5 minutes ago, superal said:

Wrong . When the UK was an EU member and were flooded with European workers , under the free movement of labour , many local UK workers were put out of work because of cheap labour from Europe . Not only did they lose their jobs but houses too . Large corporations are driving migration globally to increase their profits . Behind the scenes lobbying from big money businesses are controlling governments . 

 

 

...and no one responds better to their inducements than the Tories.....the main beneficiaries of massive profit making organisations..

21 minutes ago, superal said:

Wrong . When the UK was an EU member and were flooded with European workers , under the free movement of labour , many local UK workers were put out of work because of cheap labour from Europe . Not only did they lose their jobs but houses too . Large corporations are driving migration globally to increase their profits . Behind the scenes lobbying from big money businesses are controlling governments . 

Can you please explain what is "wrong" with what I have said?

24 minutes ago, superal said:

Wrong . When the UK was an EU member and were flooded with European workers , under the free movement of labour , many local UK workers were put out of work because of cheap labour from Europe . Not only did they lose their jobs but houses too . Large corporations are driving migration globally to increase their profits . Behind the scenes lobbying from big money businesses are controlling governments . 

 

Good job we stopped it......

 

The UK’s participation in the European Union’s free movement policy had several economic benefits. Here are some of the key ways in which the UK benefited economically from free movement while it was a member of the EU:

 

1. Labor Market Flexibility:

• Access to Labor: Free movement allowed UK employers to access a larger pool of workers from across the EU. This was particularly beneficial in sectors with labor shortages, such as healthcare, agriculture, construction, and hospitality.

• Skill Gaps: Skilled workers from the EU filled gaps in the UK labor market, contributing to sectors such as finance, technology, and academia.

2. Economic Growth:

• Contribution to GDP: EU migrants contributed positively to the UK economy. Studies have shown that EU migrants tended to be younger and more economically active than the native population, which helped boost productivity and economic growth.

• Entrepreneurship: Many EU nationals started businesses in the UK, creating jobs and stimulating economic activity.

3. Public Finances:

• Net Contribution: Research indicated that EU migrants contributed more in taxes than they received in benefits and public services. This positive net fiscal contribution helped support public finances.

4. Trade and Investment:

• Single Market Access: Free movement was part of the broader EU Single Market, which allowed for the seamless movement of goods, services, capital, and people. This facilitated trade and investment, benefiting the UK economy.

• Foreign Direct Investment (FDI): The ability to attract talent from across the EU made the UK a more attractive destination for foreign investors, particularly in industries that rely on a diverse and skilled workforce.

5. Cultural and Social Benefits:

• Cultural Exchange: The free movement of people also brought cultural and social benefits, enriching UK society and fostering greater understanding and cooperation within Europe.

6. Education and Research:

• Academic Collaboration: Free movement facilitated academic and research collaborations between UK universities and their EU counterparts, enhancing the UK’s research output and innovation capabilities.

• Student Mobility: Programs like Erasmus allowed UK students to study in EU countries and vice versa, broadening educational opportunities and fostering international networks.

There's more trouble looming it is expected the Illegal immigrants are to be given empty houses so they can be moved out of Hotels. Don't think they will be run down houses that cant be sold they will be fully brought up to date for them costing millions up n down the Country.

Meanwhile 2 tier keir his new nickname has began jailing thugs one was jailed for Assaulting a policeman. The Muslim who assaulted the police at Manchester Airport breaking a females nose has not even been charged. Instead a press conference was arranged for them where they blamed it all on Qatar airways and the Police not one of them wanted to answer questions about striking a female Police officer. 

35 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

There's more trouble looming it is expected the Illegal immigrants are to be given empty houses so they can be moved out of Hotels. Don't think they will be run down houses that cant be sold they will be fully brought up to date for them costing millions up n down the Country.

Not doubting you, as that sounds stupid enough for the globalist knobs in charge.  But do you have a link, to look at the details?

 

Back to Tommy,i just watched silenced.

To the UK guys.

Would it be true or false that the council payed 275,000 pounds in NDA's with the school debacle?

