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[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

No. I think Americans underestimate how much wealth is out there and tax can increase a bit without much affect for the very rich or acting as a disincentive to invest in the economy - but the voters can decide.  

Saying proposed tax increases is a slippery slope to further increases is just words - unless you can show a pattern of such broken promises on tax increases by the left - the only one I remember on tax was the famous broken promise by Bush senior.  

 Can you point to this Kamala policy about men in girls showers? The current policies are not soft on crime or promote mass immigration but up to you if you believe that.

 

 

 

Yes, there is wealth out there. But a wealth tax is a killer for the economy.  As for making the rich pay "their fair share"... well, the top 1% of income earners already pay 45% of federal income taxes. The top 50% paid 97%.  So there isn't much left to squeeze out of people.  A better idea would be to decrease government spending. At the moment, the federal government spends nearly 40% more than it brings in. THIS is the problem.  They are mortgaging the future of their children and grandchildren to pay for today's excesses. 

[morrobay]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

So you say,

but NAZI is an abbreviation of National Socialist Party, which was a party funded by Union members. So it makes me a little confused, not to mention many of the Socialist countries seem to be ruled by Dictators.

Don't confuse Socialism (far left) with National Socialism (far right)

[morrobay]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/wisconsin-results

 

Wisconsin early voting is slipping away from Trump.

 

If the current trend continues, Trump is toast.

Trump can lose Michigan and Wisconsin. But with wins in Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania gives him 270

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

This post is a perfect example of how the left relies on lies and disinformation to gain power. 

 

Leftists claim they do not support genital mutilation of children, yet they never come out publicly and protest it, and they vote for the people that do support it,

 

Leftists claim they do not support segregation, yet when university dorms are segregated, and kids in primary school classrooms are segregated, they never come out publicly and protest it, and they vote for the people that do support it.

 

Leftists claim they do not support antisemitism, yet when it is on display in protests, they never come out publicly and protest them, and they vote for the people that do support them. 

 

Leftists claim they do not support racial preferences (DEI), yet when appointments are made based on race, they never come out publicly and protest them, and they vote for the people that do support them.

 

Finally, because leftists are not able to win in the arena of ideas, they must demonize their opponents, and because they believe their position to be morally superior to all others, they believe any means necessary is justified. 

 

The disinformed author of this post may not even know he is propagating lies, because truth means nothing to the left. The end justifies the means. 

Superb analysis

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Countries with socialist economic systems could have a dictatorship as a government, yes. But they could also have a republic as a government. The same goes for countries with capitalistic economies. 

What is this "could" bullpucky? Could? Like its theoretical? Every Socialist country is and alway has been an authoritarian dictatorship. You cant have socialism without it.

[Talon]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

This post is a perfect example of how the left relies on lies and disinformation to gain power. 

 

Leftists claim they do not support genital mutilation of children, yet they never come out publicly and protest it, and they vote for the people that do support it,

 

Leftists claim they do not support segregation, yet when university dorms are segregated, and kids in primary school classrooms are segregated, they never come out publicly and protest it, and they vote for the people that do support it.

 

Leftists claim they do not support antisemitism, yet when it is on display in protests, they never come out publicly and protest them, and they vote for the people that do support them. 

 

Leftists claim they do not support racial preferences (DEI), yet when appointments are made based on race, they never come out publicly and protest them, and they vote for the people that do support them.

 

Finally, because leftists are not able to win in the arena of ideas, they must demonize their opponents, and because they believe their position to be morally superior to all others, they believe any means necessary is justified. 

 

The disinformed author of this post may not even know he is propagating lies, because truth means nothing to the left. The end justifies the means. 

 

Yes. Watch what Leftists do and DON'T do. What they say is meaningless.

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

My knowledge of history may be deficient, but not my knowledge of English.

I am "another Leftist." I do not support terror or hate Jews or Arabs. Therefore, I am not anti-Semitic.

Here is a good description of the differences between left-wing and right-wing:


Left-Wing vs Right-Wing (10 Key Ideological Differences) (2024)

I dont deal with high school memes, I deal with books and scholars

[Talon]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

What is this "could" bullpucky? Could? Like its theoretical? Every Socialist country is and alway has been an authoritarian dictatorship. You cant have socialism without it.

 

Correct. Socialism removes free enterprise and focuses on the collective, which means that individual liberty is out the window. Pure democracy "mob rule" replaces the rule of law of the Republic.

[Yagoda]

37 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Don't confuse Socialism (far left) with National Socialism (far right)

He is right and you are wrong

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

Yes. Watch what Leftists do and DON'T do. What they say is meaningless.

Oh...............

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Talon said:

 

Correct. Socialism removes free enterprise and focuses on the collective, which means that individual liberty is out the window. Pure democracy "mob rule" replaces the rule of law of the Republic.

Socialism ignores the nature of humanity. Thats why it always ends up in murder.

[Talon]

38 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Don't confuse Socialism (far left) with National Socialism (far right)

 

Nuanced differences don't remove the fact that they are BOTH immoral, authoritarian, oppressive and totalitarian. All forms of government of that ilk are Left.

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

Nuanced differences don't remove the fact that they are BOTH immoral, authoritarian, oppressive and totalitarian. All forms of government of that ilk are Left.

In collectivist ideologies like the National Socialist German Workers Party, the members of the collective are "race" determined. The excluded races are the enemy and must be extirpated.

 

In collectivist ideologies like Communism/Leninism/Socialism the members of the collective are class determined. The exploiting classes are the enemy and must be extirpated.

 

Off course, in the USA, the enemy is anyone who supports Trump. We are scumbag racist white supremacist nazi deluded cultists.

 

Those who forget history will have to repeat it, right?

