Brutal assault on Canadian raises serious questions about tourist safety in Pattaya

[Spock]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

So what was the reason?

Leaning on a car?

I doubt it.

The reason is relatively unimportant. What is important is security guards exceeding the action expected of them in the role they should be playing, particularly in the wake of the highly publicised beating and kicking of a Brit. Why do you people all jump to the conclusion that glorified thugs in security outfits have good reason or any reason to put people in hospital via their actions? These guards are meant to exercise restraint and try to calm situations rather than making than escalating them. There is no excuse for this type of behaviour and the first reaction from posters shouldn't be to question reasons behind the thuggery but to condemn violence by people paid to prevent it.

[nickmondo]

SOI 6 is a <deleted>hole full of the dreggs of society, why go there?

[wealthychef]

Just going by the information in the article and no further research, I would say it sounds like he leaned on a car, someone said get off, and he gave them an attitude and decided it would be a good idea to throw down.  15 guys show up, bang he hits his head, and we have a news story.  I don't see how one can draw conclusions about the entire city from this.  

I will say that on a recent visit I did encounter a group of young Thai men that made me feel kind of threatened.  That is the first time I ever had that feeling in Thailand.  

Edited August 6 by wealthychef

[Chivas]

Whatever happened yet again its not a good look

[smew]

Yes, yet again another example of Pattaya being family and tourist friendly place.

Hope Canadian press get a hold of this and does its job!!! 

[TaaSaparot]

10 minutes ago, wealthychef said:

Just going by the information in the article and no further research, I would say it sounds like he leaned on a car, someone said get off, and he gave them an attitude and decided it would be a good idea to throw down.  15 guys show up, bang he hits his head, and we have a news story.  I don't see how one can draw conclusions about the entire city from this.  

 

Nope, just the one security guard who had been told the Canadian guy was trying to break into a car (and it looks suspicious)

 

A pushing match ensues, where the Canadian fell back and hit his head on the road.

Edited August 6 by TaaSaparot

[Ricardo99]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

The shadow has long been cast and it's never gone away. It seems like there's a rather significant, disproportionate amount of crime in Pattaya, committed against foreigners. Much of it seems to be committed by desperado ladyboys. It's likely just the fact that it tends to attract a certain crowd, and people tend to prey on that certain crowd.

 

Otherwise, Thailand remains quite safe for the vast majority of visitors.

I only go to Pattaya now to visit a buddy who has a condo there for the last 8 years. Of these he worked overseas for most if them , so I'd use the condo for a month or two per year, keeping it clean and doing a bit of DIY when called for.

 

He finally really retired there about 3 years ago. He has being trying to sell the condo and move elsewhere for two of these years, as he thinks Pattaya has become a really dangerous sh.....hole.

 

He has been assaulted by Thai at bars or leaving bars (where he is a regular) twice in 12 months, just because of some percived slightly. Thinks their all a bunch of nutters with the emotional restraint of toddlers now!

Edited August 6 by Ricardo99
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[Georgealbert]

This update in Thai language media.

 

”A security guard has turned himself in to police after being accused of seriously assaulting a Canadian tourist. The incident, which occurred on July 31 in Soi Pattaya 6, led to the tourist's hospitalisation and sparked a plea for justice from his wife.

 

At 09:30 on August 4, Police Colonel Navin Theerawit, Superintendent of Pattaya City Police Station, along with Police Lieutenant Colonel Piyapong Ensan, Chief of Tourist Police Division 4, Sub-Division 2, Police Lieutenant Colonel Chainarong Jitsunthorn, Investigation Officer of Pattaya Police Station, and Police Captain Apichat Jarurak, Deputy Superintendent of Tourist Police Division 4, Sub-Division 2, brought in Mr. Patipan So-Heng, a 28-year-old security guard from Soi Pattaya 6, for questioning at the Pattaya City Police Station's investigation room.

 

Mr. Patipan So-Heng, 28, spoke to reporters about the incident, explaining that he was informed by locals about a tourist attempting to break into a car. When the car owner confronted the tourist, the latter became aggressive. Mr. Patipan intervened to check the situation, but the tourist refused to cooperate and pushed him against a car. In response, Mr. Patipan pushed back. The tourist then tried to advance again, prompting Mr. Patipan to push him once more, causing the tourist to fall and hit his head on the ground.

 

Mr. Patipan stressed that eyewitnesses did not see the entire incident from the beginning and misunderstood the situation. He attempted to explain to the tourist, but the tourist ran away. Upon seeing news reports of the incident, Mr. Patipan contacted the police to clarify the events.

 

CCTV footage captured the altercation, clearly showing there was no punching involved, only pushing, which led to the tourist falling and injuring himself. The footage has been submitted to investigators as evidence to ensure fair proceedings for all parties involved.”

 

[Baba Naba]

3 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

It's all been very quiet about the soi 6 security thugs kicking brits in the head whilst on the ground a few months back. Seems these thugs still control soi 6, so good reason to avoid if all it takes to be sent to ICU is lean against a car 😞

 

Get the whole story before shooting your mouth off...  

"Tourist Police Division 4, Sub-Division 2, brought in Mr. Patipan So-Heng, a 28-year-old security guard from Soi Pattaya 6, for questioning at the Pattaya City Police Station's investigation room.

