Effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination in children and adolescents

[Red Phoenix]

This major study involves 1.7 million children but is not peer-reviewed yet, although it already dates from May 2024. 

But it features an interesting fact. 

The study found that heart damage only appeared in children who had received Covid mRNA vaccines.

Not a single unvaccinated child in the group suffered from heart-related problems.

In addition, the researchers note zero children from the entire group, vaccinated or unvaccinated, died from COVID-19.

 

> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.05.20.24306810v1.full.pdf

[johng]

Thanks @Red Phoenix  

[0ffshore360]

6 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

This major study involves 1.7 million children but is not peer-reviewed yet, although it already dates from May 2024. 

But it features an interesting fact. 

The study found that heart damage only appeared in children who had received Covid mRNA vaccines.

Not a single unvaccinated child in the group suffered from heart-related problems.

In addition, the researchers note zero children from the entire group, vaccinated or unvaccinated, died from COVID-19.

 

> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.05.20.24306810v1.full.pdf

You can expect  some/much caustic fallout for posting such  material.

Personally I believe it is important to present and/or challenge  dictate of  mass mandated approval of inflictions on children in particular.

 

 

[johng]

5 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

You can expect  some/much caustic fallout for posting such  material.

Yes its quite damning evidence  I expect every effort to sweep it under the carpet.

[thesetat2013]

3 minutes ago, johng said:

Yes its quite damning evidence  I expect every effort to sweep it under the carpet.

Especially from the Pro-Covid vaccine supporters. It amazes me there are not thousands even millions of lawsuits against the manufacturers for pushing the vaccine to most of the world. A get rich quick scheme with barely any testing prior to its distribution and forced acceptance.. But I would bet that governments have given immunity to them anyway. Since there were so many bad repercussions against anyone who talked against taking the vaccine. You could not post anywhere if something bad happened when you took the vaccine. Not even in social media. It was like the powers that be wanted only good things said so everyone would want to take it. 

[johng]

8 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

It amazes me there are not thousands even millions of lawsuits against the manufacturers

They where given indemnity ie: they cannot be sued ! the injured party has to try and sue the government   however there are some lawsuits in  process  trying to overturn that indemnity  by establishing that the  manufactures fraudulently 

claimed  100 % "safe and effective"  ( remember that ? )  and knew that it was anything but.

[brewsterbudgen]

While there's no doubt the Covid vaccine was a life saver for millions of adults, I thought it had always been understood that children were extremely unlikely to suffer any serious consequences from Covid, so why would they be vaccinated?

[johng]

39 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

children were extremely unlikely to suffer any serious consequences from Covid, so why would they be vaccinated?

Because the "powers that be"  mandated,coerced and shamed parents into it ?

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

While there's no doubt the Covid vaccine was a life saver for millions of adults,

That's what they want you to believe...

[owl sees all]

13 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

While there's no doubt the Covid vaccine was a life saver for millions of adults, I thought it had always been understood that children were extremely unlikely to suffer any serious consequences from Covid, so why would they be vaccinated?

 

Giving ANYvaxxes to children is simply madness. There are moves underway to give chicken pox jabs to 12 month olds. What!!??

 

What is the point of any jab? To protect from a virus that has never been shown to exist, let alone cause harm? The whole big pharma medical, WHO house of cards needs to be collapsed.

 

Nature has all the answers we seek.

 

This post is my opinion. Although built upon decades of research. Anyone disagreeing can do their own and find their truths. Let's debate.

[brewsterbudgen]

24 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

 

Giving ANYvaxxes to children is simply madness. There are moves underway to give chicken pox jabs to 12 month olds. What!!??

 

What is the point of any jab? To protect from a virus that has never been shown to exist, let alone cause harm? The whole big pharma medical, WHO house of cards needs to be collapsed.

 

Nature has all the answers we seek.

 

This post is my opinion. Although built upon decades of research. Anyone disagreeing can do their own and find their truths. Let's debate.

 

Why does Admin allow nonsense and dangerous posts from Anti-vax nutters?

[owl sees all]

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Why does Admin allow nonsense and dangerous posts from Anti-vax nutters?

Can't have an opinion that differs from yours eh Brewster?

Can't debate, cause you would surely lose. So! Hint, hint towards admin.

 

Under an electron microscope, a 'virus' is  indistinguishable from some other decaying parts of the cell. When the cells breaks down, it is expelled from the body. The body is not stupid. It don't do things for nothing. The different parts of the decaying cells, and tissue, are coated, packaged and eliminated; mostly through breathing. What part do viruses play in this particular part of the replenishing cycle?

