GOP Urges Trump to Accept Second Debate with Harris

[Social Media]

 

Allies of former President Donald Trump are encouraging him to participate in a second debate with Vice President Kamala Harris after her strong performance on Tuesday night, effectively placing the decision in Trump's hands. Harris’s team quickly called for another debate, while Trump has so far refused to commit. Some Senate Republicans believe a second debate could be advantageous for Trump. “I think it would be an opportunity,” said Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), a key supporter. “If I was in Trump’s position, I would.”

 

Since Harris joined the Democratic ticket, Trump and the GOP have struggled to define her, with many Republicans feeling that Trump missed a crucial opportunity on Tuesday. Rather than focusing on policy differences, Trump was criticized for being drawn into unnecessary tangents, including a widely criticized reference to an online conspiracy theory about Haitian immigrants in Ohio. “I believe we missed a lot of opportunities last night,” said Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), who agreed that a second debate could be beneficial. “It makes a lot more sense to, instead of talking about cats and dogs, talk about 1.5 million got-aways,” he added.

 

However, not all Republicans are on board with the idea of another debate. “I wouldn’t ever debate again in a liberal setting. I don’t think it should be at CNN, I don’t think it needs to be at ABC. He’s done two of those,” said Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.), suggesting that Fox News or another conservative outlet should host the next meeting. Fox News has already proposed three dates in October for a debate, which would likely be moderated by anchors Bret Baier and Martha McCallum.

 

Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.), a top Trump supporter, offered a cautious take. “That’s up to him. That’s up to them to decide. Although, usually if you’re winning, you don’t want another debate, so it’s curious that the Harris people want one.” He suggested that the Harris campaign might be concerned about the race's trajectory, particularly in light of recent polling.

Harris’s campaign argued that the American people deserve a second opportunity to see the candidates before November. Trump responded late Tuesday by claiming Harris wants another debate “because she lost tonight.” On Wednesday morning, he expressed uncertainty about participating in another debate, saying on Fox News, “I don’t know that I want to do another debate.”

 

Despite multiple surveys indicating that Harris was widely viewed as the winner of Tuesday’s debate, questions remain about whether her performance will translate into increased voter support. Many Democrats, who were anxious before the debate, were buoyed by the outcome and are eager for a repeat performance. “I’d certainly enjoy watching a repeat,” said Sen. Peter Welch (D-Vt.). “It was a wonder to behold. She was so confident and down to earth and in command.”

 

Democrats argue that Harris could benefit from another debate, given that she is still not fully known to some voters, especially compared to Trump, who has had high name recognition for years. A recent New York Times poll found that 28 percent of likely voters felt they needed to know more about Harris, while only 9 percent said the same about Trump.

 

Democrats are also aware that voters have a more favorable view of Trump’s presidency in hindsight, and they see another debate as an opportunity to challenge that perception. “She needs to prosecute the case that he was a bad president and that he’s only gotten worse since then,” said a Democratic operative.

 

While some acknowledge that Harris’s performance set high expectations for a future debate, top Democrats believe the potential benefits outweigh the risks. “I like it when my team wins 10-0, but I also like it when my team wins 8-2,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), expressing confidence in Harris’s ability to perform well again.

 

Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) noted Harris’s busy schedule but encouraged her to debate again if she feels capable of balancing it with her other commitments. “If she believes she can have another one and still do all of these other things that she has to do around the whole country, then I would say, you know, do it.”

 

Meanwhile, the debate about the debate continues, with Trump criticizing ABC and other networks, raising questions about whether he will participate. Some Republicans, like former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, warned that Harris could gain from another debate, while others, including Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), believe Trump could benefit if he manages to stay on message and counter Harris effectively. Former Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.) expressed skepticism about Trump’s ability to improve in a second debate, noting that discipline and focus would be key to his success.

 

Credit: The Hill 2024-09-13

 

 

 

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[thaibeachlovers]

36 minutes ago, Social Media said:

Harris’s campaign argued that the American people deserve a second opportunity to see the candidates before November.

Sooo, only of benefit to her. If anyone in the US doesn't already know everything they need to about Trump they must have been living in a cave since 2016.

 

I thought it a mistake for Trump to play her game this time and more so about a future debate.

[thaibeachlovers]

41 minutes ago, Social Media said:

Some Republicans, like former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, warned that Harris could gain from another debate, while others, including Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), believe Trump could benefit if he manages to stay on message and counter Harris effectively.

IMO there is as much chance of Trump "staying on message" as snow on the sun.

If he did, he would not be Trump.

[jerrymahoney]

Trump: No more debates with Kamala Harris
By Reuters
September 13, 20243:10 AM GMT+7Updated an hour ago

 

Sept 12 (Reuters) - Republican nominee Donald Trump said on Thursday he would not participate in another presidential debate against Kamala Harris ahead of the Nov. 5 election, after several polls showed his Democratic rival won their debate earlier this week.

 

"THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!" the former president wrote on social media site Truth Social. Trump had participated in a debate against President Joe Biden in June before his debate against Harris on Tuesday.
 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-not-participate-another-debate-with-kamala-harris-2024-09-12/

[Dcheech]

On the afternoon news feed from  N.A. Donald Trump said he will not debate K Harris a second time.

