Elon Musk and Sir Keir Starmer Clash Over 'Civil War' Remarks

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Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of X, has engaged in a heated exchange with Downing Street following his controversial comments about the possibility of civil war in the UK. Musk made his initial remarks on his social media platform, X, in response to a video showing rioters setting off fireworks at police, declaring that "civil war is inevitable."

 

 

The prime minister's spokesperson quickly dismissed Musk's assertion, stating there is "no justification for comments like that" and warning that "anyone who is whipping up violence online will face the full force of the law."

 

The situation escalated when Musk responded to a social media post by Sir Keir Starmer, who had condemned the violence directed at Muslims. The unrest included far-right demonstrations targeting mosques and hotels housing asylum seekers. Starmer emphasized that such acts "are not protest, they are pure violence" and asserted, "We will not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities."

In a pointed reply, Musk questioned Starmer’s focus: "Shouldn't you be concerned about attacks on *all* communities?"

 

This exchange highlights the broader concern over online disinformation and its potential role in exacerbating civil unrest. The UK government is urging social media companies to take greater responsibility for curbing harmful online content that may be fueling the violence. Technology Secretary Peter Kyle convened a meeting with executives from Tiktok, Meta, Google, and X to emphasize their obligation to combat the spread of hateful misinformation and incitement.

 

Kyle stressed the urgency of the matter: "There is a significant amount of content circulating that platforms need to be dealing with at pace. Different companies take different approaches, and I expect platforms to ensure that those seeking to spread hate online are not being facilitated and have nowhere to hide."

 

Heidi Alexander, the Courts Minister, supported Downing Street's criticism of Musk's comments. She underscored the need for calm and condemned the notion that civil war is inevitable as "totally unjustified." Alexander pointed out that while some legislation on online harms from the previous government has not yet come into force, social media companies should proactively address the issue. "They should be actually doing the right thing and asking themselves what more they can be doing to stop the propagation and dissemination of this material and content online," she said.

 

The row between Musk and UK officials underscores the ongoing debate about the role of social media in shaping public discourse and the responsibility of tech giants in mitigating the spread of harmful content. As tensions continue to rise, the UK government remains firm in its stance that online platforms must do more to prevent the incitement of violence and maintain social order.

 

Credit: Sky News News  2024-08-07

 

 

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[Theforgotten1]

The government is on the anti British side , protects his muslims at the expense of the British 

[cncltd1973]

trust a guy with autism to tell you the reality you don't want to hear

[spidermike007]

Musk should keep his mouth shut more often, and stop rambling on issues he knows little about. I really wish he would just take that trip to Mars already. He is annoying. 

[john donson]

just a few more generations 

[Bagwain]

Talking with many expats from the land of the Great Unwashed here, Musk is on the money. Starmer is just a puppet and is letting the divide and conquer happen. We all know which 3 letter mobs he is in bed with!

Edited August 7 by Bagwain

[Smokey and the Bandit]

1 hour ago, Theforgotten1 said:

The government is on the anti British side , protects his muslims at the expense of the British 

Yes it is clear with the 2 tier policing what side the UK Government is on, Elon Musk is totally correct!

[thaipo7]

1 hour ago, Theforgotten1 said:

The government is on the anti British side , protects his muslims at the expense of the British 

The Muslims must be protected.  

[mrmicbkktxl]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of X, has engaged in a heated exchange with Downing Street following his controversial comments about the possibility of civil war in the UK. Musk made his initial remarks on his social media platform, X, in response to a video showing rioters setting off fireworks at police, declaring that "civil war is inevitable."

 

 

The prime minister's spokesperson quickly dismissed Musk's assertion, stating there is "no justification for comments like that" and warning that "anyone who is whipping up violence online will face the full force of the law."

 

The situation escalated when Musk responded to a social media post by Sir Keir Starmer, who had condemned the violence directed at Muslims. The unrest included far-right demonstrations targeting mosques and hotels housing asylum seekers. Starmer emphasized that such acts "are not protest, they are pure violence" and asserted, "We will not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities."

In a pointed reply, Musk questioned Starmer’s focus: "Shouldn't you be concerned about attacks on *all* communities?"

 

This exchange highlights the broader concern over online disinformation and its potential role in exacerbating civil unrest. The UK government is urging social media companies to take greater responsibility for curbing harmful online content that may be fueling the violence. Technology Secretary Peter Kyle convened a meeting with executives from Tiktok, Meta, Google, and X to emphasize their obligation to combat the spread of hateful misinformation and incitement.

 

Kyle stressed the urgency of the matter: "There is a significant amount of content circulating that platforms need to be dealing with at pace. Different companies take different approaches, and I expect platforms to ensure that those seeking to spread hate online are not being facilitated and have nowhere to hide."

 

Heidi Alexander, the Courts Minister, supported Downing Street's criticism of Musk's comments. She underscored the need for calm and condemned the notion that civil war is inevitable as "totally unjustified." Alexander pointed out that while some legislation on online harms from the previous government has not yet come into force, social media companies should proactively address the issue. "They should be actually doing the right thing and asking themselves what more they can be doing to stop the propagation and dissemination of this material and content online," she said.

