Thai worker killed by leftover ammunition in Israeli orchard

[snoop1130]

 

The explosion in northern Israel that claimed the life of 42 year old Thai worker Nisan Meerum, prompted the Ministry of Labour to extend its condolences and seek answers from the Population and Immigration Authority (PIBA) regarding the deployment of Thai labourers in a closed military zone.

 

Israeli government officials and the Royal Thai Embassy in Tel Aviv reported the death of Nisan, a native of Buriram province, on Saturday, October 12. The explosion that occurred while he was working in an apple orchard, involved leftover ammunition.

 

Labour Ministry permanent secretary Bunsong Tapchaiyut stated that Thai officials are currently awaiting confirmation of Nisan’s identity from Israeli officials before repatriating his body for religious rites in Thailand. The government has assured that Nisan’s family will receive all entitled benefits.

 

Minister of Labour Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn expressed deep condolences to the families affected by the incident. He mentioned that the ministry is working to verify with PIBA whether the accident site was indeed in a closed military zone and the reasons Thai workers were permitted to enter. Additionally, the ministry is also waiting for a detailed report from the Israeli government on the incident.

 

Nisan’s wife, 43 year old Phrueksa Meeram recounted that her husband first went to work in Israel in December 2020. He returned in October last year following the outbreak of the Israel-Hamas conflict. However, about seven months later, his Israeli employer requested he return to complete his five-year and three-month employment contract.

Despite family opposition due to safety concerns, Nisan returned to Israel in June, driven by financial pressures. Phrueksa mentioned that she communicated with her husband daily out of concern for his safety. Her last call to him was at 10am on Friday local time. Subsequent messages went unanswered until a co-worker informed her of his death.

 

Explosion casualty

 

The Thai embassy in Tel Aviv later confirmed that a bomb in the apple orchard had exploded on Saturday morning.

 

Bangkok Post revealed that a Thai colleague shared that he was part of a group of 24 Thai workers in the orchard at the time of the explosion. The colleague recounted that four rows of workers were picking apples, with Nisan in the second row.

 

Upon hearing the explosion, the workers ducked for cover until another worker shouted that Nisan had been killed. Soldiers arrived to remove Nisan’s body and none of the other Thai workers saw him again.

 

The Israeli Defence Forces declared five new closed military zones in northern Israel near the Lebanon border on Saturday. These zones include Zarit, Shomera, Shtula, Netuya, Even Menachem, Rosh Hanikra, Shlomi, Hanita, Adamit, Arab al-Aramshe, Metula, Misgav Am, Kfar Giladi, Dovev, Tziv’on, and Malkia.

 

By Ryan Turner

Image: NPR

 

 

Source: The Thaiger

-- 2024-10-14

 

 

 

[newbee2022]

I dislike the Israel govt everyday a bit more. There are the most dangerous war mongering govt ever. 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I dislike the Israel govt everyday a bit more. There are the most dangerous war mongering govt ever. 

 

   You have that opinion because you hate Israel and Israelis .

   The Israeli Government is reacting to being attacked . 

Hamas and Hezbollah attacked Israel , those two groups are the war mongers who provoked a war .

   Israel just fought back against the attackers 

[Watawattana]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You have that opinion because you hate Israel and Israelis .

   The Israeli Government is reacting to being attacked . 

Hamas and Hezbollah attacked Israel , those two groups are the war mongers who provoked a war .

   Israel just fought back against the attackers 

Whilst I understand your reply, I suspect many on the other side of the fence might say that Oct 7th is because of the many wrongs that Israel has visited on the Palestinian people. 
 

We all know 2 wrongs don’t make a right. In the case of this conflict that has gone on since at least the middle of the last century, there have been thousands of wrongs and few rights. 
 

I take no sides in this conflict. They are all in the wrong. 
 

In the case of the incident in question, this is a crime in my eyes. Likely manslaughter through gross negligence.  That poor soul should never have been there, the person accountable for that ammunition and its placement is a criminal in my eyes. 

[metisdead]

An off topic deflection post has been removed.

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I dislike the Israel govt everyday a bit more. There are the most dangerous war mongering govt ever. 

USA a close second?

[newbee2022]

42 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

USA a close second?

Definitely!!!

[soalbundy]

12 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I dislike the Israel govt everyday a bit more. There are the most dangerous war mongering govt ever. 