 

Smart call. How could he do any better than the first debate?! Another debate closer to the election, will just highlight The Donald's incompetence and bad qualities for undecided and less motivated voters. 

[Lacessit]

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO there is as much chance of Trump "staying on message" as snow on the sun.

If he did, he would not be Trump.

Are we seeing a conversion on the road to Damascus?

[thaibeachlovers]

20 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Trump: No more debates with Kamala Harris
By Reuters
September 13, 20243:10 AM GMT+7Updated an hour ago

 

Sept 12 (Reuters) - Republican nominee Donald Trump said on Thursday he would not participate in another presidential debate against Kamala Harris ahead of the Nov. 5 election, after several polls showed his Democratic rival won their debate earlier this week.

 

"THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!" the former president wrote on social media site Truth Social. Trump had participated in a debate against President Joe Biden in June before his debate against Harris on Tuesday.
 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-not-participate-another-debate-with-kamala-harris-2024-09-12/

First sensible thing he's done since he agreed to the first debate with her.

[spidermike007]

No reason for Harris to agree. Though, she would cream him again, if she did. He simply cannot handle a smart woman. Period. 

 

There were certainly some classic moments, nobody knew that populations of dogs were being stir fried, and cats were being served breaded, and devoured in the Midwest by hungry and unruly immigrant populations. 

 

I was also unaware of the fact that Putin invaded Ukraine because the US withdrew from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment behind, that came as a surprise to me. I also thought it was $7 billion worth of equipment, but Trump insisted it was $85 billion. 

 

I also found the claim that Russia will exit Ukraine either right after Trump is elected or possibly even before he even takes office, rather impressive. 

 

I was also very surprised to learn that if Harris gets elected Israel will cease to exist as a state within 24 months. 

 

I was also shocked to learn that both Harris and her father are practicing Marxists.

 

I was also shocked to hear Trump's claim of Biden creating the highest unemployment since the Great Depression, however I looked it up and it was actually Trump that had 14.8%. Granted, some of that was due to Covid. 

 

I was very surprised to hear that they had a baby execution system in place in Virginia, however I looked into it and found out it was a statement that the former Governor, who is a doctor, had made about a nonviable fetus which is born, and then rather than put it on a useless life support system, the parent decides to let it go. I guess I understand the confusion as Trump himself doesn't really know where he stands on abortion, and since not putting a baby on life support which is not going to live anyway would not be considered an abortion that even adds to his confusion. 

 

I had no idea that Harris wants to support transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison that was absolutely shocking news that an ever reliable and honest Trump delivered. 

 

It was very refreshing to hear that Trump still has the biggest rallies in the history of politics and that nobody ever leaves his rallies early out of boredom. 

 

I had no idea that the companies that Trump imposed tariffs on, while he was president, paid the actual tariff on products that were imported into the US. That came as a complete surprise to me, I thought it was the American consumers that were paying the whole time. And I also thought it contributed to inflation, and helped to start the current inflationary cycle. 

 

It was very surprising and alarming to hear that the immigrants that are coming into the US are coming directly from prisons and mental institutions. I had no idea that all these countries were emptying out their prisons and mental institutions and directing those people to travel to the US. 

 

I was shocked to hear that Harris was responsible for the January 6th attack on the capitol and that Nancy Pelosi did a poor job with security, so I had to look into it again, and I found out that the speaker of the house has no capacity when it comes to Capital Security, nor does she have any capacity to turn down a request for National guardsman. 

 

His debate performance was an embarrassment, even by the low standards one must apply to his minor, declining intellect. 

 

Stir fried dogs and cats? Israel will no longer exist 24 months after she takes office? I will end the war in Ukraine, possibly even before I take office. Dictators are wonderful. 

 

She baited him, and he swallowed hook, line and sinker. What a goon. What a fool. He not only lost the debate, he got bloodied, and knocked out cold, in the first 5 minutes. He was struggling for oxygen. He was flailing. He deserved to lose. 

 

 

 

 

 

[mushroomdave]

[TheFishman1]

Jump looks like an idiot at the bay

[2baht]

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

"THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!" the former president wrote on social media site Truth Social.

She's got the lying old wimp on the run! Go girl!!!

[2baht]

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

He simply cannot handle a smart woman. Period. 

Of course he can't! Imagine an EX President (himself) being stiffed for $130,000 from a whore. Doesn't make him look very smart, does it!

[Tug]

Oh it’s gonna take some serious blubbering sniveling then massive amounts of flattering and boot licking before our precious little trust fund baby could possibly face any criticism or real questions.pathetic little coward……..

[mfd101]

So Act II, Scene I has been cancelled?

 

Sob sob, can I get a refund?

[Lacessit]

One has to wonder what world of delusion Trump lives in, when he claims he won on Truth Social. Or is that just for his pitiable followers?

[impulse]

Just to be fair, have Fox moderate.  Or Joe Rogan.

 

[JonnyF]

There will not be another debate.

