Social Media Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 Since April, the war in Ukraine has claimed the lives of approximately 16,000 Russian soldiers, marking a significant increase in casualties as the conflict drags on. This troubling figure comes from a data project conducted by the BBC's Russia service and the independent Russian media outlet Mediazona, both of which have been meticulously tracking deaths through official reports, media coverage, and satellite images of Russian graveyards. However, the numbers provided by the project likely represent a conservative estimate, as they only include deaths that could be definitively verified. As of August 30, Mediazona reported that it had identified the names of 66,471 Russian soldiers who have been killed since the onset of the war. Back in April, the same project had recorded over 50,000 confirmed deaths, illustrating the sharp rise in the death toll over the subsequent months. The escalation in fatalities is consistent with the estimates provided by the British Ministry of Defence, which in June predicted that Russia was suffering an average of 1,000 casualties per day. This prediction was based on the sustained Russian pressure across various front lines, leading to increasingly heavy losses. The term "casualties" encompasses both deaths and injuries, meaning the human cost of the war is even more severe than the death toll alone suggests. The Ministry of Defence's June estimate indicated that Russia had already sustained 70,000 casualties in just the two preceding months. This forecasted trend of high casualty rates appears to be continuing, with Russia now facing a prolonged period of intense losses. Mediazona noted that the recent increase of 4,600 deaths in the last four weeks was not directly related to specific military operations, such as Ukraine's incursion in Kursk or Russia's advances in the eastern regions. Instead, this surge in recorded deaths reflects the ongoing work of researchers who are still processing a backlog of death reports. As the war continues with no clear resolution in sight, the human toll continues to climb, casting a shadow over the future of both nations involved. The rising numbers highlight the devastating impact of the conflict on Russian forces, as the country grapples with the consequences of sustained military engagement in Ukraine. Credit: Daily Telegraph 2024-09-03 Get the ASEAN NOW daily NEWSLETTER - Click HERE to subscribe 1 1
Popular Post pegman Posted September 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 4, 2024 I think these numbers are about as credible as when the BBC and British Ministry of Defence guaranteed that there were WMD in Iraq. Unfortunately the Ukrainians are severely outgunned. If there were 16k Russian soldiers killed since April then Ukrainian soldiers killed are probably in the six figures since that time. 2 4 1 3 4 4 5
Popular Post milesinnz Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 10:09 AM, pegman said: I think these numbers are about as credible as when the BBC and British Ministry of Defence guaranteed that there were WMD in Iraq. Unfortunately the Ukrainians are severely outgunned. If there were 16k Russian soldiers killed since April then Ukrainian soldiers killed are probably in the six figures since that time. Next you will be saying that Russia has not been invaded since WW2 and Putin's "special operation" is going to plan... 4 1 1 3 5
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 On 9/3/2024 at 3:33 AM, Social Media said: Since April, the war in Ukraine has claimed the lives of approximately 16,000 Russian soldiers, marking a significant increase in casualties as the conflict drags on. This troubling figure comes from a data project conducted by the BBC's Russia service and the independent Russian media outlet Mediazona, both of which have been meticulously tracking deaths through official reports, media coverage, and satellite images of Russian graveyards. However, the numbers provided by the project likely represent a conservative estimate, as they only include deaths that could be definitively verified. As of August 30, Mediazona reported that it had identified the names of 66,471 Russian soldiers who have been killed since the onset of the war. Back in April, the same project had recorded over 50,000 confirmed deaths, illustrating the sharp rise in the death toll over the subsequent months. The escalation in fatalities is consistent with the estimates provided by the British Ministry of Defence, which in June predicted that Russia was suffering an average of 1,000 casualties per day. This prediction was based on the sustained Russian pressure across various front lines, leading to increasingly heavy losses. The term "casualties" encompasses both deaths and injuries, meaning the human cost of the war is even more severe than the death toll alone suggests. The Ministry of Defence's June estimate indicated that Russia had already sustained 70,000 casualties in just the two preceding months. This forecasted trend of high casualty rates appears to be continuing, with Russia now facing a prolonged period of intense losses. Mediazona noted that the recent increase of 4,600 deaths in the last four weeks was not directly related to specific military operations, such as Ukraine's incursion in Kursk or Russia's advances in the eastern regions. Instead, this surge in recorded deaths reflects the ongoing work of researchers who are still processing a backlog of death reports. As the war continues with no clear resolution in sight, the human toll continues to climb, casting a shadow over the future of both nations involved. The rising numbers highlight the devastating impact of the conflict on Russian forces, as the country grapples with the consequences of sustained military engagement in Ukraine. Credit: Daily Telegraph 2024-09-03 Get the ASEAN NOW daily NEWSLETTER - Click HERE to subscribe It would be more interesting how many Ukrainian soldiers died so far. And how many are able to fight. To send more weapons makes only sense as long there are soldiers left to use them. I think it's time for cease fire and peace talks. And stay away from making Ukraine a NATO member!!! 2 4 2 1 3 4
