Deadlocked Between Trump and Harris in NBC News Poll as Election Approaches

[Eric Loh]

47 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Trump has a great team and great plans for America. Kamala has a crap team and NO PLANS except the ones she copy/pasted from Biden and the "i'm going to fix the price gouging to end inflation". she's plain dumb, dumb as a 2x4 and her reign as VP has done and accomplished what exactly for America even remotely positive in nature besides the attached list of impressive failures:

 

 

 

 
- He has concept not plans.

- Drill baby drill is a slogan.

- immigration is his fear mongering gimmick. 

- No war is a myth. 
- Afghanistan withdrawal was his responsibility which he didn’t execute. 
- Crime is down.

- He is a convicted felon and due process was provided for him

- Trump was beaten fairly in the 2020 election by Biden

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

On 10/16/2024 at 6:03 AM, earlinclaifornia said:

Increasing her lead

You believed that Clinton was 20+ points ahead too Earl??  

That and this is all lies and distortions designed to make conservatives think there is no point voting and given liberals hope.

Same things as in 2016 and it will be the same result as 2016 - Kamala is going down (again).

[TroubleandGrumpy]

42 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 
- He has concept not plans.

- Drill baby drill is a slogan.

- immigration is his fear mongering gimmick. 

- No war is a myth. 
- Afghanistan withdrawal was his responsibility which he didn’t execute. 
- Crime is down.

- He is a convicted felon and due process was provided for him

- Trump was beaten fairly in the 2020 election by Biden

 

Never seen so much delusional lefty rubbish in one post.

Why do they believe all that propaganda and hate Trump with a delusional passion.

We dont hate Harris - we just call out her idiocy and criticise her policies (what little there are, except more of the same). 

 

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Never seen so much delusional lefty rubbish in one post.

Why do they believe all that propaganda and hate Trump with a delusional passion.

We dont hate Harris - we just call out her idiocy and criticise her policies (what little there are, except more of the same). 

 

Which of the list do you think is rubbish?

 

Is it possible you support Trump because you suffer from low information syndrome?

[Danderman123]

Donald Trump’s Racist NYC Rally Was Vile. It Was Also Political Suicide

 

I haven't seen such a racist event in NYC since 1939.

 

 

[Danderman123]

The photo of the rally shows a portrait of George Washington, but Trump wouldn't use an image of anyone but himself.

 

The Cult of Trump requires forgetting any leader but the Supreme Leader.

[illisdean]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I haven't seen such a racist event in NYC since 1939.

You referring to this event?

 

 

[illisdean]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

do you support the Minnesota law, as described above?

Some might support, particularly morons who may in fact believe it may help kids learn to read. Who KNEW?

 

LOL

 

 

[illisdean]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Crime is down.

 

Stop lying. Or smarten up, or both.

 

 

Crime increased under Biden

[illisdean]

This gal is sure stoked about Kamal's stupidity. 

"Trump is the only one can save America"

She knows!

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Most Trump supporters don’t love Trump, but they don’t believe that he’s the idiot racist, fascist, misogynist Hitler that  the legacy media says he is. Even the non-morons on the left (though they would never admit it) can see how ridiculously biased and dishonest their media are and how they lie about Trump.

 

Most everyone now knows the press are liars and are in the bag for Harris, and that they will say anything to help her. Voting against Harris has nothing to do with the cackle, or the Willie Brown issue, or her inability to speak clearly, or that she can’t answer a question, or even her misogynistic position on trans issues. It’s that her whole platform is identical to Biden’s in 2000, which is just to claim that Trump’s a fascist, Hitler, dictator and criminal, and for a lot of people, “I’m not Trump” is just not that compelling, 

 

People support Trump because they know Harris is a liar and a cheater, and that she has a history or supporting open borders, mass illegal immigration, DEI, higher taxes, more giveaways, men in girls’ showers, path to citizenship, free health care and tuition for illegals, housing subsidies for illegals, men in women’s sports and prisons, defunding the police, supporting rioters, and free transition surgery for prison inmates.

