The end here is that a line must be drawn, otherwise even the worst acts can and will be justified and accpected.

Can you see the problem with this sentence?

NO ONE should have the right to decide what acts are good or bad as long as the act does not interfere with other peoples' lives. What you think is ugly is beautiful in some other peoples' eyes.

If you think you can draw a line at this point, someone can draw a line at another point. And it will then just become whoever has the power will be drawing the line. Do you still not get it? Have a look at North Korea.

OH, PLEASE!!! We have gone from comparing incest to homosexuality to comparing incest to North Korea!!!! So, I guess if I don't allow Harry to marry his daughter we are all going to live under Uncle Kim's rule?

Incest does effect other 'people's' lives, it takes two to tango. Plus whatever children are produced from such a union. What about them? How well will a child feel about themselves if they knew mommy and daddy were brother and sister? What about the physical conditions that would most likely result? Is it fair for a child to grow up retarded or sickly, and then tell them that it's because of mommy and daddy' too close for comfort genes?

No, what you suggest is wrong. With all the people in the world there is no need to sleep with family members. Really!

meemiathai,

How about you do a poll on here (Bedlam, not TV!). Ask if any of us would like (if it were legal) to have sex with a member of our family. If the poll gives even one positive answer, then I'll (for one) support your right to argue this. As it is, it just looks like you're arguing for the sake of it

Your idea is contradicting what I was arguing about.

It is exactly my belief that there are so few people in this world who would want to have sex with a family member that I think I have the obligation to help these people gain their rights. (remember it takes 2 adult members of the family at the same time to feel the same to count. Just one member doesn't count. Coz I am quite sure it is not difficult to find one)

I must clarify, as usually people might foolishly think if I argue I must be one of them. I AM NOT!

By the way, may I ask, are activities between cousins, nieces and nephews considered incest? Are they acceptable then?

As it is, it just looks like you're arguing for the sake of it.

I hope you don't think I am doing it. Can you not see if there are only just 100 cases in this world of 6 billion, their feelings and welfare should be taken care of? Although you are not far from the truth, what are discussions in a forum going to influence? We should all be sleeping and forget about TV except for useful informations?

Isn't there a more worthy cause to give your time to? Really, this about people's lustful actions with genetic relations. People are dying all over the world because of what they might believe happens to them after they die and children are staving and being raped and used as workers, yet this is the cause you pick up? Come on, man!

The end here is that a line must be drawn, otherwise even the worst acts can and will be justified and accpected.

Can you see the problem with this sentence?

NO ONE should have the right to decide what acts are good or bad as long as the act does not interfere with other peoples' lives. What you think is ugly is beautiful in some other peoples' eyes.

If you think you can draw a line at this point, someone can draw a line at another point. And it will then just become whoever has the power will be drawing the line. Do you still not get it? Have a look at North Korea.

OH, PLEASE!!! We have gone from comparing incest to homosexuality to comparing incest to North Korea!!!! So, I guess if I don't allow Harry to marry his daughter we are all going to live under Uncle Kim's rule? I feel sorry that you have to twist

things like that to discuss matters. I will leave it to your conscience to judge. As a chinese speaker I have no better words to offer.

Incest does effect other 'people's' lives, it takes two to tango. Plus whatever children are produced from such a union. What about them? How well will a child feel about themselves if they knew mommy and daddy were brother and sister? What about the physical conditions that would most likely result? Is it fair for a child to grow up retarded or sickly, and then tell them that it's because of mommy and daddy' too close for comfort genes? Who the he11 was that to have allowed my poor and unintelligent father marry my mentally ill mother and brought me to this world to face all these sufferings and poverty. And don't you think I am a retarded? A lot here do! What do you think I think? Is it fair for me? I guess we should now start choosing who marries who can reproduce better?

No, what you suggest is wrong. With all the people in the world there is no need to sleep with family members. Really!

If the HK government told me that there is no need to marry a thai when there are so many women in HK.... I am going to turn into a fxxking terrorist! I swear!

meemiathai,

How about you do a poll on here (Bedlam, not TV!). Ask if any of us would like (if it were legal) to have sex with a member of our family. If the poll gives even one positive answer, then I'll (for one) support your right to argue this. As it is, it just looks like you're arguing for the sake of it

Your idea is contradicting what I was arguing about.