 

There are as many as one billion cells being gotten rid of each day. They are - in a healthy body - renewed. It's an on-going process.

 

Who says I'm anti-jab. I've had 20 this year. Just hope she don't discover the right cross or left hook.

 

 

[dinsdale]

4 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Why does Admin allow nonsense and dangerous posts from Anti-vax nutters?

Please explain why this is nonsense. I think many of us would like to hear. Do you think young healthy people needed to and still need to be vaccinated for SarsCov-2 with mRNA vaccines? It would also be interesting to see your reasoning as to why a person who does not want to take the mRNA vaccine is an anti-vaxxer. This of course was part of the demonising campaign and completely without merit.

[KhunLA]

That sadly, is no surprise to me.  Only surprised it hasn't been deleted yet 

 

IMHO ... IMHO  ... that title could apply to all that received or didn't receive the vaccine.

 

Just my opinion of course

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Please explain why this is nonsense. I think many of us would like to hear. Do you think young healthy people needed to and still need to be vaccinated for SarsCov-2 with mRNA vaccines? It would also be interesting to see your reasoning as to why a person who does not want to take the mRNA vaccine is an anti-vaxxer. This of course was part of the demonising campaign and completely without merit.

I was commenting on the anti-vaxxer who said it was "madness" to give ANY vaccines to children. 

[owl sees all]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I was commenting on the anti-vaxxer who said it was "madness" to give ANY vaccines to children. 

 

 

What jabs are good for our children Brewster? Please tell. Most of the past jabs were rolled out well after the disease had past.

 

If you become a disciple of nature - you already are part of it - you would understand that it has all the answers we seek. Consider a big strong oak tree. Wasn't born in a petri dish was it?

 

And while we are about it. Try to find one image of a virus.

 

Come on bro. Let's debate.

[owl sees all]

22 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

While there's no doubt the Covid vaccine was a life saver for millions of adults,,,,.

Really!

 

Been watching the BBC or CNN by any chance Brewster?

[brewsterbudgen]

9 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

 

 

What jabs are good for our children Brewster? Please tell. Most of the past jabs were rolled out well after the disease had past.

 

If you become a disciple of nature - you already are part of it - you would understand that it has all the answers we seek. Consider a big strong oak tree. Wasn't born in a petri dish was it?

 

And while we are about it. Try to find one image of a virus.

 

Come on bro. Let's debate.

Polio, measles, rubella, whooping cough, diphtheria, tetanus, hepatitis B, rotavirus, haemophilus influenzae Type B (Hib).  let me know if you need more. 

[Red Phoenix]

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Polio, measles, rubella, whooping cough, diphtheria, tetanus, hepatitis B, rotavirus, haemophilus influenzae Type B (Hib).  let me know if you need more. 

You would be surprised - and shocked - when you did some actual research in the history of all these 'successful' vaccines.  Vaccines are the poisoned golden eggs of the Big Pharma Goose. that are making billions on that business line, and with indeminity when things go awry! 

In the last 2 years Big Pharma spend 2 billion (yes billion) US $ to promote the so-called need for their covid-vaccines, and the medical establishment, universities, media and politicians have a vested interest in keeping the illusion of the need for vaccines alive...

[owl sees all]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Polio, measles, rubella, whooping cough, diphtheria, tetanus, hepatitis B, rotavirus, haemophilus influenzae Type B (Hib).  let me know if you need more. 

Wow! You certainly came at me strong there Brewster. Don't want to write a long essay, so let's just take the first two for starters. 

 

Polio is a neuro-muscular complaint caused by toxicity. It's thought that the main culprit was DDT. But there are others; even now. Polio is not transmissible.

 

Measles is the symptoms of the body doing a serious detox. Poor food, unclean water and an unhealthy environment generally are the causes.

 

Nature has the answers we seek, We must not take it for granted. After all. we need it to sustain life on Earth.

Edited October 15 by owl sees all

[brewsterbudgen]

14 hours ago, owl sees all said:

Wow! You certainly came at me strong there Brewster. Don't want to write a long essay, so let's just take the first two for starters. 

 

Polio is a neuro-muscular complaint caused by toxicity. It's thought that the main culprit was DDT. But there are others; even now. Polio is not transmissible.

 

Measles is the symptoms of the body doing a serious detox. Poor food, unclean water and an unhealthy environment generally are the causes.

 

Nature has the answers we seek, We must not take it for granted. After all. we need it to sustain life on Earth.

 

Dangerous anti-vax conspiracy nonsense results in children dying.  In Thailand, as in most civilised countries, childhood vaccinations are mandatory.  