1 hour ago, farmerjo said:

Back to Tommy,i just watched silenced.

To the UK guys.

Would it be true or false that the council payed 275,000 pounds in NDA's with the school debacle?

True of course,   did you think otherwise?

9 hours ago, impulse said:

Not doubting you, as that sounds stupid enough for the globalist knobs in charge.  But do you have a link, to look at the details?

You can probably google it , they have even given it an official name     "operation scatter"

Labour accused of 'putting illegal migrants ahead of Britons' in housing queue

Reform and Tories have taken aim at Labour over its plans to move asylum seekers across the country.

 

By Steph Spyro, Environment Editor and Senior Political Correspondent

15:23, Tue, Aug 6, 2024 | UPDATED: 17:08, Tue, Aug 6, 2024

Starmer always has an expression on his face that implies he's just poked his finger through the toilet paper

No shortage of reports about the new hospitality initiative

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/labour-accused-of-putting-illegal-migrants-ahead-of-britons-in-housing-queue/ar-AA1okxfM

 

Personally I don't think its anything new, its been going on for years.   I think the "government appointed contractors" are struggling to find suitable accommodation.  Nothing but the best is now acceptable for our guests following complaints about standards by people who appear to have left a life of luxury behind them to get to the UK. or rather complaints made on their behalf by the lawyers we provide for them

Illegal immigration into the UK (which everyone is focussed on) is almost insignificant when compared with LEGAL immigration. Legal immigration has rocketed since Brexit, when the immigration rules were changed.

 

"In the year ending (YE) December 2023, the provisional estimate of long-term immigration to the UK was 1,218,000, which is broadly similar to our updated estimate for the YE December 2022 (1,257,000) (Figure 1).

Looking at the historical picture, until 2019, EU nationals were the larger component of total long-term immigration, whereas since 2021, when the new immigration system was introduced and free movement ended for EU nationals, the majority of immigration now comprises non-EU nationals. In our latest estimates for the YE December 2023, non-EU nationals accounted for 85% (1,031,000) of total long-term immigration. This is similar to levels seen in the YE December 2022.

The top five non-EU nationalities for long-term immigration flows into the UK in the YE December 2023 were Indian (250,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (90,000), Pakistani (83,000) and Zimbabwean (36,000)"

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/longterminternationalmigrationprovisional/yearendingdecember2023#:~:text=In the year ending (YE) December 2023%2C the provisional,1%2C257%2C000) (Figure 1).

 

So the UK Home Office are issuing around 23000 long-term immigration visas PER WEEK - about ten every minute of each working day...

 

 

5 minutes ago, HauptmannUK said:

Illegal immigration into the UK (which everyone is focussed on) is almost insignificant when compared with LEGAL immigration. Legal immigration has rocketed since Brexit, when the immigration rules were changed.

 

"In the year ending (YE) December 2023, the provisional estimate of long-term immigration to the UK was 1,218,000, which is broadly similar to our updated estimate for the YE December 2022 (1,257,000) (Figure 1).

Looking at the historical picture, until 2019, EU nationals were the larger component of total long-term immigration, whereas since 2021, when the new immigration system was introduced and free movement ended for EU nationals, the majority of immigration now comprises non-EU nationals. In our latest estimates for the YE December 2023, non-EU nationals accounted for 85% (1,031,000) of total long-term immigration. This is similar to levels seen in the YE December 2022.

The top five non-EU nationalities for long-term immigration flows into the UK in the YE December 2023 were Indian (250,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (90,000), Pakistani (83,000) and Zimbabwean (36,000)"

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/longterminternationalmigrationprovisional/yearendingdecember2023#:~:text=In the year ending (YE) December 2023%2C the provisional,1%2C257%2C000) (Figure 1).

 

So the UK Home Office are issuing around 23000 long-term immigration visas PER WEEK - about ten every minute of each working day...

 

 

 

   Many of ,those come to the UK to study and get  limited visas to study at Uni 

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Many of ,those come to the UK to study and get  limited visas to study at Uni 

 

Yes indeed. And many stay in the UK after the conclusion of their studies thanks to the introduction of the 'Post Study Work Visa' following Brexit.

