Swing State Polls Suggest Trump Could Edge Out Harris in Crucial 2024 Battle

[renaissanc]

If The Democrat-Marxists win in November, and I think it could happen, Americans will become the laughingstock of the world because the majority unknowingly will have been tricked into voting for the USA to become a Socialist-Communist country. They won't be able to change their decision in future elections because Comrade Kamala will let in many tens of millions of migrants to become voters for the Dem-Marxists. Of course, the migrants will vote for Comrade Kamala. So, Americans, enjoy the food lines, the crime, the unjust justice system, the poverty, and so on. You will have got this because you are stupid. You should have asked the UK government to let the British monarchy rule the USA. Even Harry and Megan could do a better job! LOL! ... (Sorry if I have offended the CNN, MSNBC, ABC, TV package customers here.)

Edited September 4 by renaissanc

[PREM-R]

Quote

24 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

If The Democrat-Marxists win in November, and I think it could happen, Americans will become the laughingstock of the world because the majority unknowingly will have been tricked into voting for the USA to become a Socialist-Communist country. They won't be able to change their decision in future elections because Comrade Kamala will let in many tens of millions of migrants to become voters for the Dem-Marxists. Of course, the migrants will vote for Comrade Kamala. So, Americans, enjoy the food lines, the crime, the unjust justice system, the poverty, and so on. You will have got this because you are stupid. You should have asked the UK government to let the British monarchy rule the USA. Even Harry and Megan could do a better job! LOL! ... (Sorry if I have offended the CNN, MSNBC, ABC, TV package customers here.)

 

 

[farangkinok]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The only polls that count are the ones that show Harris leading. All others are MAGA cultredneck lies.

You forgot to add   /sarc

[blazes]

2 hours ago, newnative said:

Or, could be that idiot Trump hugely insulted the Republican governor of Georgia.  Thank you, Donald, for being such an idiot.  Now, on to all the other swing states and let's insult the Republicans there.  

 

You should keep up.  Kemp and Trump have kissed and made up....

God knows why, but that's the way of the world..

[maesariang]

7 hours ago, Tug said:

Unlike an aggregate of all the polls

The averages in 2020 and 2016 were still very wrong 

[maesariang]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Of course this above is what the New York Post would claim in the Rupert Murdoch property's relentless pro-Trump, anti-Democrat coverage. "Trump could..." But take it for just what it's worth. So "could" a lot of other outcomes result.

 

Other media outlets have a different read on the current state of things:

 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html

 

https://archive.ph/cDPVi

 

 

The share of undecided voters in major battleground states

Polls in battleground states suggest that Harris and Trump are practically in a dead heat. That means even the few percent of voters who remain undecided could tip the scales one way or the other. Keeping an eye on these voters will be key to understanding what to expect in each of the swing states.

https://www.vox.com/politics/369735/2024-election-biden-harris-forecast-approval-undecided-spending

 

Left wing source

[mokwit]

4 hours ago, wombat said:

With the political bias of American media the only poll that is real is the one on election day.

Unfortunately even that one is rigged.

[candide]

5 hours ago, wombat said:

With the political bias of American media the only poll that is real is the one on election day.

Yet, if Kamala wins, Trump (and probably you) will claim that the election has been rigged by massive voter fraud. 😀

[stats]

A post making an unsourced and unsubstantiated claim of purported fact has been removed, along with several ensuing replies, and a bickering exchange.

 

 

[newnative]

2 hours ago, blazes said:

 

You should keep up.  Kemp and Trump have kissed and made up....

God knows why, but that's the way of the world..

All an act.  And, it doesn't mean the Georgia voters have forgotten how Trump trashed Kemp.  

[Purdey]

If Trump is to have a lasting impact on the country, he is going to want  three to five terms to achieve everything on his plate. Revising the Constitution would be his first priority. It has been amended 27 times thus far so a bit more won't hurt. As a President immune to legal prosecution for his presidential acts, he could order every state support his amendments. And then....