[Red Phoenix]

32 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

...  In Thailand, as in most civilised countries, childhood vaccinations are mandatory.  

 

Sadly, you are right that in many countries childhood vaccinations are mandatory. 

But such a mandate does NOT imply that these shots are safe, effective or even necessary. 

Do some research outside the Big Pharma captured channels and find out the shocking truth about the risk/benefit of these shots (for many of them studies have confirmed that it is all risk of harm and zero benefit). 

With the Covid-19 jabs (they are not vaccines but gene 'therapy') greedy Big Pharma has overplayed its hand with many people having experienced adverse effects to their own health or of their loved ones.  Unfortunately it will need many million more harms and deaths before the truth - which was already obvious from the very start of the roll-out of the covid-19 jabs - cannot be hidden anymore and the dam of lies will breach...

[brewsterbudgen]

17 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Sadly, you are right that in many countries childhood vaccinations are mandatory. 

But such a mandate does NOT imply that these shots are safe, effective or even necessary. 

Do some research outside the Big Pharma captured channels and find out the shocking truth about the risk/benefit of these shots (for many of them studies have confirmed that it is all risk of harm and zero benefit). 

With the Covid-19 jabs (they are not vaccines but gene 'therapy') greedy Big Pharma has overplayed its hand with many people having experienced adverse effects to their own health or of their loved ones.  Unfortunately it will need many million more harms and deaths before the truth - which was already obvious from the very start of the roll-out of the covid-19 jabs - cannot be hidden anymore and the dam of lies will breach...

 

I have no desire to go down a rabbit warren of conspiracy theories, thanks.  Dangerous nonsense like this has resulted in the outbreak of measles, with children dying, and other childhood diseases that had been almost eliminated.

[johng]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Dangerous nonsense like this has resulted in the outbreak of measles,

How does your reading of "conspiracy theory's" translate into children getting measles....unless you are afraid that after reading all sides/arguments you would change your mind about vaccination  and thus you yourself might become a "dangerous antivaxer"

 

As the report in this thread exposes   vaxed or unvaxed no children in the study group died from COVID  and only those vaccinated suffered from heart problems,   its looking bad for the vaccinated group IMHO

[brewsterbudgen]

15 minutes ago, johng said:

How does your reading of "conspiracy theory's" translate into children getting measles....unless you are afraid that after reading all sides/arguments you would change your mind about vaccination  and thus you yourself might become a "dangerous antivaxer"

 

As the report in this thread exposes   vaxed or unvaxed no children in the study group died from COVID  and only those vaccinated suffered from heart problems,   its looking bad for the vaccinated group IMHO

 

Since the drop in measles vaccinations in recent years, measles outbreaks have surged in various regions globally. In 2022, the number of countries experiencing significant measles outbreaks rose by 68%, affecting 37 countries, with the largest outbreaks in Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean regions.  Globally, over 57 million deaths have been prevented since 2000 due to measles vaccinations.
 

[johng]

7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Globally, over 57 million deaths have been prevented since 2000 due to measles vaccinations.

 

They got the time machine out again to produce that "fact"  

or is it at best a "guestimate" ?

[Danderman123]

On 10/14/2024 at 6:30 PM, Red Phoenix said:

This major study involves 1.7 million children but is not peer-reviewed yet, although it already dates from May 2024. 

But it features an interesting fact. 

The study found that heart damage only appeared in children who had received Covid mRNA vaccines.

Not a single unvaccinated child in the group suffered from heart-related problems.

In addition, the researchers note zero children from the entire group, vaccinated or unvaccinated, died from COVID-19.

 

> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.05.20.24306810v1.full.pdf

As expected, all critical care admissions were from the unvaccinated group.

[rattlesnake]

On 10/15/2024 at 4:33 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Why does Admin allow nonsense and dangerous posts from Anti-vax nutters?

 

Maybe because the Overton window is moving?

[johng]

17 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

the unvaccinated group.

How many died ?

[dinsdale]

5 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Since the drop in measles vaccinations in recent years, measles outbreaks have surged in various regions globally. In 2022, the number of countries experiencing significant measles outbreaks rose by 68%, affecting 37 countries, with the largest outbreaks in Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean regions.  Globally, over 57 million deaths have been prevented since 2000 due to measles vaccinations.
 

Yes. Children should be vaccinated against measles/mumps/rubella. If you are vaccinated you won't get measles/mumps/rubella. If you are vaccinated against covid you can still get covid. The former is old vaccination method the latter new mRNA vaccination method. As a guess I reckon serious adverse reactions to one will be much, much, much less than the other.