16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

decreased corporate taxes, passing the tax burden to the workers 

 

False

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/584190-irs-data-prove-trump-tax-cuts-benefited-middle-working-class-americans-most/

 

Ouch

9 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Long before he became a political person, Walz did something stupid. Fair enough, no big deal I agree.

 

Long before he became a political person, Trump SAID something stupid (grab em by the p-word).  Yet the same standard didn't apply. 

 

Why is that?

You seem to have missed the multiple allegations of sexual assault including a case involving a minor and the fraud cases involving his charity, university, and dealings with banks.

These aren't just 'stupid' mistakes but a pattern of criminal behaviour.

2 hours ago, maesariang said:

False

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/584190-irs-data-prove-trump-tax-cuts-benefited-middle-working-class-americans-most/

 

Ouch

The article is written by Justin Haskins, the director of the Socialism Research Center at The Heartland Institute and the co-author, with Glenn Beck, of the forthcoming book “The Great Reset: Joe Biden and the Rise of 21st Century Fascism.”

 

Is that what you consider to be a credible source of accurate info? 

 

 

38 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

You seem to have missed the multiple allegations of sexual assault including a case involving a minor and the fraud cases involving his charity, university, and dealings with banks.

These aren't just 'stupid' mistakes but a pattern of criminal behaviour.

Most all of the stuff you listed is just either made up or blown way out of proportion.

 

What sexual assault allegations? Any convictions? No. And they all came forward after he was running for President. 

 

What fraud case involving his charity? Prosecuted in NY in 2018?

 

Trump University? You mean where (after Trump became President) it was discovered that it was not actually an accredited university, so all the losers that thought they would go to a seminar that would make them rich had been defrauded? 

 

What dealings with banks? Borrowing money and paying it back? And prosecuted in NY after Trump decided to run for reelection? 

 

Yes, it is a pattern of the DOJ behaving criminally. 

 

42 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The article is written by Justin Haskins, the director of the Socialism Research Center at The Heartland Institute and the co-author, with Glenn Beck, of the forthcoming book “The Great Reset: Joe Biden and the Rise of 21st Century Fascism.”

 

Is that what you consider to be a credible source of accurate info? 

So, because you are unable to argue the facts, you just discount it out of hand. Typical. 

9 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I am a native born Minnesotan and I think the flag sucks

For you maybe.

 

For others, there's https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36CD8J8

 

Can you spot the difference?

 

 

18 hours ago, CHdiver said:

 

As he did not speak up about it, and he knew that his campaign manager was lying, then he agreed with it. Simple as that. 

Wrong 

11 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Long before he became a political person, Walz did something stupid. Fair enough, no big deal I agree.

 

Long before he became a political person, Trump SAID something stupid (grab em by the p-word).  Yet the same standard didn't apply. 

 

Why is that?

Because Trump has done way more wrong consistently  over his life than that 1 statement as you quoted. He's been a liar and cheat his whole life but the trumpettes that cling on everything Trump as the holy grail will never admit it 

1 minute ago, Dan O said:

Because Trump has done way more wrong consistently  over his life than that 1 statement as you quoted. He's been a liar and cheat his whole life but the trumpettes that cling on everything Trump as the holy grail will never admit it 

And apparently Walz has been a liar his whole life as well. 

 

So, who has Trump cheated? 

Just now, Yellowtail said:

And apparently Walz has been a liar his whole life as well. 

 

So, who has Trump cheated? 

What bar stool statue told you that, bignok.........😂

On 8/17/2024 at 9:56 AM, JonnyF said:

Drink drivers are the lowest of the low. They ruin lives.

 

No surprise Walz would do this. Classic fake nice guy.

 

"Drink drivers are the lowest of the low. "

 

What about those who don't return their library books on time?

 

On 8/17/2024 at 10:47 AM, BritManToo said:

30 years back everyone got drunk and drove around.

Very true.

Not to mention some did so last weekend.

14 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

 

"Drink drivers are the lowest of the low. "

 

What about those who don't return their library books on time?

 

Or call NDAs legal expenses. 

46 minutes ago, transam said:

What bar stool statue told you that, bignok.........😂

Oh no...

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh no...

No, who then..............😆

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So, because you are unable to argue the facts, you just discount it out of hand. Typical. 