 

The row between Musk and UK officials underscores the ongoing debate about the role of social media in shaping public discourse and the responsibility of tech giants in mitigating the spread of harmful content. As tensions continue to rise, the UK government remains firm in its stance that online platforms must do more to prevent the incitement of violence and maintain social order.

 

Credit: Sky News News  2024-08-07

 

 

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1932534/uk-riots-birmingham-palestine-flags

[James105]

Quelle surprise.  Labour MP outraged that people can see content that is not pre-approved by the government.   We are just 4 weeks into this Labour government.  4 weeks.  I knew they would be bad, but I didn't foresee just how dangerous they would be when they gained power.  

 

 

[rovinman]

I think there is a NEED on ALL platforms, for a "FACT-CHECKING",  A I Algorithm, to be used on ALL posts, in Whatever Media is used  !
This Algorithm can inspect EVERY post for FACTUALITY and comment on the post, INSTANTLY, whether it is accepted for publication or not  !

It is NOT censoring the post, but allowing TRUE facts to be stated  !

 

Elon Musk please note  !

[Flying Saucage]

Censorship in the so called western democracies: Only "information" and opinions approved by the Ministry of Truth are accepted anymore. They still have the audacity to call it "freedom of speech".

[impulse]

Here's a quick question...  How many Brits were banged up last year for social media posts, and how many Russkies?

 

I'd publish the link to the answer, but it would be an unapproved source and deleted.  So I ask as a question.

 

Answers on a postcard, please...

 

[frank83628]

16 minutes ago, impulse said:

Here's a quick question...  How many Brits were banged up last year for social media posts, and how many Russkies?

 

I'd publish the link to the answer, but it would be an unapproved source and deleted.  So I ask as a question.

 

Answers on a postcard, please...

 

i have seen that too, i forget the podcast.....but but but Putin has his evil grip on his people!

 

i think it was 3000+ for the UK/Scoltand,  and was it even double figures for Russia?

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

We are just 4 weeks into this Labour government.  4 weeks.  I knew they would be bad, but I didn't foresee just how dangerous they would be when they gained power.  

 

I hate to be a smartarse but I could see just how dangerous they would be.

 

That's why they didn't say anything in the build up to the election. In case the public worked it out. Starmer had them all silenced in case their lunacy was spotted. 

 

Musk is right. The UK is done. 

[James105]

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I hate to be a smartarse but I could see just how dangerous they would be.

 

That's why they didn't say anything in the build up to the election. In case the public worked it out. Starmer had them all silenced in case their lunacy was spotted. 

 

Musk is right. The UK is done. 

 

Yes, it certainly appears that way.  Maybe I was just being overly optimistic that they would just turn into Blair's Labour and start a few wars, (only) double legal and illegal immigration, raise a few taxes and destroy the economy before someone with some economic sense would take over next time whilst there was still something to take over from.  

 

There will be no honest or difficult conversations about why there is such dissatisfaction in the UK and why people are taking to the streets.  They will just continue to point at pantomime villains like Farage and Robinson saying it is all their fault, whilst silencing anyone who speaks out.  

 

I remember reading Peter Hitchins virtually begging people to vote for Tories (even though he detests them at every level) to prevent Labour from getting into power as he recognised how dangerous Labour (Starmer specifically) are, but it was an impossible ask due to their epic failures whilst in government.  

[Purdey]

It must be difficult to be neutral if you are a government trying to defend a minority under attack in response to a Welshman killing three kids. Whatever Starmer does will be seen as wrong. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/southport-stabbing-court-murder-hearing-b2589422.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/clashes-uks-southport-after-killing-three-girls-leaves-many-police-injured-2024-07-31/

Edited August 7 by Purdey

[Ian j]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Musk should keep his mouth shut more often, and stop rambling on issues he knows little about. I really wish he would just take that trip to Mars already. He is annoying. 

Get your head out of your arce

[Smokey and the Bandit]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/riots-police-tackle-all-sides-equal-ferocity-two-tier/

 

"Musk brands Starmer ‘two-tier Keir’ amid row over riot policing"

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/riots-police-tackle-all-sides-equal-ferocity-two-tier/

 

"Musk brands Starmer ‘two-tier Keir’ amid row over riot policing"

 

"Two-Tier Keir" 😂

 

Good stuff from Musk. Hope the name sticks. 

[impulse]

Musk sure is making the news a lot...

 

https://apnews.com/article/x-sues-advertisers-unilever-cvs-mars-orsted-673d1ae88e9fb0ca5b170d238739453e

 

And if you look at unapproved sources, he's promising an in-depth interview with Bad Orange Man on Monday.

 

I wish him well on his anti-trust lawsuit, and the Trump interview will be interesting, if they can make it happen.

 

Regarding his row with 2 tier Keir, perhaps Musk should disable Starlink over the UK for a few hours...  Or maybe just over London...  Call it a public security measure, to keep the right wing thugs from scheming over his satellites.  Lest he be charged, like so many others.