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18 hours ago, still kicking said:

What does he know about USA he is a Kivi

Don't you know....some people's opinions are like cosmic rays.  They easily pass straight through almost anything so why would you believe they are at all affected by facts or reality. 

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13 hours ago, newnative said:

     I think few believe this.   The 2016 race was very close.  The 2020 race was very close.    I think it would be more accurate to say that most 'here' believe the 2024 election will also be a close one.   When I say 'close' I am referring to the Electoral College vote. 

    I think what most democrats believe will be a 'landslide' will be the popular vote.  Clinton won the popular vote by over 2.8 million votes.  A landslide.  Biden did even better, winning by 7 million votes.  An even bigger landslide.  

    Unfortunately, one of the biggest drawbacks of having the EC is that it can give a very damaging, false impression of a presidential election.  The 2016 and 2020 elections are both good examples.  The democratic candidates won the popular vote by landslides.  The elections were really not close elections at all with regard to which candidate the actual voters wanted as their president.  

    However, both elections are incorrectly viewed as close elections solely because the EC vote was close.  An actual, truly close election would be Kennedy-Nixon, as one example.  Kennedy won by around 117,000 votes.  That's close.  2.8 million?  Not close at all.  Landslide. 

    In two elections, Trump has never even reached 50% of the vote.  The actual voters have soundly rejected him twice, with landslide tallies for the democrat candidate.  The only legitimacy he has is solely due to the Electoral College.  Yet another reason to get rid of it.  

My suggestion to improve the Electoral College is to eliminate the two EC votes each state receives for their Senators.  That change would make the EC votes more accurately represent the population of each state.  Alternatively give each state one extra EC vote that is awarded to the statewide popular vote winner.

 

The less populous states are already given extra representation in the Senate.  There is no need to further over compensate them by giving them additional EC votes.

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7 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

My suggestion to improve the Electoral College is to eliminate the two EC votes each state receives for their Senators.  That change would make the EC votes more accurately represent the population of each state.  Alternatively give each state one extra EC vote that is awarded to the statewide popular vote winner.

 

The less populous states are already given extra representation in the Senate.  There is no need to further over compensate them by giving them additional EC votes.

      I like your idea to eliminate the 2 EC votes each state gets for their Senators.  What troubles me the most about the EC is one candidate winning the popular vote but still losing the election.   I'd like to see extra EC votes awarded to the candidate that wins the nationwide popular vote--maybe 51 votes, one for each state and DC.

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8 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

My suggestion to improve the Electoral College is to eliminate the two EC votes each state receives for their Senators.  That change would make the EC votes more accurately represent the population of each state.  Alternatively give each state one extra EC vote that is awarded to the statewide popular vote winner.

 

The less populous states are already given extra representation in the Senate.  There is no need to further over compensate them by giving them additional EC votes.

If, as I assume, any change to the EC would require a constitutional amendment, you can kiss that idea goodbye. No way the less populated states will allow anything that reduces their chances of electing a POTUS.

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^ One easy way to reform the EC that does not require a constitutional amendment would be for all states to do what Nebraska and Maine already do, that is split their electoral votes to match the percent of their popular votes.  The smaller states would still retain disproportionate voting power, but it would be more representative than the current winner take all system that we currently have.

 

 

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23 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Exactly. That relic of white supremacy ignores the will of the people who have chosen to make their lives in the most decent parts of the USA, as opposed to the racist hinterlands. The electoral college must be scrapped. 

The will of what people, the illegals ruining the cities. What about the will of the residents who have to put up with this trash. Another example of one of these non U.S. trolls around here - and counting.

 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, morrobay said:

The will of what people, the illegals ruining the cities. What about the will of the residents who have to put up with this trash. Another example of one of these non U.S. trolls around here - and counting.

 

 

 

 

Typical racist colonialist invective against the exploited people who merely seek their rights to the property and freedom stolen from them by the capitalist oppressors. The entire structure of the United States is based on racism and, as Tim Walzs education commisioner said, it should be deconstructed.

 

As Kamala says, No No to Deportation.

 

I am an American like you, its just that my eyes have been opened by the joy and promise of the vision that we have based on not what has been, but what will be unburdened by the past. I now believe that men can be women and vice versa at the drop of the hat, that babies are just hunks of flesh, that it is the highest goal of our foreign policy to throw money endlessly at Ukraine, that men should play womens sports, that the taxpayers should fund transgender surgery and reproductive care, that free speech does not include hate speech which we define, that Hamas and Hezbollah are heros, that Jews should be exterminated, that guns should be seized, medical insurance abolished, money handed out, and the border left wide open.

 

I suggest you get with the program before you are squashed like a bug, like Joe Biden showed us on the View or  extinguished like Gia Raimondo says. And dont worry, we will figure out a way to get your felonious sexabusingfatdementedfascistinsurrectionist, just need better marksman.

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Linear correlation to Trumps rise in polls every time Queen know nothing word salad kamala tells the world her great plans foe the economy but can't explain HOW to do it. Wow, she is a total muppet. Ask her protection regime liberal hacks at MSNBC.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Here stellar border record AKA debacle should motivate voters, her supporters, etc to vote FOR TRUMP,....vote accordingly. Kamala is about as smart as a fence post but her supporters have to be somewhat dumber than her if thats possible.

 

 

I don't know who's dumb but it seems you don't really master the quote function! 😀

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