Their reaction to being attacked can be explained by their European history. I, for one, admire their tenacity as well as not ignoring their wrong doing regarding the Palestinians. Having a history of genocide practiced against them and then have their state surrounded by enemies can explain much.

[newbee2022]

2 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Their reaction to being attacked can be explained by their European history. I, for one, admire their tenacity as well as not ignoring their wrong doing regarding the Palestinians. Having a history of genocide practiced against them and then have their state surrounded by enemies can explain much.

Does history explains that they drag the West into a new war? 

[soalbundy]

6 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Does history explains that they drag the West into a new war? 

The west isn't in a war in the middle east although Britain and France have caused enough reason to be involved in one from past colonial decisions and Israel can't 'drag' anybody into one. Historically Jews have been persecuted and cheated for centuries by various European countries, pogroms were useful for states to avoid paying debts to wealthy groups of Jewish merchants.

[Tropicalevo]

36 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Their reaction to being attacked can be explained by their European history. I, for one, admire their tenacity as well as not ignoring their wrong doing regarding the Palestinians. Having a history of genocide practiced against them and then have their state surrounded by enemies can explain much.

Many people are confused about who is committing genocide in the conflict.

Hamas are the only one s that tick all of the boxes on genocide.

From  https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

 

1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
   • Killing members of the group
   • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
   • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
   • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
   • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

[newbee2022]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

The west isn't in a war in the middle east although Britain and France have caused enough reason to be involved in one from past colonial decisions and Israel can't 'drag' anybody into one. Historically Jews have been persecuted and cheated for centuries by various European countries, pogroms were useful for states to avoid paying debts to wealthy groups of Jewish merchants.

I can't agree. Europe and US send weapons to Israel for many decades. Why?

Wouldn't it a better way to force Israel into a peace by creating a Palestine, same as Israel was created once? Israel is not a western country but surrounded by Arabs in an Arabian world, which they are part of. Unfortunately there are a lot of in US Administration who are Jewish. And other Govt just feel guilty because of the holocaust. 

This artificial Israel has to defend themselves without support of US, bombing Jemen. And next Iran? And peace by sanctions, as it's exelerating now against Iran will not secure a peace. Sanctions never worked in history.

Israel will be forced into peace if they stand alone.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I can't agree. Europe and US send weapons to Israel for many decades. Why?

Wouldn't it a better way to force Israel into a peace by creating a Palestine, same as Israel was created once? Israel is not a western country but surrounded by Arabs in an Arabian world, which they are part of. Unfortunately there are a lot of in US Administration who are Jewish. And other Govt just feel guilty because of the holocaust. 

This artificial Israel has to defend themselves without support of US, bombing Jemen. And next Iran? And peace by sanctions, as it's exelerating now against Iran will not secure a peace. Sanctions never worked in history.

Israel will be forced into peace if they stand alone.

 

   Israel accepts a Palestinian state and did accept a two state solution, its the Palestinians who did not and will not accept the Israeli state and they wage war .

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

I can't agree. Europe and US send weapons to Israel for many decades. Why?

Wouldn't it a better way to force Israel into a peace by creating a Palestine, same as Israel was created once? Israel is not a western country but surrounded by Arabs in an Arabian world, which they are part of. Unfortunately there are a lot of in US Administration who are Jewish. And other Govt just feel guilty because of the holocaust. 

This artificial Israel has to defend themselves without support of US, bombing Jemen. And next Iran? And peace by sanctions, as it's exelerating now against Iran will not secure a peace. Sanctions never worked in history.

Israel will be forced into peace if they stand alone.

They don't stand alone, I rather think that Israel is being used as a proxy by the west, especially with regard to Iran.

[BangkokReady]

37 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Many people are confused about who is committing genocide in the conflict.

Hamas are the only one s that tick all of the boxes on genocide.

From  https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

 

1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
   • Killing members of the group
   • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
   • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
   • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
   • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

 

Israel have clearly been doing this to the Palestinians.

[Yagoda]

13 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I dislike the Israel govt everyday a bit more. There are the most dangerous war mongering govt ever. 

I look askance at folks who dislike  the Israeli government because, as such, they are supporters of the enemy in Islams existential war against the west.

 

It was probably unexploded terrorist ordinance. RIP to the victim of Islamic terrorism. Keep on bombing Benny, thanks for doing Americas light work. 

[Yagoda]

48 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Many people are confused about who is committing genocide in the conflict.