I understand how difficult this whole process must be for you, and for your fellow Trump supporters. Watching your candidate disintegrate before your eyes, watching him melt down, watching him dissolve into a state of semi-senility and incoherence has to be a difficult thing to deal with.

 

I get the frustration. 

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I understand how difficult this whole process must be for you, and for your fellow Trump supporters. Watching your candidate disintegrate before your eyes, watching him melt down, watching him dissolve into a state of semi-senility and incoherence has to be a difficult thing to deal with.

 

I get the frustration. 

So now, because you are unable to argue the facts, you attack anyone that calls you out for it as a fool. Again, typical. 

 

Was watching your candidate disintegrate before your eyes, watching him melt down, watching him dissolve into a state of full-on-senility and incoherence at the debate a difficult thing for you to deal with?

 

And of course, the only sources you trust are the ones that swore to you that Biden was sharp as a tack, and in fact he was better than ever, right up until ten minutes into the election, when they threw him under the bus and immediately started anointing Kamala (who they were mocking as a liability a year ago) until she's now the female version of Obama, but without any of Obama's skills, except perhaps being able to flip-flop as need be. 

 

I'm not Frustrated, I'm sad for the country.  I'm an old man living in Thailand with my investments diversified such that I should not have to want for anything. I used to feel like kissing the ground when I landed at LAX, now I dread it every time I go back. 

 

But I get it, as a leftist, the only thing that matters to you is the continued slide to the left.

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So, who has Trump cheated? 

 

Just off the top of my head.

 

Trump has cheated on his wives, he has cheated many subcontractors who worked for him (sending some into bankruptcy), he has cheated the people who signed up for worthless courses at his university, he has cheated banks by overvaluing his assets to get better loan deals, he has cheated the IRS by undervaluing the same assets, he has cheated multiple venues where his rallies were held (by not paying them), he has cheated many of his lawyers (by not paying them).

 

Oh, and he also cheats at golf - admittedly a less serious matter but it just goes to show that he cheats at every single opportunity he gets.

 

 

 

Edited August 18, 20241 yr by GroveHillWanderer

Just now, GroveHillWanderer said:

 

Just off the top of my head.

 

Trump cheated on his wives, he cheated many subcontractors who worked for him (sending some into bankruptcy), he cheated the people who signed up for worthless courses at his university, he cheated banks by overvaluing his assets to get better loan deals, he cheated the IRS by undervaluing the same assets, he cheated multiple venues where his rallies were held (by not paying them), he cheated many of his lawyers (by not paying them).

 

Oh, and he also cheats at golf - admittedly a less serious matter but it just goes to show that he cheats at every single opportunity he gets.

 

 

 

Trump cheated on his wives

He did, and despicable, but he was a playboy when they met him. 

 

He cheated many subcontractors who worked for him.

No, he has not. Do you have any evidence of this other than opinion pieces? 

 

He cheated the people who signed up for worthless courses at his university.

You mean people that supposedly thought Trump University was an "accredited" university? 

 

He cheated banks by overvaluing his assets to get better loan deals. 

Loans that he paid back, and if true, the banks should be prosecuted for not doing their due diligence. Do banks typically take someone's word for the value of their assets? 

 

He cheated the IRS by undervaluing the same assets

Has he been prosecuted for this?

 

He cheated multiple venues where his rallies were held (by not paying them)

Can you support this claim? 

 

He cheated many of his lawyers (by not paying them)

Can you support this claim?

 

Oh, and he also cheats at golf

Can you support this claim? 

 

I doubt very much you can support any of this. Sure, a lot of litigation over costs with contractors, which is pretty common, but nothing criminal, and cheating contractors is illegal. And of course, the only person in history to be prosecuted for overstating the value of a property. 

 

Why not try to support any of this with something besides a hit-piece on Trump. 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

So now, because you are unable to argue the facts, you attack anyone that calls you out for it as a fool. Again, typical. 

 

Was watching your candidate disintegrate before your eyes, watching him melt down, watching him dissolve into a state of full-on-senility and incoherence at the debate a difficult thing for you to deal with?

 

And of course, the only sources you trust are the ones that swore to you that Biden was sharp as a tack, and in fact he was better than ever, right up until ten minutes into the election, when they threw him under the bus and immediately started anointing Kamala (who they were mocking as a liability a year ago) until she's now the female version of Obama, but without any of Obama's skills, except perhaps being able to flip-flop as need be. 