 

I am against all those things, as is (I believe) Trump. That is why I support Trump. It has nothing to do with me being afraid of a “strong black woman”, If Condoleezza Rice were running, I would vote for her. That said, I do not think Harris is strong. I think she is weak, and I think Walz is even weaker.

 

People that don’t like those things should vote for Trump. People that like those things should vote for Harris.
 

[scottiejohn]

3 hours ago, transam said:

Take your time, you will need time to come up with a plausible excuse answer

He will need more than time to do that!

[transam]

10 minutes ago, illisdean said:

This gal is sure stoked about Kamal's stupidity. 

"Trump is the only one can save America"

She knows!

 

 

 

Save it from what, all you have is your Trumps propaganda, MAGA, mainly focused on missing cats & dogs......................🤣

[earlinclaifornia]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/iowa-results

 

Although Nevada is still bad for Harris, there is something happening in Iowa, the Dems have a lead.

 

The magic number for a win is 900,000 in Iowa, and the Dems are well on their way. Not idea if they will make it.

 

 

Nevada early is not the final representational

[Will B Good]

 

 

Where has this topic popped up from?.....last I heard Trump was ahead in every battle state and a nailed on win with money backing him just pouring into the bookies......what changed?

[Will B Good]

48 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Most Trump supporters don’t love Trump, but they don’t believe that he’s the idiot racist, fascist, misogynist Hitler that  the legacy media says he is. Even the non-morons on the left (though they would never admit it) can see how ridiculously biased and dishonest their media are and how they lie about Trump.

 

Most everyone now knows the press are liars and are in the bag for Harris, and that they will say anything to help her. Voting against Harris has nothing to do with the cackle, or the Willie Brown issue, or her inability to speak clearly, or that she can’t answer a question, or even her misogynistic position on trans issues. It’s that her whole platform is identical to Biden’s in 2000, which is just to claim that Trump’s a fascist, Hitler, dictator and criminal, and for a lot of people, “I’m not Trump” is just not that compelling, 

 

People support Trump because they know Harris is a liar and a cheater, and that she has a history or supporting open borders, mass illegal immigration, DEI, higher taxes, more giveaways, men in girls’ showers, path to citizenship, free health care and tuition for illegals, housing subsidies for illegals, men in women’s sports and prisons, defunding the police, supporting rioters, and free transition surgery for prison inmates.

 

I am against all those things, as is (I believe) Trump. That is why I support Trump. It has nothing to do with me being afraid of a “strong black woman”, If Condoleezza Rice were running, I would vote for her. That said, I do not think Harris is strong. I think she is weak, and I think Walz is even weaker.

 

People that don’t like those things should vote for Trump. People that like those things should vote for Harris.
 

 

 

Many Americans view Trump as fundamentally unfit for leadership due to his behavior, record, and divisive rhetoric, which they believe far outweighs any policy positions he claims to support. Critics argue that Trump has repeatedly disregarded democratic norms, shown contempt for constitutional processes, and fostered an atmosphere of hostility and misinformation. The accusations against him are not merely media invention; they’re supported by documented instances, such as his role in the events surrounding January 6, 2021, his multiple impeachments, and ongoing legal challenges.

 

Kamala Harris, by contrast, is seen as a steady, experienced public servant who has spent her career advocating for justice, equal rights, and practical reforms. Many Americans appreciate her stance on critical issues like affordable healthcare, police reform, and education, which are geared toward creating a fairer and more equitable society. While Trump’s supporters might characterize these policies as radical or harmful, Harris’s supporters argue that these policies are designed to build a stronger social safety net and to correct inequities that harm the country as a whole.

 

The critique of Harris as a mere “anti-Trump” candidate misses the larger platform she and the Democratic Party are offering: a commitment to governance that respects diversity, tackles climate change, enhances social and racial equity, and addresses economic inequality. Harris’s policies reflect a vision that emphasizes unity and progress, as opposed to Trump’s often inflammatory rhetoric that, to many, undermines social cohesion and marginalizes vulnerable groups.