Wait a minute, I'm waking up. 

[Purdey]

4 hours ago, PREM-R said:

 

It already happened.

 

[Cameroni]

Most pollsters will privately say "we do not know what will happen" and truthfully they cannot predict future events that can impact the vote. 

 

For instance, if Trump again outperforms his Democratic opponent in the televised debate in a few days, as he did with Biden and Clinton that could gain Trump a few points in the swing states on top of the leads he already enjoys.

[placeholder]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Most pollsters will privately say "we do not know what will happen" and truthfully they cannot predict future events that can impact the vote. 

 

For instance, if Trump again outperforms his Democratic opponent in the televised debate in a few days, as he did with Biden and Clinton that could gain Trump a few points in the swing states on top of the leads he already enjoys.

Got a link to a credible source that shows Trump beat Clinton in the debates?

As for the Biden Trump debate. Both performed abysmally. Biden just did worse.

Edited September 4 by placeholder

[maesariang]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Most pollsters will privately say "we do not know what will happen" and truthfully they cannot predict future events that can impact the vote. 

 

For instance, if Trump again outperforms his Democratic opponent in the televised debate in a few days, as he did with Biden and Clinton that could gain Trump a few points in the swing states on top of the leads he already enjoys.

Trump wins debate and goodnight Irene.

[Cameroni]

I have to say I feel extremely good about Trump's chances to win. MSNBC's Steve Kornacki shows Trump behind only 3 points, but at the same time, Labor day, against Clinton he was  down 5 points and won, and against Biden he was down 9 and made it extremely close.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/kornacki-harris-is-up-3-points-against-trump-nationally-218525765638

 

With only 3 behind on Labor day, this race is Trump's to lose. He just needs fracking country Pennsylvania and he's as good as in.

Edited September 4 by Cameroni

[wombat]

8 hours ago, renaissanc said:

If The Democrat-Marxists win in November, and I think it could happen, Americans will become the laughingstock of the world because the majority unknowingly will have been tricked into voting for the USA to become a Socialist-Communist country. They won't be able to change their decision in future elections because Comrade Kamala will let in many tens of millions of migrants to become voters for the Dem-Marxists. Of course, the migrants will vote for Comrade Kamala. So, Americans, enjoy the food lines, the crime, the unjust justice system, the poverty, and so on. You will have got this because you are stupid. You should have asked the UK government to let the British monarchy rule the USA. Even Harry and Megan could do a better job! LOL! ... (Sorry if I have offended the CNN, MSNBC, ABC, TV package customers here.)

 

[maesariang]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I have to say I feel extremely good about Trump's chances to win. MSNBC's Steve Kornacki shows Trump behind only 3 points, but at the same time, Labor day, against Clinton he was  down 5 points and won, and against Biden he was down 9 and made extremely close.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/kornacki-harris-is-up-3-points-against-trump-nationally-218525765638

 

With only 3 behind on Labor day, this race is Trump's to lose. He just needs fracking country Pennsylvania and he's as good as in.

I have Trump 0.6 points down but in swing states ahead.

[Cameroni]

Just now, maesariang said:

I have Trump 0.6 points down but in swing states ahead.

 

Yes, he's doing great in swing states. Florida too should be red. Trump's numbers are better than in any previous presidential race.

[maesariang]

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, he's doing great in swing states. Florida too should be red. Trump's numbers are better than in any previous presidential race.

Lets see in 3 weeks after we get a few polls post debate. 

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

Lets see in 3 weeks after we get a few polls post debate. 

 

Yes, will be curious to see if Kamala will have deer in the headlights syndrome or not.  She seems easily scared.

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, will be curious to see if Kamala will have deer in the headlights syndrome or not.  She seems easily scared.

CNN interview was so weak. Without a script she does not know what to say.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

CNN interview was so weak. Without a script she does not know what to say.