Popular Post gargamon Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 27 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: It would be more interesting how many Ukrainian soldiers died so far. And how many are able to fight. To send more weapons makes only sense as long there are soldiers left to use them. I think it's time for cease fire and peace talks. And stay away from making Ukraine a NATO member!!! Putin's stooge. 4 1 3 3 1 2 6
Popular Post Srikcir Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 What would be an interesting statistic would be how many Russian soldiers are killed by Russian forces (ground and air) versus Ukrainian soldiers killed by Ukraine forces. Citations welcomed. Currently it appears to be Russian military policy that Russian soldiers who are suspect to surrender to Ukraine rather than being killed by Ukrainian forces, are murdered beforehand by Russian forces. On the other hand Ukraine prefers to take Russian soldiers as POW's for exchange with Ukraine POW's who can be recycled back into battle. Putin seems to fear such exchanges as it could bolster Ukraine forces and so a policy by some Russian officers to kill surrendering Ukrainian soldiers a la Nazi style. 3 1 1 2 2
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 6:09 PM, pegman said: I think these numbers are about as credible as when the BBC and British Ministry of Defence guaranteed that there were WMD in Iraq. Unfortunately the Ukrainians are severely outgunned. If there were 16k Russian soldiers killed since April then Ukrainian soldiers killed are probably in the six figures since that time. Can you tell me about any Ukrainian frontal assaults conducted in the last four months? 1 1 2
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: It would be more interesting how many Ukrainian soldiers died so far. And how many are able to fight. To send more weapons makes only sense as long there are soldiers left to use them. I think it's time for cease fire and peace talks. And stay away from making Ukraine a NATO member!!! Your post was more convincing in the original Russian. 1 3 1
Popular Post john donson Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 the only winners are the politicians getting kickbacks and the industrial military complex making the usual hundreds of billions 4 1 2 2
Taboo2 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 I can understand why all the Russians are here. There is no way I would let my son die for that More Run Putin. I would go in debt to ensure my son or sons were able to get away from the nightmare that is Russia today. 1 1
newbee2022 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 2 hours ago, gargamon said: Putin's stooge. Are you able and willing to write more than these senseless catchphrases?? 😳 1 1 2
Popular Post gargamon Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 1 minute ago, newbee2022 said: Are you able and willing to write more than these senseless catchphrases?? 😳 Yes, but it will require you to post something not originating from rt. 2 1
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 37 minutes ago, gargamon said: Yes, but it will require you to post something not originating from rt. I expected some kind of nonsense already but hoping to get into discussion. Sorry, I've mistaken you for a sincere and honest poster. I'll ignore future posts. 1 1 3 2 1
newbee2022 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Srikcir said: What would be an interesting statistic would be how many Russian soldiers are killed by Russian forces (ground and air) versus Ukrainian soldiers killed by Ukraine forces. Citations welcomed. Currently it appears to be Russian military policy that Russian soldiers who are suspect to surrender to Ukraine rather than being killed by Ukrainian forces, are murdered beforehand by Russian forces. On the other hand Ukraine prefers to take Russian soldiers as POW's for exchange with Ukraine POW's who can be recycled back into battle. Putin seems to fear such exchanges as it could bolster Ukraine forces and so a policy by some Russian officers to kill surrendering Ukrainian soldiers a la Nazi style. Ukraine's number of soldiers are limited but not Russia's. So the war will come to an end when the last Ukrainian soldier will die, leaving a devastated country. For what? Why so many young men have to die? Isn't it better to negotiate with Putin? Is there anybody who will believe that Russia would move troops back to the former border? 2 2
Popular Post NatureFilm Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 It makes realy no sence to discuss with people, who are happy to eat up every day RuZZias proven Lies 1 1 2
Popular Post Lacessit Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 It's always hard to say how many Russians are being killed. The Kremlin will downplay the losses, the Ukrainians will exaggerate them. The Ukrainians are fighting a modern war, combined arms and the accent on mobility. The Russians are still fighting with poorly-motivated conscripts and a top-heavy command structure, World War I and II style. Human wave stuff. The battle of Stalingrad resulted in 1.1 million Russian casualties, over a period of 6 months and 2 weeks. Given Russia's fighting methods do not seem to have changed appreciably, IMO a figure of 16 K is quite credible. 3 1 2 2