 

Furthermore, the trustworthiness of the media is a complex issue, but the vast majority of reputable media organizations adhere to standards of journalism that include fact-checking and accountability. While bias exists in all media to some degree, dismissing the entire press as “liars” undermines the role of the fourth estate, which serves to inform the public and hold leaders accountable. Trump’s continuous attacks on the press may be viewed as a tactic to avoid scrutiny and accountability, creating a culture of mistrust that’s harmful to democracy.

 

In short, for many who oppose Trump and support Harris, this election isn’t simply a choice between two candidates; it’s a decision about the values America stands for. They see Harris as a candidate who champions inclusion, progress, and integrity—qualities they believe are essential to effective, democratic leadership.

 

This argument centers on a fundamentally different view of what constitutes effective leadership and governance and reflects the perspective that policies supporting equity, democratic norms, and trust in the press are crucial for a healthy society.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Many Americans view Trump as fundamentally unfit for leadership due to his behavior, record, and divisive rhetoric, which they believe far outweighs any policy positions he claims to support. Critics argue that Trump has repeatedly disregarded democratic norms, shown contempt for constitutional processes, and fostered an atmosphere of hostility and misinformation. The accusations against him are not merely media invention; they’re supported by documented instances, such as his role in the events surrounding January 6, 2021, his multiple impeachments, and ongoing legal challenges.

 

Kamala Harris, by contrast, is seen as a steady, experienced public servant who has spent her career advocating for justice, equal rights, and practical reforms. Many Americans appreciate her stance on critical issues like affordable healthcare, police reform, and education, which are geared toward creating a fairer and more equitable society. While Trump’s supporters might characterize these policies as radical or harmful, Harris’s supporters argue that these policies are designed to build a stronger social safety net and to correct inequities that harm the country as a whole.

 

The critique of Harris as a mere “anti-Trump” candidate misses the larger platform she and the Democratic Party are offering: a commitment to governance that respects diversity, tackles climate change, enhances social and racial equity, and addresses economic inequality. Harris’s policies reflect a vision that emphasizes unity and progress, as opposed to Trump’s often inflammatory rhetoric that, to many, undermines social cohesion and marginalizes vulnerable groups.

 

Furthermore, the trustworthiness of the media is a complex issue, but the vast majority of reputable media organizations adhere to standards of journalism that include fact-checking and accountability. While bias exists in all media to some degree, dismissing the entire press as “liars” undermines the role of the fourth estate, which serves to inform the public and hold leaders accountable. Trump’s continuous attacks on the press may be viewed as a tactic to avoid scrutiny and accountability, creating a culture of mistrust that’s harmful to democracy.

 

In short, for many who oppose Trump and support Harris, this election isn’t simply a choice between two candidates; it’s a decision about the values America stands for. They see Harris as a candidate who champions inclusion, progress, and integrity—qualities they believe are essential to effective, democratic leadership.

 

This argument centers on a fundamentally different view of what constitutes effective leadership and governance and reflects the perspective that policies supporting equity, democratic norms, and trust in the press are crucial for a healthy society.

Excellent.........

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Many Americans view Trump as fundamentally unfit for leadership due to his behavior, record, and divisive rhetoric, which they believe far outweighs any policy positions he claims to support. Critics argue that Trump has repeatedly disregarded democratic norms, shown contempt for constitutional processes, and fostered an atmosphere of hostility and misinformation. The accusations against him are not merely media invention; they’re supported by documented instances, such as his role in the events surrounding January 6, 2021, his multiple impeachments, and ongoing legal challenges.

