Varicose veins

[kidneyw]

Has anybody any recommendations for the treatment of varicose veins in Pattaya and how much?

I have just developed them and they are painful when I run, so that I have to stop. I am not concerned about how they look, only the pain aspect.

Thanks.

[oxo1947]

There so easy to rid now--Kidneyw.    Just injection into them. When I was younger I had the operation, Cut and strip them out--- Had to for the navy  .

[kidneyw]

1 minute ago, oxo1947 said:

There so easy to rid now--Kidneyw.    Just injection into them. When I was younger I had the operation, Cut and strip them out--- Had to for the navy  .

Thanks oxo, but have seen some quotes for prices and it seems quite expensive here.

[msbkk]

You have to consult a specialist for veins. I also have lots of varicose veins and consulted with a doctor. He advised against it because of probable side effects. I was given long compression socks to prevent further deterioration and to get relief.  Of course this depends on the case and only a vein specialist can give you the answers.

[kidneyw]

55 minutes ago, msbkk said:

You have to consult a specialist for veins. I also have lots of varicose veins and consulted with a doctor. He advised against it because of probable side effects. I was given long compression socks to prevent further deterioration and to get relief.  Of course this depends on the case and only a vein specialist can give you the answers.

Thanks. I did look at the Youtube videos and thought maybe I could try compression socks. But getting pushed by my family to get an expert opinion. Just that in Pattaya, that seems to come with a big price tag.

[The Fugitive]

1 hour ago, oxo1947 said:

There so easy to rid now--Kidneyw.    Just injection into them. When I was younger I had the operation, Cut and strip them out--- Had to for the navy  .

Same here. Injections were available and I asked about them but my consultant said he didn't do them because they don't work/last very well. Had traditional strip and ligate. In hospital the surgeon asked; 'Are you telling me the Royal Navy will accept you after we've stripped your veins?'. He shook his head in disbelief.

[msbkk]

36 minutes ago, kidneyw said:

Thanks. I did look at the Youtube videos and thought maybe I could try compression socks. But getting pushed by my family to get an expert opinion. Just that in Pattaya, that seems to come with a big price tag.

A consultation alone will not cost you a fortune if no treatment is done yet. In my case the problem is venous insufficiency. But important is to know what is really the problem. It can lead to thrombosis and blood clots if not properly diagnosed and treated. The doctor told me that especially on longer flights I must wear the compression socks because of the risks involved. 

[newbee2022]

18 hours ago, kidneyw said:

Has anybody any recommendations for the treatment of varicose veins in Pattaya and how much?

I have just developed them and they are painful when I run, so that I have to stop. I am not concerned about how they look, only the pain aspect.

Thanks.

Special Support stockings up to the thigh would help definitely. And keep your legs a bit lifted during nights, higher than your heart.

[richard_smith237]

Do you use 'skins' when you run and exercise... even when sitting and waking around ?

 

If not, give them a try...     I find them excellent to receive pressure on the legs, I wear them when chilling around the house and sometimes when sleeping if I've been on my feet all day... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[brianthainess]

18 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

There so easy to rid now--Kidneyw.    Just injection into them. When I was younger I had the operation, Cut and strip them out--- Had to for the navy  .

Yes my father many years ago had that done some were like golf ball size. He cycled everywhere and was on his feet all day at work. Although I never heard him complain about pain from them, still I was only a young kid at the time. (PS that is him in my Avatar)

[andygrr]

18 hours ago, kidneyw said:

Has anybody any recommendations for the treatment of varicose veins in Pattaya and how much?

I have just developed them and they are painful when I run, so that I have to stop. I am not concerned about how they look, only the pain aspect.

Thanks.

My mum had hers done about 10 years ago recommended by a doctor at BPH but price was crazy. We took her to the Khon Kaen University Hospital to get it done, both legs. I can't remember the price but it was very reasonable a fraction of the Pattaya prices. The only thing is you have to except all the students in the room lol

[The Fugitive]

1 minute ago, andygrr said:

My mum had hers done about 10 years ago recommended by a doctor at BPH but price was crazy. We took her to the Khon Kaen University Hospital to get it done, both legs. I can't remember the price but it was very reasonable a fraction of the Pattaya prices. The only thing is you have to except all the students in the room lol

Agree that Khon Kaen is very good for medical services (and dental too reading the reports although I have no direct experience). My mother-in-law received excellent attention at Queen Sirikit hospital. Mrs and myself at Khon Kaen Regional.

[ericbj]

I have varicose veins which never troubled me until debilitatingly painful ankle ulcers developed. Have had the latter almost continuously now for three-and-a-half years, and in that time have visited four hospitals, three locally and one in Chiang Mai. All equally useless: clearly knowing nothing of venous problems, but unwilling to admit this and refer one to a vein specialist.

 

Finally, I did a web-search and found two hospitals in Thailand that claim to treat venous problems, both in Bangkok: the Bangkok Hospital and the Yanhee Hospital. Ablation of veins is by no means cheap, so either you are well-heeled or it is a matter of last resort. Ablation can apparently nowadays be carried out by laser treatment rather than surgical removal.