[morrobay]

28 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

Nuanced differences don't remove the fact that they are BOTH immoral, authoritarian, oppressive and totalitarian. All forms of government of that ilk are Left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

[WDSmart]

39 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What is this "could" bullpucky? Could? Like its theoretical? Every Socialist country is and alway has been an authoritarian dictatorship. You cant have socialism without it.

"Could" means "that's a possibility, one of many." Socialism is an economic system and can exist under almost any form of government. That includes authoritarianism and democracy. In fact, a socialist democratic republic is exactly what I hope the USA, in fact, the world, will be someday.

Edited 2 hours ago by WDSmart

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, morrobay said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Wikpedia LOL. This isnt high school

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

"Could" means "that's a possibility, one of many." Socialism is an economic system and can exist under almost any form of government. That includes authoritarianism and democracy. In fact, a socialist democracy is exactly what I hope the USA, in fact, the world, will be someday.

Guaranteed you would work in a Gulag. 

[WDSmart]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Guaranteed you would work in a Gulag. 

No, I would work where I wanted and thought I could contribute the most value to society. In return, society would provide for my needs as best it could. That's socialism. 

Edited 2 hours ago by WDSmart

[Talon]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, I would work where I wanted and could contribute the most value to society. In return, society would provide for my needs as best it could. That's socialism. 

 

What you believe is best for you in any socialist regime, no matter what extra tag you place on it, will be overruled the the government. The government will have you do what's best for the collective.

[Talon]

14 minutes ago, morrobay said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

 

 

Far right is more freedom and less government leaning toward anarchy.

Far left is less freedom and more government control leaning toward total government control.

 

 

 

[WDSmart]

10 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

What you believe is best for you in any socialist regime, no matter what extra tag you place on it, will be overruled the the government. The government will have you do what's best for the collective.

The government, whatever kind it is, could suggest I work somewhere on something, but the final choice of where I work and what I do would be mine. 

[WDSmart]

11 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

 

Far right is more freedom and less government leaning toward anarchy.

Far left is less freedom and more government control leaning toward total government control.

 

 

 

I disagree with this chart. I think the arrows should be labeled More Social Awareness and More Individual Obsession.

I agree with the Left Wing and Right Wing descriptions, but not the Far and Extreme Left and Right descriptions.

[Talon]

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I disagree with this chart. I think the arrows should be labeled More Social Awareness and More Individual Obsession.

I agree with the Left Wing and Right Wing descriptions, but not the Far and Extreme Left and Right descriptions.

 

A continuum moves from one extreme to the other. The continuum I posted moves from total government control to no government. 

 

You can disagree with it, but it's factual. Your opinion would have total government control on opposite ends of the continuum, which wouldn't make sense.

 

Any socialism with another name attached is still socialism, still immoral, still oppressive, still authoritarian. It leans toward total government control and less freedom. You can always make your own continuum and show me where no government (anarchy) would fall if different types of socialism are on your extreme left and right.

[morrobay]

44 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Wikpedia LOL. This isnt high school

Could have fooled me.

[WDSmart]

4 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

A continuum moves from one extreme to the other. The continuum I posted moves from total government control to no government. 

 

You can disagree with it, but it's factual. Your opinion would have total government control on opposite ends of the continuum, which wouldn't make sense.

 

Any socialism with another name attached is still socialism, still immoral, still oppressive, still authoritarian. It leans toward total government control and less freedom. You can always make your own continuum and show me where no government (anarchy) would fall if different types of socialism are on your extreme left and right.

What you've posted is just someone's opinion. I have my own opinion, and I disagree with that one.

I've posed an image describing what I agree with when I use the terms Left and Right, Liberal and Conservative. I won't bother posting it again, but that's what I believe.

Socialism and capitalism are economic systems. Authoritarianism and libertarianism are governmental systems. You can mix and match them, as well as other economic and governmental systems, any way you want. 

[morrobay]

18 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I disagree with this chart. I think the arrows should be labeled More Social Awareness and More Individual Obsession.

I agree with the Left Wing and Right Wing descriptions, but not the Far and Extreme Left and Right descriptions.

Very bogus chart even a high schooler would know that Fascism is extreme Right. In fact isn't there supposed to be a link included?

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, watthong said:

men in girls’ showers. men in women’s sports and prisons. free transition surgery for prison inmates.

 

fascists are camela Harris. Fascism is socialism.  one fascist policy . more fascist policies.

 

killing babies.  no plan but let's kill babies. Rip them fetuses out of the womb. it's not an abortion it's not infanticide. The last politicians to rename murder were the national socialists. their final solution.

 

genital mutilation of children. segregation, racial preferences, anti americanism and anti semitism.

 

babykilling. genital mutilation.

 

murderous ideology. folks likes you leads to ditches full of bodies.

 

a rifle and push. waiting for their bullets. you will shoot. either brainwashed. history of murder.

 

Hitler was a Socialist. realm of murder and Netanyahu. You must be an anti semite, socialists usually are.

 

Socialism mandates baby killing. Onward to the Socialist baby killing future.

 

terrorist supporting r Jew hater. his own hate. dictator is right wing.

 

 

 

Don't feed the trolls.

[Danderman123]

43 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

 

Far right is more freedom and less government leaning toward anarchy.

Far left is less freedom and more government control leaning toward total government control.

 

 

 

The problem with the chart is that it ignores far right authoritarian governments like Pinochet in Chile.

[BruceWayne]

 

Not all heroes wear shirts : )

 

 

[BruceWayne]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The problem with the chart is that it ignores far right authoritarian governments like Pinochet in Chile.

 

Duh - look up political horseshoe - Far right / Fear left is meaningless once it's a dictatorship.

 

You can call it 'Far Right' if it makes YOU feel better tho x