Trump is getting torched in the polls

[CharlieKo]

31 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Vs "Bone Spurs" draft-deferment Trump?  The Rs had a chance for a good candidate - solid on every conservative policy + a military-record - in DeSantis, but there were too many Trump "fan" fools in the R-Primary, who think this is some sort of "rah-rah my team" event - the sort who think WWF wrestling is "real."  Granted, the "Orange Man Bad" types are equally clueless - just flip the "face" and "heel" roles in the WWF-Ring.  American politics are a sad, sick joke, now.

I'm not aware of Trump claiming something he didn't do. Where as Walz obviously lied.

[Hanaguma]

37 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Vs "Bone Spurs" draft-deferment Trump?  The Rs had a chance for a good candidate - solid on every conservative policy + a military-record - in DeSantis, but there were too many Trump "fan" fools in the R-Primary, who think this is some sort of "rah-rah my team" event - the sort who think WWF wrestling is "real."  Granted, the "Orange Man Bad" types are equally clueless - just flip the "face" and "heel" roles in the WWF-Ring.  American politics are a sad, sick joke, now.

Draft deferments were common at that time. Lots of young men who later rose to prominence used them- yes Trump, also Biden and Clinton and Cheney and Bush jr. 

 

The more that comes out about Walz, the worse it gets. Even his unit's chaplain was aghast at Walz' decision to quit at such a crucial time before his unit deployed overseas.

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, CallumWK said:

Few months ago Harris scored lower than Biden in the polls, and that says something.

 

So how is it possible that everyone like her now?

Not everyone but the turnaround actually happened. It's very real. 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, watthong said:

 

In 2024 here she is - salt to your hurt pride! - and lack of joy (see Trump.)

 

Freedom!

 

We live in interesting times.

 

 

[MicroB]

38 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Biden and Clinton and Cheney and Bush jr.

 

They didn't falsify a medical using a corrupt physician.

[gargamon]

3 hours ago, CharlieKo said:

With a VP candidate who's accused of stolen valour.

As opposed to a draft dodging presidential candidate that believes people who were taken prisoner or killed in battle are losers?

 

Good luck with that. Hahahaha.

[nattaya09]

The RCP Average for Aug 12  shows Trump leading in 5 of 7 top battleground states. All 7 are within margin of error so everythings open. She will likely get a  short term bump immediately after the Convention. See where they are in October 

 

 

https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states

[earlinclaifornia]

 

Donald Trump’s interview with Elon Musk LIVE Updates: X pushes conversation for smaller audience due to technical issues

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/donald-trump-s-interview-with-elon-musk-live-update-unscripted-highly-entertaining-says-xs-owner-11723479411010.html

 

 

just another crash and burn compliments of MAGA. Love it!

[Hanaguma]

4 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

They didn't falsify a medical using a corrupt physician.

Unproven and irrelevant. They all could have gone but all tried their hardest not to. Biden even took MORE student deferments than Trump. But if you think that something from 55 years ago is still fresh and relevant, go for it.

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, CharlieKo said:

I'm not aware of Trump claiming something he didn't do. Where as Walz obviously lied.

Trump claimed he had bone spurs to get out of serving in the military.

 

Are you okay with his lies?

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Unproven and irrelevant. They all could have gone but all tried their hardest not to. Biden even took MORE student deferments than Trump. But if you think that something from 55 years ago is still fresh and relevant, go for it.

Biden isn't running for president, Trump is. Along with a running mate who mimicked a drag queen.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

The RCP Average for Aug 12  shows Trump leading in 5 of 7 top battleground states. All 7 are within margin of error so everythings open. She will likely get a  short term bump immediately after the Convention. See where they are in October 

 

 

https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states

This may be the last time you post the RCP poll.

[morrobay]

5 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

They didn't falsify a medical using a corrupt physician.

Bush& Cheney falsely claimed Iraq  had nuclear weapons using a corrupt general. Sending thousand of US service men on a one way trip to Iraq. Biden is sending Billions of dollars to Ukraine that needs to be spent in the USA. And all you people can talk about are bone spurs and paying off a hooker ??. 

 

 

[earlinclaifornia]

2 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Bush& Cheney falsely claimed Iraq  had nuclear weapons using a corrupt general. Sending thousand of US service men on a one way trip to Iraq. Biden is sending Billions of dollars to Ukraine that needs to be spent in the USA. And all you people can talk about are bone spurs and paying off a hooker ??. 

 

 

Are you saying in uncertain terms you think Russia attacks are not everybodys responsibility?

[morrobay]

6 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Are you saying in uncertain terms you think Russia attacks are not everybodys responsibility?

Speak for yourself 

[Walker88]

20 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Sorry, but this is not the president of the seventh grade, or any other election that is based on a popular vote.

 

The Electoral College bias still favors Trump.

 

And polls are worthless/useless.

 

We're still in the "Getting-to-know-You" phase.

 

FWIW I subscribe to and watch the Pondering Politics YT channel.