It is exactly my belief that there are so few people in this world who would want to have sex with a family member that I think I have the obligation to help these people gain their rights. (remember it takes 2 adult members of the family at the same time to feel the same to count. Just one member doesn't count. Coz I am quite sure it is not difficult to find one)

I must clarify, as usually people might foolishly think if I argue I must be one of them. I AM NOT!

By the way, may I ask, are activities between cousins, nieces and nephews considered incest? Are they acceptable then?

As it is, it just looks like you're arguing for the sake of it.

I hope you don't think I am doing it. Can you not see if there are only just 100 cases in this world of 6 billion, their feelings and welfare should be taken care of? Although you are not far from the truth, what are discussions in a forum going to influence? We should all be sleeping and forget about TV except for useful informations?

Isn't there a more worthy cause to give your time to? Really, this about people's lustful actions with genetic relations. People are dying all over the world because of what they might believe happens to them after they die and children are staving and being raped and used as workers, yet this is the cause you pick up? Come on, man!

Isn't there a more worthy cause to give your time to than to TV?People are dying all over the world because of what they might believe happens to them after they die and children are staving and being raped and used as workers, yet this is where you waste your time at? Come on, man!

Where are you going to start first?

meemiathai,

How about you do a poll on here (Bedlam, not TV!). Ask if any of us would like (if it were legal) to have sex with a member of our family.

Don't bother. I have wanted to give it to my first cousin since we were little children.

She is HOT!

The end here is that a line must be drawn, otherwise even the worst acts can and will be justified and accpected.

Can you see the problem with this sentence?

NO ONE should have the right to decide what acts are good or bad as long as the act does not interfere with other peoples' lives. What you think is ugly is beautiful in some other peoples' eyes.

If you think you can draw a line at this point, someone can draw a line at another point. And it will then just become whoever has the power will be drawing the line. Do you still not get it? Have a look at North Korea.

OH, PLEASE!!! We have gone from comparing incest to homosexuality to comparing incest to North Korea!!!! So, I guess if I don't allow Harry to marry his daughter we are all going to live under Uncle Kim's rule? I feel sorry that you have to twist

things like that to discuss matters. I will leave it to your conscience to judge. As a chinese speaker I have no better words to offer.

Incest does effect other 'people's' lives, it takes two to tango. Plus whatever children are produced from such a union. What about them? How well will a child feel about themselves if they knew mommy and daddy were brother and sister? What about the physical conditions that would most likely result? Is it fair for a child to grow up retarded or sickly, and then tell them that it's because of mommy and daddy' too close for comfort genes? Who the he11 was that to have allowed my poor and unintelligent father marry my mentally ill mother and brought me to this world to face all these sufferings and poverty. And don't you think I am a retarded? A lot here do! What do you think I think? Is it fair for me? I guess we should now start choosing who marries who can reproduce better?

No, what you suggest is wrong. With all the people in the world there is no need to sleep with family members. Really!

If the HK government told me that there is no need to marry a thai when there are so many women in HK.... I am going to turn into a fxxking terrorist! I swear!

I really do understand where you are coming from, but incest is just so against.....well, everything. There is something wrong about it. Now, if two adults who are related hook up I am not going to bust down their front door and haul them off to jail, but I am not sure I would socialize with them. I would leave them to the lives regardless how felt, but they wouldn't be invitied in to mine.

I also do not think you are retarded, I never got that idea in my head. I might consider you odd, but I think everyone here is odd, myself included. That is one thing I have noticed about TV poster, the ones that stay anyway, that we are all a little off and know it (well most do) which is why we socialized here anyway.

So, we will just agree to disagree. I don't believe people should be told who to marry but I really don't think their choices shoud include close family, or even distant. Cheers!

meemiathai,

How about you do a poll on here (Bedlam, not TV!). Ask if any of us would like (if it were legal) to have sex with a member of our family. If the poll gives even one positive answer, then I'll (for one) support your right to argue this. As it is, it just looks like you're arguing for the sake of it

Your idea is contradicting what I was arguing about.

It is exactly my belief that there are so few people in this world who would want to have sex with a family member that I think I have the obligation to help these people gain their rights. (remember it takes 2 adult members of the family at the same time to feel the same to count. Just one member doesn't count. Coz I am quite sure it is not difficult to find one)

I must clarify, as usually people might foolishly think if I argue I must be one of them. I AM NOT!