 

Anyway, again from the ONS website and looking at future population growth...

 

"Focusing on the 15 years between mid-2021 and mid-2036, the total projected growth for the UK population is 6.6 million (9.9%). During this period between mid-2021 and mid-2036, the projections for the UK as a whole suggest:

• 10.8 million people will be born

• 10.3 million people will die

• 13.7 million people will immigrate long term to the UK

• 7.6 million people will emigrate long term from the UK

This means that of the projected 6.6 million increase in the total population, 0.5 million (8.2% of the total projected increase) is projected to result from the higher number of births than deaths, and 6.1 million (91.8% of the total projected increase) is projected to result from net international migration."

 

 

On 8/6/2024 at 4:24 PM, tonbridgebrit said:

By the way, is it contradictory  to not want new coloureds entering Britain, and at the same time, to try and get a Thai bird into Britain ?  Well, that's up for debate.   

 You don't get it at all, the concerns about immigration have little to do with  "colour"  and everything to do with the uncontrolled invasion of unidentified military age males who are all followers of the religion of peace  that we are currently are experiencing.  Thai females are not military age muslim men, and historically, have never instigated a terrorist attack in the UK.   So,  no debate needed at all is there.   Or, do you still not get it?   

44 minutes ago, HauptmannUK said:

Illegal immigration into the UK (which everyone is focussed on) is almost insignificant when compared with LEGAL immigration. Legal immigration has rocketed since Brexit, when the immigration rules were changed.

 

"In the year ending (YE) December 2023, the provisional estimate of long-term immigration to the UK was 1,218,000, which is broadly similar to our updated estimate for the YE December 2022 (1,257,000) (Figure 1).

Looking at the historical picture, until 2019, EU nationals were the larger component of total long-term immigration, whereas since 2021, when the new immigration system was introduced and free movement ended for EU nationals, the majority of immigration now comprises non-EU nationals. In our latest estimates for the YE December 2023, non-EU nationals accounted for 85% (1,031,000) of total long-term immigration. This is similar to levels seen in the YE December 2022.

The top five non-EU nationalities for long-term immigration flows into the UK in the YE December 2023 were Indian (250,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (90,000), Pakistani (83,000) and Zimbabwean (36,000)"

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/longterminternationalmigrationprovisional/yearendingdecember2023#:~:text=In the year ending (YE) December 2023%2C the provisional,1%2C257%2C000) (Figure 1).

 

So the UK Home Office are issuing around 23000 long-term immigration visas PER WEEK - about ten every minute of each working day...

 

 

And all whilst refusing to return to the office, Well done !   But , what level of scrutiny do these applications actually  receive (at a rate of one every six seconds), whilst working from home , which actually really just  means whilst  watching porn at the same time

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Many of ,those come to the UK to study and get  limited visas to study at Uni 

HowAs of 10 July, 14,058 people had crossed the Channel in 2024 - above the numbers for the same period in the previous four years. In 2023 as a whole, 29,437 people came to the UK this way.12 Jul 2024 many of these came to train or given work visas Nick ??

This figure was for July this year Nick, how many do you think came to study or were given visas to work bearing in mind they came in a Rubber Dingy.

Edited August 7, 20241 yr by BarraMarra

19 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

HowAs of 10 July, 14,058 people had crossed the Channel in 2024 - above the numbers for the same period in the previous four years. In 2023 as a whole, 29,437 people came to the UK this way.12 Jul 2024 many of these came to train or given work visas Nick ??

This figure was for July this year Nick, how many do you think came to study or were given visas to work bearing in mind they came in a Rubber Dingy.

 

   You are talking about immigrants who cross the channel in dinghies with no visas , we were talking about legal immigration with flights and visas and thing's 

16 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

There's more trouble looming it is expected the Illegal immigrants are to be given empty houses so they can be moved out of Hotels. Don't think they will be run down houses that cant be sold they will be fully brought up to date for them costing millions up n down the Country.

