Thai Hostages Still Missing a Year After Hamas Attack

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A year has passed since the Hamas attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023, and the whereabouts of six Thai hostages taken during the incident remain a mystery. Despite ongoing efforts, there has been no news from Hamas regarding these individuals, according to Orna Sagiv, Israel's ambassador to Thailand.

 

Hamas has refused any interaction with international bodies, like the Red Cross, preventing visits to hostages, heightening concerns about their status. "Unfortunately, we don’t know," stated Sagiv at a commemoration ceremony in Bangkok.

 

Nevertheless, she assured that Israel is dedicated to retrieving the hostages, including the six Thais, and is urging global governments to join in these efforts.

 

Initially, 31 Thais were taken hostage; 23 have since been released, but two have been confirmed dead. The situation remains uncertain for the remaining six.

 

Meanwhile, Israel has taken measures to ensure the safety of approximately 35,000 Thai workers still within its borders. The government has placed these workers in designated green zones, assuring that they are not in high-risk areas.

Sagiv highlighted the Israeli government's proactive steps to protect Thai nationals, including disseminating safety information in Thai and constructing shelters in vulnerable zones.

 

She emphasized the importance of following Israeli safety protocols, such as seeking shelter immediately when sirens blare, to minimise risks.

 

Despite the volatile security environment, these measures have kept most Thai workers safe. The ambassador noted the comparatively low casualty rate amid recent missile attacks, attributing it to strict adherence to safety guidelines.

 

In related developments, information has surfaced about potential threats from Hezbollah, suggesting plans that could replicate last year's tragic events.

 

However, Israel remains vigilant, focusing on preventing such incidents and securing its population, including foreign workers. Sagiv confirmed that efforts are in place to ensure that Thai workers are distant from potential conflict zones in northern Israel, reported Bangkok Post.

 

FILE PHOTO courtesy: MGR Online

 

-- 2024-10-09

 

[Tropicalevo]

I hope that the hostages are still alive and released soon.

Hamas is only one of the evil terrorist organisations plaguing the earth.

I hope that Israel eradicates them completely.

It is not Israel's fault that innocent people are being killed.

It is 100% down to Hamas and the 'not so innocent' Palestinians that support them.

 

[ourmanflint]

Israel treats Thai workers very badly on the kibbutz, Thailand should pull them all out

[ThaiFelix]

4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I hope that the hostages are still alive and released soon.

Hamas is only one of the evil terrorist organisations plaguing the earth.

I hope that Israel eradicates them completely.

It is not Israel's fault that innocent people are being killed.

It is 100% down to Hamas and the 'not so innocent' Palestinians that support them.

 

Yes and i hope Israel will realease the 100's they have arrested and held WITHOUT CHARGES since October 7 and before.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67600015

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/07/israel-must-end-mass-incommunicado-detention-and-torture-of-palestinians-from-gaza/

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-1100-palestinians-said-held-by-israel-without-trial-highest-figure-since-2003/

 

[Tropicalevo]

5 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Israel treats Thai workers very badly on the kibbutz, Thailand should pull them all out

 

They are there of their own free will.

They weren't kidnapped and imprisoned there.

They do not want to be 'pulled out'.

[john donson]

maybe hamas loves thai food now and keeping them as cooks

 

and some little ghosts...

[Nick Carter icp]

8 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Israel treats Thai workers very badly on the kibbutz, Thailand should pull them all out

 

   They cannot be pulled out, they are being held hostage in Gaza

[Greenhill]

12 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Israel treats Thai workers very badly on the kibbutz, Thailand should pull them all out

Proof, please!!!!!

[Greenhill]

4 hours ago, john donson said:

maybe hamas loves thai food now and keeping them as cooks

 

and some little ghosts...

You think it's a joke being in captivity for over 1 year, do you??

[nightfox]

13 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Israel treats Thai workers very badly on the kibbutz, Thailand should pull them all out

They treat team no different then Thais treating Burmese labored works. They stay for the same reason, $$$.

[black tabby12345]

15 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Israel treats Thai workers very badly on the kibbutz, Thailand should pull them all out

 

After I read your post, I checked it out with google.