 

A "shock" poll from the Financial Times portraying doom and gloom for Trump strikes me as "thirsty", more than accurate.

 

 

The latest polls show Harris with a 4 point lead over the felon in each of the key swing States of WI, MI and PA.

 

If he loses those, he does not carry the EC.

 

Also worrying is that in massive Dade County, FL, the felon is 15 points behind Harris. Suddenly FL is a swing State.

 

It could well be a Harris landslide come November.

[earlinclaifornia]

11 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Speak for yourself 

I agree with that.

I'm a guy who grew up a mile from the Atalantic Ocean.

Try going to bed knowing Russian subs were with in range.

Watch the history of war mongers that hopefully you never forget 

Edited August 13 by earlinclaifornia

[jas007]

The polls?  Remember how accurate the polls were in 2016? Anyway, people should know by now that the polls don’t mean much. They’re mostly a propaganda tool.

[earlinclaifornia]

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

The latest polls show Harris with a 4 point lead over the felon in each of the key swing States of WI, MI and PA.

 

If he loses those, he does not carry the EC.

 

Also worrying is that in massive Dade County, FL, the felon is 15 points behind Harris. Suddenly FL is a swing State.

 

It could well be a Harris landslide come November.

North Carolina is lining up for Harris now.

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

The polls?  Remember how accurate the polls were in 2016? Anyway, people should know by now that the polls don’t mean much. They’re mostly a propaganda tool.

The polls were accurate in 2016.

 

Do you disagree?

[earlinclaifornia]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

The polls were accurate in 2016.

 

Do you disagree?

They were in 2020 and 2022 as well

[bamnutsak]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The polls were accurate in 2016.

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

[Hanaguma]

28 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Biden isn't running for president, Trump is. Along with a running mate who mimicked a drag queen.

Yeah, and he is running against a woman who blew her way into politics and a coward who ditched his fellow soldiers when it was time to lead them in war.

 

See, two can play at this game. Now, would you care to stay at least moderately close to the topic, or just play Duelling Insults about the candidates?

[earlinclaifornia]

37 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

This may be the last time you post the RCP poll.

racetothewh dot com has Harris already with the 270.

They are the most accurate of all the polling from 2020

[Captain Monday]

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-advisers-deeply-rattled-spiraling-161207179.html

 

Trump’s Anger Out of Control as Poll Numbers Keep Cratering

 

 

 Nov 21, 2016 I flew TG NRT-BKK.  Polls had it for Hillary in a landslide of course.

She had it in the bag and was winning

 

Shocked 6 😬 hours later I got off the plane in BKK. Saw a TV,  Trump had been elected.

Never forget it is not about America.  iI will come down to a few hundred thousand votes in swing states

A bizarre and anachronistic system that no longer fit for purpose should be abolished

 

Edited August 13 by Captain Monday

[earlinclaifornia]

9 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-advisers-deeply-rattled-spiraling-161207179.html

 

Trump’s Anger Out of Control as Poll Numbers Keep Cratering

 

 

 Nov 21, 2016 I flew TG NRT-BKK.  Polls had it for Hillary in a landslide of course.

She had it in the bag and was winning

 

Shocked 6 😬 hours later I got off the plane in BKK. Saw a TV,  Trump had been elected.

Never forget it is not about America.  iI will come down to a few hndred thousand votes in swing states

A bizarre and anachronistic system that no longer fit for purpose that should be abolished

 

 

I did not recall that. Nothing close to a landslide at the election day.The lead had been on a downward path up until the vote and ended up as follows:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election

[Captain Monday]

3 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I did not recall that. Nothing close to a landslide at the election day.The lead had been on a downward path up until the vote and ended up as follows:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election

 

 

Maybe that is right but nobody expected Trump to win except maybe Michael Moore. Trump ran for personal aggrandizement, attention and fundraising.  Trump had been saying for months in 2016 that it was "rigged". Nobody was more surprised than Trump when Trump won. 

 

[Danderman123]

36 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yeah, and he is running against a woman who blew her way into politics and a coward who ditched his fellow soldiers when it was time to lead them in war.

 

See, two can play at this game. Now, would you care to stay at least moderately close to the topic, or just play Duelling Insults about the candidates?

Trump is the king of insults, and you support him. What's up with that?

[Hanaguma]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Trump is the king of insults, and you support him. What's up with that?

The answer is in your question.

[earlinclaifornia]

Just now, Captain Monday said:

 

 

Maybe that is right but nobody expected Trump to win except maybe Michael Moore. Trump ran for personal aggrandizement, attention and fundraising.  Trump had been saying for months in 2016 that it was "rigged". Nobody was more surprised than Trump when Trump won. 

 

Just my IHMO. Clinton was a fool for all the negativity she brought, she had the lack of insight to not put any effort into the Blue Wall.

Manafort provided Russia with the finding on the current state of the race.

They did the job of affecting those who  did not bother to vote.

Kelly Ann was also key.