 

Trump would insist on impartial moderators this time and then Harris would not agree. 

 

That's it folks. Roll on November. 

 

 

[StandardIssue]

He chickened out already with the cheap excuse that only a loser wants a rematch LOL! He's scared because she kicked his a$$.

[Chomper Higgot]

56 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

No reason for Harris to agree. Though, she would cream him again, if she did. He simply cannot handle a smart woman. Period. 

 

Once again cowed by a bright, assertive woman.

 

He couldn’t even look at her.

 

He’s a Beta pretending to be an Alpha.

 

Games up!

 

 

 

 

[2baht]

1 minute ago, StandardIssue said:

He's scared because she kicked his a$$.

Well and truly!

[impulse]

1 minute ago, StandardIssue said:

He chickened out already with the cheap excuse that only a loser wants a rematch LOL! He's scared because she kicked his a$$.

 

She didn't kick his ass.  They did.  It was a tag team effort.

 

[StandardIssue]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

There will not be another debate.

 

Trump would insist on impartial moderators this time and then Harris would not agree. 

 

That's it folks. Roll on November. 

 

 

Yea and he still insists he won in 2020 too. Trump will say anything. Why did he agree on this one on ABC in the first place? Are him and his people so inept that they couldn't identify it was not going to be impartial? BS!! Do we want a president who can't figure this kind of thing out?

 

As soon as he loses then he says it was not impartial. Why didn't he know beforehand it wasn't going to be impartial before the debate? LOL! This guy is full of it.

 

he's supposed to be so smart and agrees on doing it on ABC. Why didn't he insist on a venue he thought was going to be unbiased in the first place? I call BS.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

The people spending millions on Trump’s campaign will decide if Trump is going to debate Harris again and they will do so on the basis of where the polls go.

 

If they indicate Trump is heading for certain defeat then he will be told to debate Harris again, he’ll have no other option.

 

 

[StandardIssue]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

She didn't kick his ass.  They did.  It was a tag team effort.

 

 

why didn't he know that before hand then? Why didn't he insist on a venue that he thought was going to be impartial? Easy to say that after he loses.

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

Yea and he still insists he won in 2020 too. Trump will say anything. Why did he agree on this one on ABC in the first place? Are him and his people so inept that they couldn't identify it was not going to be impartial? BS!! Do we want a president who can't figure this kind of thing out?

 

As soon as he loses then he says it was not impartial. Why didn't he know beforehand it wasn't going to be impartial before the debate? LOL! This guy is full of it.

 

 

 

At least you're admitting it was not impartial.

 

I was expecting more gaslighting. Are you sure you're a Democrat? 

[impulse]

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Just now, JonnyF said:

At least you're admitting it was not impartial.

 

I was expecting more gaslighting. Are you sure you're a Democrat? 

 

Another example of goalpost moving.  Yesterday, "it was impartial".  Today, "it wasn't impartial, but that was Trump's own fault".

[StandardIssue]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

At least you're admitting it was not impartial.

 

I was expecting more gaslighting. Are you sure you're a Democrat? 

I am admitting no such thing. HE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPARTIAL, you think it was impartial. I think it was fine. It was the fact that he lost which makes all his supporters say it was impartial AFTER HE LOST.

 

If he performed better there would be no such claims.. come on. Anyways there is no having a rational conversation with MAGA folks. The entire reason they support Trump is because they cannot see the forest for the trees and understand just how much of a sophomoric self serving narcissist this guy is.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

At least you're admitting it was not impartial.

 

I was expecting more gaslighting. Are you sure you're a Democrat? 

 

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

 

Another example of goalpost moving.  Yesterday, "it was impartial".  Today, "it wasn't impartial, but that was Trump's own fault".

No need. It was impartial. For normal candidates answering questions normally. Not bringing up extreme issues and comments that begged to be fact checked. If he stuck to the odd exaggeration or an area that was difficult to fact check on the spot he would have been left unscathed by the moderators. But he is lazy, overconfident, and was held to account. 

[renaissanc]

Reading through the comments I think that many posters either won't admit it or didn't notice that the ABC moderators rigged the debate in Harris's favour. The plan to rig the debate is revealed here:
https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/12/rooke-abc-moderator-straight-up-admits-they-had-to-tip-the-scales-against-trump/

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

No need. It was impartial. For normal candidates answering questions normally. Not bringing up extreme issues and comments that begged to be fact checked. If he stuck to the odd exaggeration or an area that was difficult to fact check on the spot he would have been left unscathed by the moderators. But he is lazy, overconfident, and was held to account. 

 

I'll let Victor Davis Hanson describe the debacle...

 

The Sept. 10th presidential debate went down as expected. Summed up, it was Sappy and the Blob pile on Grouchy.

The swarmy and evasive Vice President Kamala Harris preened, posed and proffered empty platitudes.

 

The ABC moderators proved they were predictably and shamelessly biased.

 

And an irate former President Donald Trump confirmed that he was too touchy and easily triggered.

 

https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/12/victor-davis-hanson-forgettable-warped-debate-donald-trump-kamala-harris-abc/