Popular Post renaissanc Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 When will human beings stop supporting the goals of a tyrant with their life? Tyrants use people to achieve their evil goals. 1 1 1
Popular Post Elkski Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 It's like day 928 of this 3 day poorin SMO. Special military operation. Recently russia is having over 30k casualties each month. 1200/day most times . 500k total is a good number. I follow this SMO closely and Ukraine is doing ok considering the big delay in sending them arms from USA this spring that caused them to lose Adivka and the salient that resulted. Yes there has been a Ukraine attack. They invaded Russia 6 weeks ago and occupy 1200 so I'm in the Kursk region. They have also developed long range drones that go 1200 km and many oil refineries have lost their cracking columns. Many airfields have been attacked. Many oil storage facilities have been hit. Just in the last hours Ukraine has sent a large drone offensive to Moscow and nearby areas. Russia is attacking and killing civilians with drones and ballistic missiles. 1 1 3
Stevemercer Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 The only peace possible is for Ukraine to cede the annexed territories to Russia and for Ukraine to join NATO. Neither side wants this. Russia, with a population of about 144 million, can sustain the casualty rates. However, the birth rate is in free fall and the natural population decline per year is much higher than any casualty rate from the war. in 50 years the population will halve. It's hard to see how countries like Russia and China can increase their populations through immigration. Nobody seems to wants to go and live in these countries despite them being a worker's paradise. I guess one way Russia can increase its population is by absorbing its neighbours (Ukraine has about 38 million). 2 1
rice555 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 4 hours ago, Taboo2 said: I can understand why all the Russians are here. There is no way I would let my son die for that More Run Putin. I would go in debt to ensure my son or sons were able to get away from the nightmare that is Russia today. More than 1.6 million military aged Ukraine men left Ukraine rather than join the military, most are spread out over Europe. To try to get them back, they can't use Ukraine banking services, and now can only renew their PP's in Ukraine, not at any EU Ukraine consulate.
frank83628 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 4 hours ago, gargamon said: Yes, but it will require you to post something not originating from rt. but the BBC are the truth sayers?😂 2 2
gargamon Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 5 minutes ago, frank83628 said: but the BBC are the truth sayers?😂 BBC? Big black c**ks? 1 1
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Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 7 hours ago, john donson said: the only winners are the politicians getting kickbacks and the industrial military complex making the usual hundreds of billions Your man Putin can end this tomorrow. Why doesn't he? 1 1 2
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Stevemercer said: The only peace possible is for Ukraine to cede the annexed territories to Russia and for Ukraine to join NATO. Neither side wants this. Russia, with a population of about 144 million, can sustain the casualty rates. However, the birth rate is in free fall and the natural population decline per year is much higher than any casualty rate from the war. in 50 years the population will halve. It's hard to see how countries like Russia and China can increase their populations through immigration. Nobody seems to wants to go and live in these countries despite them being a worker's paradise. I guess one way Russia can increase its population is by absorbing its neighbours (Ukraine has about 38 million). If Ukraine cedes the Sudetenland to Putin, a bigger war will break out in a year or so. 2 1 2
Popular Post maesariang Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Your man Putin can end this tomorrow. Why doesn't he? A guy on the internet controls Putin? What are you on? 4 1 2 1
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 6 hours ago, newbee2022 said: Ukraine's number of soldiers are limited but not Russia's. So the war will come to an end when the last Ukrainian soldier will die, leaving a devastated country. For what? Why so many young men have to die? Isn't it better to negotiate with Putin? Is there anybody who will believe that Russia would move troops back to the former border? The war will end when Russia loses the capability of advancing (called "culmination"). We are probably a year or so away from Russia losing the war. 1 1 2 1
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: The war will end when Russia loses the capability of advancing (called "culmination"). We are probably a year or so away from Russia losing the war. I like your jokes. Very refreshing. They might be a handful who believe this even😄🤣 1 1 4
newbee2022 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Your man Putin can end this tomorrow. Why doesn't he? Well, Zelensky is in the same position. He can end the war tomorrow 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 1 minute ago, newbee2022 said: Well, Zelensky is in the same position. He can end the war tomorrow Surrender to occupation you mean brought on by numerous war crimes. 1 1 1 1
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