this. They think the more you pay them the more they "respect" you.

 

 

Nah, you have to pay them the right amount. If you overpay they will have nothing but contempt for you.

 

[NowNow]

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I don't think it's about the girl liking you, it's just a question of whether the girl is a giving girl or not. Some girls are more giving than others. It's nice when you get a girl like that, I had that before too, they buy you expensive cologne or other things. But it just means she's a giving girl it doesn't mean a girl who likes you has to give you presents. A girl can like you and not give you presents, that's actually more of the norm, women are takers normally, not givers.

 

Erm...no. If she's not giving, she not your girlfriend....or at least not mine. You are just keeping her. A sugar daddy perhaps.

I cannot recall a girlfriend who didn't buy me things or pay for things, other than my first as an early teen...and that was because she didn't have an income. She made up for it in other ways, pampering me and contributing to good childhood memories. Other than that, girls buying stuff for you/giving gifts is the norm.

[NowNow]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Maybe she can't get something better and understands that, so she's showing he can trust her. Her friends, especially here, with all the crapola about what farangs are and what we have, can sway a young girl, but if she can think for herself, she will ignore most of the gossip, because much of it revolves around jealousy. Many "friends" aren't happy in their relationships and misery loves company so..........

 

You can see examples of those 'miseries' on this thread. It's not just the girls.