 

I'm not Frustrated, I'm sad for the country.  I'm an old man living in Thailand with my investments diversified such that I should not have to want for anything. I used to feel like kissing the ground when I landed at LAX, now I dread it every time I go back. 

 

But I get it, as a leftist, the only thing that matters to you is the continued slide to the left.

Well you keep on bringing up politics, but for me there's alot of quality of life issues, and though I do blame Newsom for a lot of problems California is facing, in general I don't blame the left, nor the right. Both are at fault. I really don't like either party. I spend a lot of time in California and though I do enjoy being there for a few weeks at a time it's certainly not any place I would want to live at this point, and after a few weeks I'm very ready to get out and come back here. 

 

I too am sad for the US. It faces two bad choices. But, Biden is no longer running and if Trump cannot figure out a way to re-calibrate his message and the campaign, he is gone, baby gone. 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Well you keep on bringing up politics, but for me there's alot of quality of life issues, and though I do blame Newsom for a lot of problems California is facing, in general I don't blame the left, nor the right. Both are at fault. I really don't like either party. I spend a lot of time in California and though I do enjoy being there for a few weeks at a time it's certainly not any place I would want to live at this point, and after a few weeks I'm very ready to get out and come back here. 

How is the right at fault for what has happened in California?

 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I too am sad for the US. It faces two bad choices. But, Biden is no longer running and if Trump cannot figure out a way to re-calibrate his message and the campaign, he is gone, baby gone. 

I think if Trump can show what a phony Kamala is, and what the actual positions of both Harris and Walz are, he can win. But with all the giveaways she's promising and the MSM running interference for her, I do not see it happening. 

 

He needs to be pounding both on their records. 

6 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Most all of the stuff you listed is just either made up or blown way out of proportion.

 

What sexual assault allegations? Any convictions? No. And they all came forward after he was running for President. 

 

What fraud case involving his charity? Prosecuted in NY in 2018?

 

Trump University? You mean where (after Trump became President) it was discovered that it was not actually an accredited university, so all the losers that thought they would go to a seminar that would make them rich had been defrauded? 

 

What dealings with banks? Borrowing money and paying it back? And prosecuted in NY after Trump decided to run for reelection? 

 

Yes, it is a pattern of the DOJ behaving criminally. 

 

Thank you for your excuses which aren't accurate. Did he give you a reach around to defend his sorry A$$?  You may want to do a little more research as there are far more issues in his closet. 

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And apparently Walz has been a liar his whole life as well. 

 

So, who has Trump cheated? 

Google it and you'll find plenty. His multiple bankruptcy cases where he stiff contractors and employees is one area.

 

Where did Walz lie?  He admitted his mistake and took accountability by quitting his coach and offered his resignation. His campaign manager liaed later on as most do to try to spin facts, sort of like what you're doing now. 

Edited August 18, 20241 yr by Dan O

51 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How is the right at fault for what has happened in California?

 

I think if Trump can show what a phony Kamala is, and what the actual positions of both Harris and Walz are, he can win. But with all the giveaways she's promising and the MSM running interference for her, I do not see it happening. 

 

He needs to be pounding both on their records. 

Would be even better if you could here........😁

So far, only tripe..........🥴

oh no

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

oh no

What is it then, if not tripe....🤔

 

Have you gone back to Walz kindergarten years yet, to see what you can dig up...😉

And what about your man Vance and his feeble excuse for defending Trump regarding trashing Medal of Honour recipients.....🤔

 

Have you forgotten to defend his extremely daft statement..........😂

 

???

5 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Thank you for your excuses which aren't accurate. Did he give you a reach around to defend his sorry A$$?  You may want to do a little more research as there are far more issues in his closet. 

That's what I thought, another no-nothing leftist is only able to regurgitate nonsense the people make up. Typical 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

That's what I thought, another no-nothing leftist is only able to regurgitate nonsense the people make up. Typical 

So what did you think about the Vance Trump daft cover up story, I know, you are too embarrassed to comment.........🤭

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

That's what I thought, another no-nothing leftist is only able to regurgitate nonsense the people make up. Typical 

Nope all facts if you bother to check. And just so you know I'm not a leftist but a realist and used to be a republican. Unlike you who is post bs my comments can be confirmed. Do some research and get facts before you post more inaccurate crap. Have a great day.