 

Kamala Harris, by contrast, is seen as a steady, experienced public servant who has spent her career advocating for justice, equal rights, and practical reforms. Many Americans appreciate her stance on critical issues like affordable healthcare, police reform, and education, which are geared toward creating a fairer and more equitable society. While Trump’s supporters might characterize these policies as radical or harmful, Harris’s supporters argue that these policies are designed to build a stronger social safety net and to correct inequities that harm the country as a whole.

 

The critique of Harris as a mere “anti-Trump” candidate misses the larger platform she and the Democratic Party are offering: a commitment to governance that respects diversity, tackles climate change, enhances social and racial equity, and addresses economic inequality. Harris’s policies reflect a vision that emphasizes unity and progress, as opposed to Trump’s often inflammatory rhetoric that, to many, undermines social cohesion and marginalizes vulnerable groups.

 

Furthermore, the trustworthiness of the media is a complex issue, but the vast majority of reputable media organizations adhere to standards of journalism that include fact-checking and accountability. While bias exists in all media to some degree, dismissing the entire press as “liars” undermines the role of the fourth estate, which serves to inform the public and hold leaders accountable. Trump’s continuous attacks on the press may be viewed as a tactic to avoid scrutiny and accountability, creating a culture of mistrust that’s harmful to democracy.

 

In short, for many who oppose Trump and support Harris, this election isn’t simply a choice between two candidates; it’s a decision about the values America stands for. They see Harris as a candidate who champions inclusion, progress, and integrity—qualities they believe are essential to effective, democratic leadership.

 

This argument centers on a fundamentally different view of what constitutes effective leadership and governance and reflects the perspective that policies supporting equity, democratic norms, and trust in the press are crucial for a healthy society.

[Yellowtail]

The left promotes drag queen story hour in elementary schools, and men in girls' showers, but gets their panties in a bunch when Trump calls MS13 gang members vermin, or calls Harris an idiot. 

 

Of course they can call Trump stupid, Hitler, fascist, racist, rapist, insurrectionist, nothing is ever of the table for those they oppose...

[Will B Good]

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The left promotes drag queen story hour in elementary schools, and men in girls' showers, but gets their panties in a bunch when Trump calls MS13 gang members vermin, or calls Harris an idiot. 

 

Of course they can call Trump stupid, Hitler, fascist, racist, rapist, insurrectionist, nothing is ever of the table for those they oppose...

 

off

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

off

get

[Yellowtail]

 

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

get

 

Not what I was thinking.....🤭

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Nevada early is not the final representational

Let's hope that's the case. But, for now, the numbers don't look good.

 

 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

The left promotes drag queen story hour in elementary schools, and men in girls' showers, but gets their panties in a bunch when Trump calls MS13 gang members vermin, or calls Harris an idiot. 

 

Of course they can call Trump stupid, Hitler, fascist, racist, rapist, insurrectionist, nothing is ever of the table for those they oppose...

Your list is a bunch of stuff that will be forgotten by you after November 5. And it's state or county level stuff that has nothing to do with this election.

 

Conversely, the Hitler stuff and Project 2025 will be remembered for a long time, even after Trump loses.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Most Trump supporters don’t love Trump, but they don’t believe that he’s the idiot racist, fascist, misogynist Hitler that  the legacy media says he is. Even the non-morons on the left (though they would never admit it) can see how ridiculously biased and dishonest their media are and how they lie about Trump.

 

Most everyone now knows the press are liars and are in the bag for Harris, and that they will say anything to help her. Voting against Harris has nothing to do with the cackle, or the Willie Brown issue, or her inability to speak clearly, or that she can’t answer a question, or even her misogynistic position on trans issues. It’s that her whole platform is identical to Biden’s in 2000, which is just to claim that Trump’s a fascist, Hitler, dictator and criminal, and for a lot of people, “I’m not Trump” is just not that compelling, 

 

People support Trump because they know Harris is a liar and a cheater, and that she has a history or supporting open borders, mass illegal immigration, DEI, higher taxes, more giveaways, men in girls’ showers, path to citizenship, free health care and tuition for illegals, housing subsidies for illegals, men in women’s sports and prisons, defunding the police, supporting rioters, and free transition surgery for prison inmates.

