A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin / Orban / Kim Jong Un

[dinsdale]

On 10/14/2024 at 7:26 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

While there's no doubt the Covid vaccine was a life saver for millions of adults, I thought it had always been understood that children were extremely unlikely to suffer any serious consequences from Covid, so why would they be vaccinated?

This is something that keeps being pushed and I can't quite work out. The vaccines saved millions. How do they know? How do they know it was the vaccine?  Where does the number come from? What about those who died and were vaccinated? Didn't save them. Even the numbers that died can be disputed. Died with or died from.

[johng]

On 10/15/2024 at 5:49 PM, owl sees all said:

Most of the past jabs were rolled out well after the disease had past.

It's good that you point this out It's quite a revelation looking at the figures

certainly caused me to re evaluate.

 

perhaps some graphs would help if you have some handy..I don't.

[johng]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

How do they know?

They are purely estimates and guestimates as I keep saying  there is no way to know unless they use a time machine  to go back and "not vaccinate"  and then somehow compare the 2 timelines  (3 body problem)

[dinsdale]

26 minutes ago, johng said:

They are purely estimates and guestimates as I keep saying  there is no way to know unless they use a time machine  to go back and "not vaccinate"  and then somehow compare the 2 timelines  (3 body problem)

Indeed but sadly there are many who lack the ability to question what they are told. If the vaccine saved millions then the vaccine saved millions. No need to question our masters. 

1984: Eric Arthur Blair aka George Orwell

The Party controls every source of information, managing and rewriting the content of all newspapers and histories for its own ends.

The party now being the WHO, big pharma, the CDC and governments and the newspapers being the legacy media.

[owl sees all]

On 10/16/2024 at 6:22 PM, johng said:

It's good that you point this out It's quite a revelation looking at the figures

certainly caused me to re evaluate.

 

perhaps some graphs would help if you have some handy..I don't.

Really interesting book on world health, the 'advancement' of organised, funded medicine, diseases and vaccinations.

Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History.

Paperback – July 27, 2013

by

Suzanyne Humphries MD (Author),  Roman Bystrianyk (Author)

 

''Not too long ago, lethal infections were feared in the Western world. Since that time, many countries have undergone a transformation from disease cesspools to much safer, healthier habitats. Starting in the mid-1800s, there was a steady drop in deaths from all infectious diseases, decreasing to relatively minor levels by the early 1900s.

 

The history of that transformation involves famine, poverty, filth, lost cures, eugenicist doctrine, individual freedoms versus state might, protests and arrests over vaccine refusal, and much more.

 

Today, we are told that medical interventions increased our lifespan and single-handedly prevented masses of deaths. Is this really true though?''

 

Using myth-shattering graphs, this book shows that vaccines, antibiotics, and other medical interventions, were/are not responsible for the increase in lifespan, and the decline in mortality from infectious diseases. Dissolving Illusions details facts and figures from long-overlooked medical journals, books, newspapers, and other sources.

 

If the medical profession could systematically misinterpret and ignore key historical information, the question must be asked, “What else is ignored and misinterpreted today?”