By the way, may I ask, are activities between cousins, nieces and nephews considered incest? Are they acceptable then?

As it is, it just looks like you're arguing for the sake of it.

I hope you don't think I am doing it. Can you not see if there are only just 100 cases in this world of 6 billion, their feelings and welfare should be taken care of? Although you are not far from the truth, what are discussions in a forum going to influence? We should all be sleeping and forget about TV except for useful informations?

Isn't there a more worthy cause to give your time to? Really, this about people's lustful actions with genetic relations. People are dying all over the world because of what they might believe happens to them after they die and children are staving and being raped and used as workers, yet this is the cause you pick up? Come on, man!

Isn't there a more worthy cause to give your time to than to TV?People are dying all over the world because of what they might believe happens to them after they die and children are staving and being raped and used as workers, yet this is where you waste your time at? Come on, man!

Where are you going to start first?

I am not saying I have cause, I am saying if you are going to pick one there are better ones than The Sister/Brother Love Foundation to support. I am husband, father, full time emplyee and college student, I don't have time for other poeple's problems, but the occaional post on TV, sure that doesn't take so much time.

meemiathai,

How about you do a poll on here (Bedlam, not TV!). Ask if any of us would like (if it were legal) to have sex with a member of our family.

Don't bother. I have wanted to give it to my first cousin since we were little children.

She is HOT!

I knew you would find this and have something to say. Is there anyone/thing you won't shag UG?

I only shag females, but not many restrictions beyond that.

I only shag females, but not many restrictions beyond that.

Working night shift at a nursing home wouldnt be the right career choice for you then

I only shag females, but not many restrictions beyond that.

Working night shift at a nursing home wouldnt be the right career choice for you then

I thought that was his job, he's the night entertainment.

I only shag females, but not many restrictions beyond that.

Working night shift at a nursing home wouldnt be the right career choice for you then

I thought that was his job, he's the night entertainment.

In the news not too long ago some sicko male nurse was busted for shagging a 95yo woman!

I only shag females, but not many restrictions beyond that.

Working night shift at a nursing home wouldnt be the right career choice for you then

I thought that was his job, he's the night entertainment.

In the news not too long ago some sicko male nurse was busted for shagging a 95yo woman!

UG!

No teeth and lots of experience.

What more could you ask for?

I see him now... skulking around until the dead of night before pouncing on top of the helpless female geriatrics, then running off with their morphine drip.

aint that right UG

They have to consent first. I like to trade them a little action for Sister Morphine.

Now, if two adults who are related hook up I am not going to bust down their front door and haul them off to jail,

So, we will just agree to disagree. I don't believe people should be told who to marry but I really don't think their choices shoud include close family, or even distant. Cheers!

We don't have to agree to disagree. Coz I have found out that you have agreed with me already.

And yes I do see that you know where I am coming from.

I only shag females, but not many restrictions beyond that.

Working night shift at a nursing home wouldnt be the right career choice for you then

I thought that was his job, he's the night entertainment.

In the news not too long ago some sicko male nurse was busted for shagging a 95yo woman!

You would've caught Bill Clinton doing that if that was his only choice during his time.

You would've caught Bill Clinton doing that if that was his only choice during his time.

At least, I am in good company!

Now, if two adults who are related hook up I am not going to bust down their front door and haul them off to jail,

So, we will just agree to disagree. I don't believe people should be told who to marry but I really don't think their choices shoud include close family, or even distant. Cheers!

We don't have to agree to disagree. Coz I have found out that you have agreed with me already.

And yes I do see that you know where I am coming from.

I just find it wrong and disgusting.

Now, if two adults who are related hook up I am not going to bust down their front door and haul them off to jail,

So, we will just agree to disagree. I don't believe people should be told who to marry but I really don't think their choices shoud include close family, or even distant. Cheers!

We don't have to agree to disagree. Coz I have found out that you have agreed with me already.

And yes I do see that you know where I am coming from.

I just find it wrong and disgusting.

Well, you shouldn't have done it then !

joking, joking

Now, if two adults who are related hook up I am not going to bust down their front door and haul them off to jail,

So, we will just agree to disagree. I don't believe people should be told who to marry but I really don't think their choices shoud include close family, or even distant. Cheers!