 

how thai workers are treated in israel? - Google Search

 

Often working for below the minimum wage.

Not getting proper housing/medical treatment.

[watchcat]

15 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

 

They are there of their own free will.

They weren't kidnapped and imprisoned there.

They do not want to be 'pulled out'.

 

Perhaps they should prepare themselves for an overestay fine and deportation.

[connda]

Well on the flip side, there has probably been a couple of hundred Palestinian women and children killed for each hostage taken and for each Israel killed on Oct 7 2023.  That collective terminal punishment should show Hamas a thing or two, 'eh?  I think I saw how effective that was in a movie.  "Kill one of ours we'll kill 100 of yours."  Fair's fair, right?

[Tropicalevo]

5 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

After I read your post, I checked it out with google.

 

how thai workers are treated in israel? - Google Search

 

Often working for below the minimum wage.

Not getting proper housing/medical treatment.

Very few countries (if any) pay immigrant workers the minimum wage.

That is why they let them into the country.

The wage is down to the employer.

The immigrant workers, even though they may be paid below 'the minimum', still earn more than they could back home thus enabling them to send money to their families.

That is why they apply to go there in the first place.

Yes, some employers push the boundaries of what is acceptable - there will always be a few bad apples.

[connda]

5 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

After I read your post, I checked it out with google.

 

how thai workers are treated in israel? - Google Search

 

Often working for below the minimum wage.

Not getting proper housing/medical treatment.

That's how Western aligned countries work.  Underpay the brown people to come and work on the plantation.

[Tropicalevo]

1 minute ago, connda said:

Well on the flip side, there has probably been a couple of hundred Palestinian women and children killed for each hostage taken and for each Israel killed on Oct 7 2023.  That collective terminal punishment should show Hamas a thing or two, 'eh?  I think I saw how effective that was in a movie.  "Kill one of ours we'll kill 100 of yours."  Fair's fair, right?

In wars, there is always collateral damage. Sad but true.

In the case of Gaza, the collateral damage is much higher because the terrorists hide with, behind and even under the innocent ones.

It is all down to Hamas.

 

Israel spent millions of dollars to keep their citizens safe. (Air raid shelters/systems, Iron Dome etc)

Hamas spent millions of dollars building tunnels under hospital etc and buying arms.

Very little (if any) for the citizen's safety.

[connda]

8 hours ago, Greenhill said:

Proof, please!!!!!

You can believe or discount anything you wish.  If you have lived long enough, should have read about this in the past.
"Source or I don't believe."

Well feel free not to believe it.  I've worked in blue-collar jobs where illegal migrants were hired to to the menial work.  I was friends with some of these guys and know first-hand they are paid peanuts compared to citizens. 

"I don't believe you! Grrrrrrr."

I don't care.  Up to you.  My life doesn't revolve around making people like you happen.

"I'm triggered!"

I don't care about that either.  Grow thicker skin.

[connda]

3 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

In wars, there is always collateral damage. Sad but true.

In the case of Gaza, the collateral damage is much higher because the terrorists hide with, behind and even under the innocent ones.

It is all down to Hamas.

 

Israel spent millions of dollars to keep their citizens safe. (Air raid shelters/systems, Iron Dome etc)

Hamas spent millions of dollars building tunnels under hospital etc and buying arms.

Very little (if any) for the citizen's safety.

I love the "common and generally accepted" tropes.

[ourmanflint]

11 hours ago, Greenhill said:

Proof, please!!!!!

Do you not know how Google works? 
 

Quote

Kav La'Oved, a workers' rights charity in Israel, said it was often approached by Thai migrants who were underpaid, kept in unsanitary accommodation and working in unsafe conditions.”

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/labor-abuse-fears-rise-for-thai-migrant-workers-in-israel-under-new-deal-635818

[black tabby12345]

3 hours ago, connda said:

That's how Western aligned countries work.  Underpay the brown people to come and work on the plantation.

 

Modern day cunningly disguised colonialism/slave labor lookalike.

Looks like both Israel & Hamas are just evenly brutal in the way they treat people from outside...