 

If not a matter of last resort, then compression stockings may be the answer, if you can find the correct size. Bear in mind there should be no compression on the toes, high compression on feet and ankles, and diminishing pressure as they go up the calves; so foot size, girth of ankle and of calf, and doctor-prescribed pressure [in mm of Hg] must be taken into consideration by the pharmacist.

 

In my experience, not easy to find compression stockings here in Thailand, where pharmacies generally stock elastic bandages instead. The latter are very cheap, but in practice tend to slip so that maintaining differential pressure is difficult. [In France they sell a self-adhesive bandage called 'Coban-2' which overcomes this problem of slipping.

 

For francophones, and where things have not degraded too far, here are a couple of books:

 

'La Circulaton Veineuse - ses troubles ses remèdes par les médecines douces' by Dr Claudine Luu, Editions Dangles

 

'La Circulation Veineuse - varices, hemorroïdes, fissures' by Raymond Dextreit, Editions Vivre en Harmonie

 

Incidentally, Dr Luu is of the opinion that removal of superficial veins should only be effected when essential because doing so can put more stress on the deep veins.

 

The opinion of two doctors at a local clinic for Burmese migrant workers and their families is that removal of veins is the only solution in my case, but that for a person of my age [80] this is not without risk.

[mrmicbkktxl]

20 hours ago, kidneyw said:

Thanks. I did look at the Youtube videos and thought maybe I could try compression socks. But getting pushed by my family to get an expert opinion. Just that in Pattaya, that seems to come with a big price tag.

You should check the blood flow,I mean which veins are still in use,for that they inject some stuff to see the veins.In Bangsaen at Burapha university hospital they have an english speaking specialist,but pretty busy.First you need an appointment there,after that he will give you an appointment for vein screen(I had to wait 6 weeks),i don't remember how much I paid.To make an appointment you need a thai speaker.It is government hospital but very ok

[kidneyw]

1 hour ago, mrmicbkktxl said:

You should check the blood flow,I mean which veins are still in use,for that they inject some stuff to see the veins.In Bangsaen at Burapha university hospital they have an english speaking specialist,but pretty busy.First you need an appointment there,after that he will give you an appointment for vein screen(I had to wait 6 weeks),i don't remember how much I paid.To make an appointment you need a thai speaker.It is government hospital but very ok

Thanks

[kidneyw]

3 hours ago, ericbj said:

I have varicose veins which never troubled me until debilitatingly painful ankle ulcers developed. Have had the latter almost continuously now for three-and-a-half years, and in that time have visited four hospitals, three locally and one in Chiang Mai. All equally useless: clearly knowing nothing of venous problems, but unwilling to admit this and refer one to a vein specialist.

 

Finally, I did a web-search and found two hospitals in Thailand that claim to treat venous problems, both in Bangkok: the Bangkok Hospital and the Yanhee Hospital. Ablation of veins is by no means cheap, so either you are well-heeled or it is a matter of last resort. Ablation can apparently nowadays be carried out by laser treatment rather than surgical removal.

 

If not a matter of last resort, then compression stockings may be the answer, if you can find the correct size. Bear in mind there should be no compression on the toes, high compression on feet and ankles, and diminishing pressure as they go up the calves; so foot size, girth of ankle and of calf, and doctor-prescribed pressure [in mm of Hg] must be taken into consideration by the pharmacist.

 

In my experience, not easy to find compression stockings here in Thailand, where pharmacies generally stock elastic bandages instead. The latter are very cheap, but in practice tend to slip so that maintaining differential pressure is difficult. [In France they sell a self-adhesive bandage called 'Coban-2' which overcomes this problem of slipping.

 

For francophones, and where things have not degraded too far, here are a couple of books:

 

'La Circulaton Veineuse - ses troubles ses remèdes par les médecines douces' by Dr Claudine Luu, Editions Dangles

 

'La Circulation Veineuse - varices, hemorroïdes, fissures' by Raymond Dextreit, Editions Vivre en Harmonie

 

Incidentally, Dr Luu is of the opinion that removal of superficial veins should only be effected when essential because doing so can put more stress on the deep veins.

 

The opinion of two doctors at a local clinic for Burmese migrant workers and their families is that removal of veins is the only solution in my case, but that for a person of my age [80] this is not without risk.

Thanks

[kidneyw]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Do you use 'skins' when you run and exercise... even when sitting and waking around ?

 

If not, give them a try...     I find them excellent to receive pressure on the legs, I wear them when chilling around the house and sometimes when sleeping if I've been on my feet all day... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Will give them a try thanks.

[dddave]

5 hours ago, ericbj said:

n my experience, not easy to find compression stockings here in Thailand, where pharmacies generally stock elastic bandages instead. The latter are very cheap, but in practice tend to slip so that maintaining differential pressure is difficult. [In France they sell a self-adhesive bandage called 'Coban-2' which overcomes this problem of slipping.

When I had to wear elastic bandages on my leg after an infection, I found that using double stick tape between winds of the bandage at slippage points like the knee worked very well and kept the bandage in place even while walking.