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At The UN Russia Warns the West Against Provoking a Nuclear Power Amid Ukraine Conflict


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1 hour ago, The Old Bull said:

Nonsense, Russia could steam roller over Ukraine any time they chose. Their problem is that a number of pro Russian Ukrainians would be impacted. 

 

Is this satire? Are you suggesting that Putin is willing to allow upwards of 1000 Russian youths per day to be slaughtered in order to avoid impacting the tiny minority of Ukrainians that actually support Russia? 

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23 hours ago, Watawattana said:

Not sure any of this is wholly true.  Just one example is that Ukraine's usage of some NATO weapons remains restricted, so it's hardly the 'full force of NATO', or indeed even close to being so.

 

15 hours ago, RayC said:

 

How has the "full force of NATO ... been thrown at Russia ..", when Ukraine is not allowed to use NATO manufactured weapons to strike at targets inside Russia?

 

If only NATO's full force has been deployed at the outset, then this war might be over and the despot in the Kremlin deposed. 

You have bought into the propaganda and under the illusion that this is a war between Russia and Ukraine. In reality, this is a war between NATO and Russia with Ukraine being used as a proxy.
 

Russia has been holding back, keeping arms and troops in reserve, in case NATO troops officially enters the war. It’s not that Ukraine is not allowed to use long range weapons to strike deep inside Russia, it’s that NATO is concerned about the consequences. They have been taken completely by surprise at the strength of the army and economy, because they have been drinking their own kool aid. What Ukraine wants or not has no bearing whatsoever.

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3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

You have bought into the propaganda and under the illusion that this is a war between Russia and Ukraine. In reality, this is a war between NATO and Russia with Ukraine being used as a proxy.

 

I have brought into nothing. The facts speak for themselves: Russia invaded Ukraine. QED.

 

The implication that Russia was goaded into this war by 'The West'/the US/ the EU/ NATO - add/delete as necessary to fit the circumstances - is nothing but a conspiratorial fallacy concocted by those who seek to excuse Putin's actions.

 

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

Russia has been holding back, keeping arms and troops in reserve, in case NATO troops officially enters the war.

 

I have no idea whether this is true and I suspect that you don't either.

 

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

It’s not that Ukraine is not allowed to use long range weapons to strike deep inside Russia, it’s that NATO is concerned about the consequences

 

Whatever the reason, it is a fact. Your comment is superfluous and irrelevant.

 

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

They have been taken completely by surprise at the strength of the army and economy, because they have been drinking their own kool aid. What Ukraine wants or not has no bearing whatsoever.

 

What was that you were saying about propaganda?

 

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