 

I am against all those things, as is (I believe) Trump. That is why I support Trump. It has nothing to do with me being afraid of a “strong black woman”, If Condoleezza Rice were running, I would vote for her. That said, I do not think Harris is strong. I think she is weak, and I think Walz is even weaker.

 

People that don’t like those things should vote for Trump. People that like those things should vote for Harris.
 

The Hitler fetish by itself is disqualifying for Trump.

 

The Weave is crazy enough to disqualify Trump.

 

The billionaires tax cut that will destroy the national debt, is enough to warrant a vote for Harris.

[Yellowtail]

Oh yeah, the "Trump's billionaire tax cut" lie again.  

 

 

 

 

Despite CBO’s Predictions, Trump Tax Cuts Were a Boon for America’s Economy and Working Families | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh yeah, the "Trump's billionaire tax cut" lie again.  

 

 

 

 

Despite CBO’s Predictions, Trump Tax Cuts Were a Boon for America’s Economy and Working Families | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/10/24/americas-richest-10-percent-controls-60-percent-of-wealth/75790850007/

 

When you talk about average wealth, it's irrelevant because the billionaires have so much wealth.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Many Americans view Trump as fundamentally unfit for leadership due to his behavior, record, and divisive rhetoric, which they believe far outweighs any policy positions he claims to support. Critics argue that Trump has repeatedly disregarded democratic norms, shown contempt for constitutional processes, and fostered an atmosphere of hostility and misinformation. The accusations against him are not merely media invention; they’re supported by documented instances, such as his role in the events surrounding January 6, 2021, his multiple impeachments, and ongoing legal challenges.

 

Kamala Harris, by contrast, is seen as a steady, experienced public servant who has spent her career advocating for justice, equal rights, and practical reforms. Many Americans appreciate her stance on critical issues like affordable healthcare, police reform, and education, which are geared toward creating a fairer and more equitable society. While Trump’s supporters might characterize these policies as radical or harmful, Harris’s supporters argue that these policies are designed to build a stronger social safety net and to correct inequities that harm the country as a whole.

 

The critique of Harris as a mere “anti-Trump” candidate misses the larger platform she and the Democratic Party are offering: a commitment to governance that respects diversity, tackles climate change, enhances social and racial equity, and addresses economic inequality. Harris’s policies reflect a vision that emphasizes unity and progress, as opposed to Trump’s often inflammatory rhetoric that, to many, undermines social cohesion and marginalizes vulnerable groups.

 

Furthermore, the trustworthiness of the media is a complex issue, but the vast majority of reputable media organizations adhere to standards of journalism that include fact-checking and accountability. While bias exists in all media to some degree, dismissing the entire press as “liars” undermines the role of the fourth estate, which serves to inform the public and hold leaders accountable. Trump’s continuous attacks on the press may be viewed as a tactic to avoid scrutiny and accountability, creating a culture of mistrust that’s harmful to democracy.

 

In short, for many who oppose Trump and support Harris, this election isn’t simply a choice between two candidates; it’s a decision about the values America stands for. They see Harris as a candidate who champions inclusion, progress, and integrity—qualities they believe are essential to effective, democratic leadership.

 

This argument centers on a fundamentally different view of what constitutes effective leadership and governance and reflects the perspective that policies supporting equity, democratic norms, and trust in the press are crucial for a healthy society.

Do you work for the DNC, or just like horrible women?

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Will B Good said:

In short, for many who oppose Trump and support Harris, this election isn’t simply a choice between two candidates; it’s a decision about the values America stands for. They see Harris as a candidate who champions inclusion, progress, and integrity—qualities they believe are essential to effective, democratic leadership.

In a country where killing foetuses is apparently desirable, rather than an exceptional and last resort, and there are multiple genders, your post seems normal, rather than crazy talk, as it would be perceived by a rational person, IMO.