We don't have to agree to disagree. Coz I have found out that you have agreed with me already.

And yes I do see that you know where I am coming from.

I just find it wrong and disgusting.

Well, you shouldn't have done it then !

joking, joking

Maybe if I had a hot cousin like UG I would feel different. Hey, UG any pics?

In the news not too long ago some sicko male nurse was busted for shagging a 95yo woman!

Was it consensual? I think by 95 you should be able to get it on with whomever you bloody well please.

Was it consensual?

Nah, she said he raped her. But apparently it occurred over a period of time and she only cried rape after they got busted so go figure.

I think by 95 you should be able to get it on with whomever you bloody well please.

Lets say it was consensual. What sort of an example would that be setting to her children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren etc ? not a good one !

UG,

It's not incest between first cousins. It's legal. My maternal grandparents were/are first cousins - although I've always wondered if that's how my Mum became diabetic at 7...

Grover, I wouldn't say that the woman was consenting until they were caught. Firstly, if she's in a nursing home there's the position of power he has over her. Secondly, who's going to believe her? They'd think she was senile or something. Thirdly, you don't know what meds she was on; she could have thought she was dreaming it/hallucinating it until they were actually caught. Of course, that's just supposition. I have no idea what really happened, but I can see very good reasons why she wouldn't have reported it before, even if it was rape.

Lets say it was consensual. What sort of an example would that be setting to her children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren etc ? not a good one !

Well I would hope she had the good manners not to brag about it at Christmas dinner with the grandkids.

Lets say it was consensual. What sort of an example would that be setting to her children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren etc ? not a good one !

Well I would hope she had the good manners not to brag about it at Christmas dinner with the grandkids.

No need for that, it was splashed all over the evening news !

NR, yes, I agree with all those possibilities, including rape.

And I've no doubt the sicko was taking advantage of a very vulnerable person.

It's not incest between first cousins. It's legal. My maternal grandparents were/are first cousins

The US appears to be unique in the legalities of marriage of cousins but is rethinking its stance on it. Most reasoning based on religious sentiments.

"Prohibitions on cousin marriage are unique to the United States. Most other countries permit first-cousin marriages without restriction, and the rate of cousin marriages in some countries is as high as 60 percent of all marriages. But that has always been the case, and being unique has rarely motivated Americans to change their ways."

Source: Archives CNN

And the states that allow/disallow it > Cousin Couples

Good. At last some posts that are slightly more interesting than 'Days of Your Boring Lives'. Keep those witticisms coming, folks!

(Removes tongue from cheek)

Ping - PRN

It's not incest between first cousins. It's legal. My maternal grandparents were/are first cousins

The US appears to be unique in the legalities of marriage of cousins but is rethinking its stance on it. Most reasoning based on religious sentiments.

"Prohibitions on cousin marriage are unique to the United States. Most other countries permit first-cousin marriages without restriction, and the rate of cousin marriages in some countries is as high as 60 percent of all marriages. But that has always been the case, and being unique has rarely motivated Americans to change their ways."

Source: Archives CNN

And the states that allow/disallow it > Cousin Couples

Well, I didn't know that it was illegal in the US. Wow, in 24hrs I'm learning loads of new facts about incest from this thread.

Wonder if I'll ever be able to use them in 'Trivial Pursuits'? Maybe the 'Baby Boomer' edition??

It's not incest between first cousins. It's legal. My maternal grandparents were/are first cousins

The US appears to be unique in the legalities of marriage of cousins but is rethinking its stance on it. Most reasoning based on religious sentiments.

"Prohibitions on cousin marriage are unique to the United States. Most other countries permit first-cousin marriages without restriction, and the rate of cousin marriages in some countries is as high as 60 percent of all marriages. But that has always been the case, and being unique has rarely motivated Americans to change their ways."

Source: Archives CNN

And the states that allow/disallow it > Cousin Couples

Well, I didn't know that it was illegal in the US. Wow, in 24hrs I'm learning loads of new facts about incest from this thread.

Wonder if I'll ever be able to use them in 'Trivial Pursuits'? Maybe the 'Baby Boomer' edition??

And you are not going to thank me for that?