Urgent Request for Information re Death of British Citizen in Thailand

[save the frogs]

13 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

I've raised the girl, now 12 years old, since birth

good man

[hotandsticky]

11 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

 

Thanks.  The father, George, has never been married to the mother.  As George has resided in Thailand for 33 years with only one or two return visits back to the UK I would say it's safe to assume that all of his assets, other than his £11,000 pension, are located in Thailand.  Which then, I assume, can be handled here according to Thai law.  I'm only making educated assumptions at this point but I'll soon find out.

 

 

I would guess that is the UK State pension which ceases on death and has no benefits for spouses/children etc.

Edited 15 hours ago by hotandsticky

[Dan O]

12 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

 

Another cheery post, thanks.  I take it that the nephew cannot divert the father's pension as he has no legal standing.  That has been a concern so to hear that is a relief.  The fraudster friend has possession of the father's ATM cards, the pin numbers, his laptop, and his mobile.  Can he refuse to turn these over to the daughter?  I would think not for neither does he have any standing.

 

When we get to the UK embassy then I will certainly enquire about how to proceed with the father's pension.

Yes the friend has no standing and the nephew does not either unless appoint by the court. One key is to get to the bank and freeze those accounts. Verify if money has been take out after the death. If so make a police report. If the friend does not want to turn over the cards phone and laptop again make a police report.

[Tippaporn]

Okay.  I sent an email to the British embassy requesting a Consular Letter and almost immediately received a reply instructing me to call the embassy.  On the call I provided the information they asked for and they will send an email  back this afternoon with a contact at the embassy.  After I receive that email I will send them a copy of the father's passport, the daughter's UK passport, the mother's Thai ID card, and the police report.  There is no need to have the police report translated.

 

Once they receive those documents then I assume they will issue the Consular Letter.  Hopefully we can have that by tomorrow.

[Tippaporn]

I'm truly amazed.  We received a soft copy of the Consular Letter via email by 4 PM today.  The hard copy is available to be picked up at the embassy with only a two hour notice so that reception can be notified of our arrival.  I've rarely seen government respond so swiftly.

 

When I sent the required documentation to the UK embassy I told my contact that if she needed anything else to feel free to ask me.  I thought it wise to mention that we have certified copies of the father's, the daughter's and the mother's birth certificates.  That is further hard evidence establishing the daughter as the true daughter of the father.  Here is what my embassy contact wrote in reply:

 

If you could send the birth certificates in your own time, that would be much appreciated. It is not needed for the consular letter, but it will be better to provide the confirmation of the relationship between <father> and <daughter>.

 

So, if anyone would dare question the legitimacy of the daughter as the legitimate daughter then the birth certificates establish that with certainty.  The father is listed as the father on daughter's birth certificate.

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm truly amazed.  We received a soft copy of the Consular Letter via email by 4 PM today.  The hard copy is available to be picked up at the embassy with only a two hour notice so that reception can be notified of our arrival.  I've rarely seen government respond so swiftly.

 

When I sent the required documentation to the UK embassy I told my contact that if she needed anything else to feel free to ask me.  I thought it wise to mention that we have certified copies of the father's, the daughter's and the mother's birth certificates.  That is further hard evidence establishing the daughter as the true daughter of the father.  Here is what my embassy contact wrote in reply:

 

If you could send the birth certificates in your own time, that would be much appreciated. It is not needed for the consular letter, but it will be better to provide the confirmation of the relationship between <father> and <daughter>.

 

So, if anyone would dare question the legitimacy of the daughter as the legitimate daughter then the birth certificates establish that with certainty.  The father is listed as the father on daughter's birth certificate.

Glad to hear this part is going smoothly. Hope some of the other areas that you have to deal with good smoothly. Even with that said your ordeal I dont wish on anyone but good on you for helping solve these issues under the circumstances and your relationship position in all this. Hang in their 

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm truly amazed.  We received a soft copy of the Consular Letter via email by 4 PM today. 

 

The British embassy get a lot of stick (often rightly so) for not being helpful in some cases, but in the case of the death of a British citizen, I too was amazed as to how quick, professional and sympathetic the embassy were.

 

Did you ask them for a list of English speaking lawyers?

[dddave]

On 10/7/2024 at 8:15 PM, Tippaporn said:

 

Your advice to retain a lawyer sounds prudent to me.  Do you have a figure that would be reasonable for a lawyer here?  I'm only asking for a figure because i understand that there are unscrupulous lawyers out there who drastically overcharge.

Our suspected fraudster, Edward, made off with George's computer and mobile phone.  Those devices might prove to be difficult to recover if they are useful to the fraudster or if they contain information the fraudster does not want me to have.  I am certain that all of George's assets are to be found on that laptop as George was known to be meticulously organized ala German fashion.     Does Edward have any legal right to be in possession of these devices if Alice demands that they be given her?

When a friend was hit by a car in Pattaya and later died of his injuries, this company was a huge help to me and my friends family.  This company specializes in expat deaths  and the representative that I dealt with was very knowledgeable.  I would say talking with them would be a very good start as this is a very complex situation and mis-information will make your life much more difficult. https://www.amarinternational.com/contact.html

I can't post names or phone numbers here but if you DM me I will inform you who I dealt with.

[theblether]

Have you checked how much is owed to the hospital? 

 

Also, if its a UK state pension then the pension is now defunct.