 

Mr. Patipan So-Heng, 28, spoke to reporters about the incident, explaining that he was informed by locals about a tourist attempting to break into a car. When the car owner confronted the tourist, the latter became aggressive. Mr. Patipan intervened to check the situation, but the tourist refused to cooperate and pushed him against a car. In response, Mr. Patipan pushed back. The tourist then tried to advance again, prompting Mr. Patipan to push him once more, causing the tourist to fall and hit his head on the ground.

 

Mr. Patipan stressed that eyewitnesses did not see the entire incident from the beginning and misunderstood the situation. He attempted to explain to the tourist, but the tourist ran away. Upon seeing news reports of the incident, Mr. Patipan contacted the police to clarify the events.

 

CCTV footage captured the altercation, clearly showing there was no punching involved, only pushing, which led to the tourist falling and injuring himself. The footage has been submitted to investigators as evidence to ensure fair proceedings for all parties involved.”

[arick]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

You do not know the victim. I, and a few others on the original thread, do.

 

Your speculation and comments on that thread were ill-advised, now they are sick.

Canadians can drink a 24 case and still walk

[kuzmabruk]

3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

It is not the first time, but Pattaya will become the best family destination as we read yesterday.

Not will become but already is.  ICUs have sleeping facilities for the entire family.   

[Toby1947]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Bouncers generally love a good set-to.....it is in their DNA.....anyone with half a brain knows in order to avoid a good beating, you don't give them any kind excuse.

 

Having said that, what they did was criminal.

Don't much fancy a set-to on their own, over the years I've challenged a few, everyone of the cowards bottled it. Most cowardly nation on the planet 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

so good reason to avoid if all it takes to be sent to ICU is lean against a car

Well, that is just one side of the story, I'm not condoning the attack in any way but I'd be very surprised if there was nothing in between his leaning on the car and the punches that floored him.

EDIT:  Apparently there were no punches and no beating.

Edited August 6 by Liverpool Lou

[Rimmer]

Some troll posts and duplicate posts removed

[Ironmike]

I don't understand Pattaya only yesterday is said to be the place to take the whole family too,,,, yeah right Pattayahas always and will always be a complete sh, it hole it should be burned to the ground and left that way

[koolkarl]

These hero bouncers, who always fight in groups, should be found guilty of attempted murder and given serious jail time. If not, the world should be notified how dangerous it is here. 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

You do not know the victim. I, and a few others on the original thread, do.

So what is the story, then?   The full story, of course.  Simply leaning on a car does not produce the type of attack that has been reported. 

[Nabby]

Thai bouncers are utter savages, and letting them go unpunished makes Thailand look terrible. 

[MalcolmB]

59 minutes ago, Spock said:

Why do you people all jump to the conclusion that glorified thugs in security outfits have good reason or any reason to put people in hospital via their actions?

Experience.

Never had a problem and have seen the Thais show a lot more restraint than security back in the UK.

[thecyclist]

3 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

Ok, but the Police Chief pointed out last time it's not Security's job to fight tourists. He said their job is to protect tourists and to call the police when a situation demands it. 

 

Waiting for full story to see how security did after their new mandated training they had to do after last time they made international news

It went very well. They despise farangs even more after they had to sit through mindless training .

 

[roo860]

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Well, that is just one side of the story, I'm not condoning the attack in any way but I'd be very surprised if there was nothing in between his leaning on the car and the punches that floored him.

Where's it say he was punched?

[Nabby]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

So what is the story, then?   The full story, of course.  Simply leaning on a car does not produce the type of attack that has been reported. 

You haven't been in Asia long enough if you don't think leaning on a car could bring on savage behavior. 

[MalcolmB]

11 minutes ago, Toby1947 said:

Don't much fancy a set-to on their own, over the years I've challenged a few, everyone of the cowards bottled it. Most cowardly nation on the planet 

They probably thought you were too old. 

[Gknrd]

You are going to se more and more of this. It will start trickling down to the smaller towns. China's economy in the toilet and they blame the US. Thailand the number one supporter of China in SE Asia. After many years of going and living in Thailand I was talking to a Thai lady in Pattaya. When she found out I was from the US she said Thailand does not want Westerners in Thailand. 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Butts said:

it cost Thailand $$$$ Millions of Baht if not dollars in Lost tourism due to bad press

Has it...how do you know, where are the stats you're using?

[MalcolmB]

22 minutes ago, Baba Naba said:

clearly showing there was no punching involved, only pushing, which led to the tourist falling and injuring himself.

Well there you go. All the posters here who imagined that 20 viscous Thai bouncers bashed the bloke.

 

He was drunk and fell over injuring himself.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Soi 6 security AGAIN. Why are they not in jail?

Were the same individuals involved in this incident?

[MalcolmB]

4 minutes ago, Nabby said:

You haven't been in Asia long enough if you don't think leaning on a car could bring on savage behavior. 

He fell over.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, nickmondo said:

SOI 6 is a <deleted>hole full of the dreggs of society, why go there?

Perhaps he enjoyed that type of company?

 

[MalcolmB]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Were the same individuals involved in this incident?

Quite possibly Lou.

Those Nightwish Group bouncers are on call there for problems in a number of bars.

As we saw with the Brits they might not be big guys, but they know how to handle themselves.