If an interviewer asks her a question she almost seems offended, lol. Takes 3 minutes to gather herself. 

[placeholder]

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I have to say I feel extremely good about Trump's chances to win. MSNBC's Steve Kornacki shows Trump behind only 3 points, but at the same time, Labor day, against Clinton he was  down 5 points and won, and against Biden he was down 9 and made it extremely close.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/kornacki-harris-is-up-3-points-against-trump-nationally-218525765638

 

With only 3 behind on Labor day, this race is Trump's to lose. He just needs fracking country Pennsylvania and he's as good as in.

But it's also possible times have changed. After the Supreme Court's Dobb decision, Democrats way over performed what the polls predicted for special elections. So it may be that the polls are actually undercounting  support for Harris this time.

[Cameroni]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

But it's also possible times have changed. After the Supreme Court's Dobb decision, Democrats way over performed what the polls predicted for special elections. So it may be that the polls are actually undercounting  support for Harris this time.

 

What would be the evidence for the polls undecounting support for Harris? I think the opposite is much more likely, because most people are terrified to admit they'd vote for Trump. So polls are not very reliable with Trump's supporters, as evidenced by the fact that it was HIM who totally confounded pollster with Clinton, and again with Biden. Personally I think, since most voters would not admit to voting Trump, even when they fully intend to, we will see another surge for Trump on election day. Bear in mind that Kamala Harris already has the exact 13 point lead with women, which Clinton also had, but Trump is only ahead 5 with men, so there's a bit of room there.

 

It could be that times have changed, in that polls are now more accurate, but pollsters themselves claim their polls are not the final word and that it's difficult to predict what will actually happen.

Edited September 4 by Cameroni

[maesariang]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

If an interviewer asks her a question she almost seems offended, lol. Takes 3 minutes to gather herself. 

She is a people pleaser. That is her personality type. Tough questions put her off guard. She wants people to address her softly and she hides her nerves behind her stupid laugh. People pleasers have always made the worst leaders because they always flip flop. Kevin Rudd was a people pleaser and was the worst PM in the country's history.

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What would be the evidence for the polls undecounting support for Harris? I think the opposite is much more likely, because most people are terrified to admit they'd vote for Trump. So polls are not very reliable with Trump's supporters, as evidenced that it was HIM who totally confounded pollster with Clinton, and again with Biden. Personally I think, since most voters would not admit to voting Trump, even when they fully intend to, we will see another surge for Trump on election day. Bear in mind that Kamala Harris already has the exact 13 point lead with women, but Trump is only ahead 5 with men, so there's a bit of room there.

 

It could be that times have changed, in that polls are now more accurate, but pollsters themselves claim their polls are not the final word and that i's difficult to predict what will actually happen.

Because part of polling is determining the turnout rates for different cohorts. And in those special races, it looks like that is what happened. And why would Trump be running scared and foolish on the abortion issue if he didn't see it as a threat?

Edited September 4 by placeholder

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

What would be the evidence for the polls undecounting support for Harris? I think the opposite is much more likely, because most people are terrified to admit they'd vote for Trump. So polls are not very reliable with Trump's supporters, as evidenced that it was HIM who totally confounded pollster with Clinton, and again with Biden. Personally I think, since most voters would not admit to voting Trump, even when they fully intend to, we will see another surge for Trump on election day. Bear in mind that Kamala Harris already has the exact 13 point lead with women, but Trump is only ahead 5 with men, so there's a bit of room there.

 

It could be that times have changed, in that polls are now more accurate, but pollsters themselves claim their polls are not the final word and that i's difficult to predict what will actually happen.

You're asking for evidence the polls are incorrect. We'll have to wait and see for that.

[Pouatchee]

14 hours ago, stoner said:

 

unlike the extreme left polls eh. 

 

well put!

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

You're asking for evidence the polls are incorrect. We'll have to wait and see for that.

They were massively incorrect before. The errors were larger in 2020 than 2016.