Edited 2 hours ago by black tabby12345

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Modern day cunningly disguised colonialism/slave labor lookalike.

Looks like both Israel & Hamas are just evenly brutal in the way they treat people from outside...

 

   You are comparing peoples working conditions and equating that to being held hostage ?

   Long hours and low pay is the same as being held hostage for a year .

   Now , that would be worthy of a 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, connda said:

That's how Western aligned countries work.  Underpay the brown people to come and work on the plantation.

 

   Thailand also does similar with Burmese and Cambodian workers  , bring them to Thailand as cheap labour .

   Its not just Western aligned Countries that participate in that 

[black tabby12345]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are comparing peoples working conditions and equating that to being held hostage ?

   Long hours and low pay is the same as being held hostage for a year .

   Now , that would be worthy of a 

 

Brutality.

That is one thing they commonly exercise.

Nothing more.

Nothing less.

Neither party looks no better in real term after all.

I am not a reporter; simply quoting what I felt.

End of story.

Edited 1 hour ago by black tabby12345

[MalcolmB]

On 10/9/2024 at 8:39 AM, Tropicalevo said:

I hope that the hostages are still alive and released soon.

Hamas is only one of the evil terrorist organisations plaguing the earth.

I hope that Israel eradicates them completely.

It is not Israel's fault that innocent people are being killed.

It is 100% down to Hamas and the 'not so innocent' Palestinians that support them.

 

They are probably all dead by now.

Buried under the rubble from bombs dropped by Israeli planes.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Brutality.

That is one thing they commonly exercise.

Nothing more.

Nothing less.

Neither party looks no better after all.

End of story.

 

   Holding a person hostage is brutal .

Working long hours isn't brutal , long hours and low pay applies to many people world wide .

   They are not similar at all .

Holding a person hostage isn't comparable to pay and working conditions .

   Its a war crime to hold a person hostage , whilst its not illegal  for a person to work on a minimum  wage  salary .

    Comparing a war crime to a long working day 🙂

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

They are probably all dead by now.

Buried under the rubble from bombs dropped by Israeli planes.

 

   That is reserved for woman and children , adult males  aren't allowed there , only for woman and children 🙂

[ChicagoExpat]

3 hours ago, connda said:

That's how Western aligned countries work.  Underpay the brown people to come and work on the plantation.

Wow.  "Western aligned countries" underpay brown people?  You strongly imply the "non-Western aligned countries" therefore are morally superior.  And yet.... most brown people in the world want to leave their non-Western aligned country to go to a Western-aligned country.

 

How to explain that?  I can... the demand for racism by people like you is greater than the actual supply, so you invent it.

[ChicagoExpat]

10 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

They are probably all dead by now.

Buried under the rubble from bombs dropped by Israeli planes.

Or tortured to death by Palestinians.  Hard to know which scenario is more likely.

[ChicagoExpat]

4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

In wars, there is always collateral damage. Sad but true.

In the case of Gaza, the collateral damage is much higher because the terrorists hide with, behind and even under the innocent ones.

It is all down to Hamas.

 

Israel spent millions of dollars to keep their citizens safe. (Air raid shelters/systems, Iron Dome etc)

Hamas spent millions of dollars building tunnels under hospital etc and buying arms.

Very little (if any) for the citizen's safety.

Israel could kill a million Gazans, and they'd STILL have shown more consideration for them than Hamas, who purposefully created the conditions for that exact outcome.

[black tabby12345]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Holding a person hostage is brutal .

Working long hours isn't brutal , long hours and low pay applies to many people world wide .

   They are not similar at all .

Holding a person hostage isn't comparable to pay and working conditions .

   Its a war crime to hold a person hostage , whilst its not illegal  for a person to work on a minimum  wage  salary .

    Comparing a war crime to a long working day 🙂

 

Sorry to say:

Quoting one bigger evil(e.g war crime).

It will not really beautify any other forms of institutionalized violence(evil acts in the system at peace time; such  as over economic exploitation).

Some crimes are simply more visible than others(not involving military attack on civilian population).

That is nothing to be bragged/justified.

They are both ugly wrongdoings; only in different shapes

That's all.