Hamas are the only one s that tick all of the boxes on genocide.

From  https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

 

1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
   • Killing members of the group
   • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
   • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
   • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
   • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

We all know what genocide is, and what Israel is doing isnt it.

[Nick Carter icp]

15 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Israel have clearly been doing this to the Palestinians.

 

   No they haven't . 

Israel are at war with the terror group Hamas .

Hamas attempted genocide on Israel on Oct 7 th 

[BangkokReady]

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No they haven't . 

Israel are at war with the terror group Hamas.

 

Yes they have.  They've been systematically killing and displacing innocent Palestinian civilians for about a year now.

 

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Hamas attempted genocide on Israel on Oct 7 th 

 

I don't think one attack can count as genocide.  Perhaps you should check the meaning.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Yes they have.  They've been systematically killing and displacing innocent Palestinian civilians for about a year now.

 

 

I don't think one attack can count as genocide.  Perhaps you should check the meaning.

 

   It was one attack on Oct 7 th  because Israel pushed back against the Palestinians and Palestinians would have carried on killing Israelis if they hadn't been stopped, so it was an attempted genocide  .

  But , need to get back on topic 

[newbee2022]

25 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I look askance at folks who dislike  the Israeli government because, as such, they are supporters of the enemy in Islams existential war against the west.

 

It was probably unexploded terrorist ordinance. RIP to the victim of Islamic terrorism. Keep on bombing Benny, thanks for doing Americas light work. 

If America would once try to live in peace, it would not have enemies. Did you count the wars US started after WW2 or was involved in? Including idiotic attempts to topple uncomfortable govts.

[BangkokReady]

21 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 It was one attack on Oct 7 th  because Israel pushed back against the Palestinians and Palestinians would have carried on killing Israelis if they hadn't been stopped, so it was an attempted genocide  .

 

 

It's doubtful that they imagined that they would carry out a genocide, even if they intended to kill as many Israelis as possible.  Still, whatever your thoughts on the attack in question, it doesn't justify the continued genocide against the Palestinian people by the Israelis.

Edited 25 minutes ago by BangkokReady

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

 

It's doubtful that they imagined that they would carry out a genocide, even if they indented to kill as many Israelis as possible.  Still, whatever your thoughts on the attack in question, it doesn't justify the continued genocide against the Palestinian people by the Israelis.

 

  There was a Court case at the ICJ and Israel wasn't found to be committing genocide . that was the Court ruling 

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

  There was a Court case at the ICJ and Israel wasn't found to be committing genocide . that was the Court ruling 

 

Pretty clear that they're committing genocide.

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

Pretty clear that they're committing genocide.

 

  Its just a normal war and people get killed and displaced in wars , happens all the time , nothing out the ordinary 

[Tropicalevo]

44 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Israel have clearly been doing this to the Palestinians.

Israel have not - they have not kidnapped anyone. Stolen children.

Yes, there have been casualties in Gaza but that it because Hamas does not follow the Geneva convention.

They hide behind innocent children, under hospitals and schools, creating human shields.

In all wars, there is collateral damage, but here, that is is 100% down to Hamas.

Israel did not invade Gaza and kill, rape, maim and kidnap innocent civilians.
Hamas did that to Israel.

There is no historical justification for that.

Hamas are the only ones that can stop the conflict.

ALL that they have to do is to return the hostages and hand over the murderers.

There is a recoding of Hamas fighters at the concert who phoned his parents saying "Dad, be proud of your son. I am killing the Jews"

That shows genocide.

 

That recording was quoted on AN.

 

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

They don't stand alone, I rather think that Israel is being used as a proxy by the west, especially with regard to Iran.

That's what I said. Thank you to repeat

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Pretty clear that they're committing genocide.

Well I guess they are in good company, no worse than what we did in Germany and Japan. Cool.

 

Should have saved a bunch of money as used a nuke, like we did. Bet that would make the murderous rats come out of their holes.

[BangkokReady]

7 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Israel have not - they have not kidnapped anyone. Stolen children.

 

They've done that loads.  And killed a lot of children also.

 

7 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Yes, there have been casualties in Gaza but that it because Hamas does not follow the Geneva convention.

 

Israel are trying to kill and displace as many Palestinians as possible.  That much is clear.

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well I guess they are in good company, no worse than what we did in Germany and Japan. Cool.

 

Who committed genocide in Germany and Japan?