Illegal immigrants don't stay in hotels.

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Illegal immigrants don't stay in hotels.

 

   They are put on hotels up and down  the County , whole hotels have been taken over by them , its the norm in most cities and towns 

Well appears the threat of Terrorism, long prison sentences and have quashed anyone wanting to demonstrate against rampant migration into the UK. Every news station this evening reported no trouble only winners being the Anti Racism supporters who gathered outside Mosques and immigration center's most were holding placards saying were not racists, refugees are welcome, or protect our streets. Some high Muslim areas even told the police we will protect our Mosques by all means because you the Police will not protect us. So it looks like now a message has been sent out saying come your welcome and the already flood gates will open. Churches are already bought and converted into Mosques We have to accept we are defeated and our way of life will now change forever. No Government will address the illegal migrants they have already put an operation into place to disperse all migrants in hotels and move them to homes up and down the country calling it Operation Scatter. So when a family of 4-5 illegals suddenly become your neighbors  don't complain 2 tier will tell you to embrace them.

Edited August 7, 20241 yr by BarraMarra

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They are put on hotels up and down  the County , whole hotels have been taken over by them , its the norm in most cities and towns 

Incorrect.

 

Those in hotels are asylum seekers. Not illegal immigrants.

 

That's the main problem here. People become so blinded by the mis information and propaganda they can't tell the difference between asylum seekers, illegal immigrants or legal immigrants.

Edited August 7, 20241 yr by youreavinalaff

1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said:

Incorrect.

 

Those in hotels are asylum seekers. Not illegal immigrants.

 

That's the main problem here. People become so blinded by the mis information and propaganda they can't tell the difference between asylum seekers, illegal immigrants or legal immigrants.

 

   They are still waiting for themselves to be processed and if they are found not to be granted  asylum  , they will be deported as illegal immigrants , so some will be illegal  immigrants seeking asylum 

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They are still waiting for themselves to be processed and if they are found not to be granted  asylum  , they will be deported as illegal immigrants , so some will be illegal  immigrants seeking asylum 

No. They are deported as failed asylum seekers.

 

There is a fundamental difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. It seems you can't see that.

 

A bit like chopping other's comments and misquoting. 😅😅😅

Edited August 7, 20241 yr by youreavinalaff

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

No. They are deported as failed asylum seekers.

 

There is a fundamental difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. It seems you can't see that.

 

A bit like chopping other's comments and misquoting. 😅😅😅

 

 

  I didn't deliberately misquote you , and I have no idea how it  happened .

   The peoples status in the hotels isn't that important , whether they are illegal immigrants or asylum seekers isn't important , the point  was that the people who come across in dinghies are put up in the UK  in decent hotels across the Country

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

the point  was that the people who come across in dinghies are put up in the UK  in decent hotels across the Country

The shortage of appropriate accommodation in the UK is a real problem (not just for this topic of course). The cuts in funding to the immigration services in the last ten years has also created a backlog in the asylum process; if this backlog were tackled fewer people would need to be placed into hotels etc. I hope the new government will deal with this better but I will believe it when I see it.

 

There is no doubt a radical revamp of the whole process would be welcome. For perspective though, the UK spends 0.15% of its GNI on processing asylum seekers - that includes the costs of hotels. I have no problem with people who believe that's 0.15% too much, but it clearly is not the main cause of any perceived financial ills within the UK.

 

Personally, I feel that many politicians have supported the focus on immigration to deflect from the the bigger issues. That has evidently been successful.

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

  I didn't deliberately misquote you , and I have no idea how it  happened .

   The peoples status in the hotels isn't that important , whether they are illegal immigrants or asylum seekers isn't important , the point  was that the people who come across in dinghies are put up in the UK  in decent hotels across the Country

The point is, they are not.

 

Only those that apply for asylum are 

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

The point is, they are not.

 

Only those that apply for asylum are 

 

  And many of those asylum seekers are illegal immigrants using the asylum process to stay in the UK and they stay in hotels (for years , paid for by the tax payer)