Social Media Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 In a rare moment of bipartisan defense, New York City’s Democratic Mayor Eric Adams came to the defense of former President Donald Trump in response to accusations labeling Trump a "fascist." These claims, initiated by Trump’s former White House Chief of Staff General John Kelly and reiterated by Vice President Kamala Harris, have sparked considerable debate. Adams addressed the issue ahead of Trump’s scheduled rally at Madison Square Garden, dismissing the notion of Trump as a fascist and urging a reduction in the divisive rhetoric surrounding the former president. In a press conference, Adams clarified his stance, saying, "My answer is no, I know what Hitler has done, and I know what a fascist regime looks like.” He encouraged the public and officials alike to “dial down the temperature,” highlighting the importance of allowing Trump to communicate his message without interference. Adams’ remarks followed those of Harris, who recently echoed General Kelly's claims in a CNN town hall, affirming her belief that Trump meets the definition of a fascist. The Vice President had cited Kelly’s statement that Trump praised Adolf Hitler for “doing some good things,” referencing the former president’s alleged remarks about Hitler’s role in rebuilding Germany’s economy. General Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general and Trump’s longest-serving chief of staff, had shared these allegations in an interview with *The New York Times*. He warned that Trump’s actions, particularly his prioritization of personal loyalty over constitutional principles, were hallmarks of fascism. Trump, however, dismissed Kelly’s claims as a “made-up story.” Despite the former president’s rebuttal, these statements became a focal point of discussion, with Harris and other prominent Democrats like Hillary Clinton seizing the opportunity to express concerns about Trump’s influence on American democracy. Clinton, reflecting on Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden, suggested it was an attempt to “re-enact” the Nazi rally held in the same location in 1939. Despite these critiques, Adams voiced his “strong” opposition to any calls to cancel Trump’s event, framing it as an essential exercise of free speech. “I think it’s important that we allow individuals to exercise their right to get their message clear to New Yorkers,” he stated, supporting the principles of democratic discourse, even when the views expressed are contentious. Adams also emphasized the city’s commitment to safety, outlining the significant police and security measures put in place to ensure the event proceeds smoothly. This isn’t the first time Adams has found himself aligned with Trump on particular issues, marking an unusual convergence given his role as a Democratic mayor. Recently, Adams has faced his own legal challenges, having been indicted on federal corruption charges, which he claims are politically motivated. Like Trump, Adams has suggested that his criticism of the Biden administration may have spurred these legal actions. He has previously taken issue with President Biden’s handling of the migrant crisis, arguing that it threatens to “destroy” New York City’s resources and infrastructure. Adams’ defense of Trump highlights the nuances and challenges within contemporary American political discourse, as well as the complex interplay of legal, ideological, and institutional conflicts shaping the nation’s political landscape. In standing up for Trump’s right to gather and speak, Adams underscores the value of upholding democratic principles—even amid sharp ideological divides. Based on a report from the Daily Telegraph 2024-10-29 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 3 hours ago, Social Media said: Recently, Adams has faced his own legal challenges, having been indicted on federal corruption charges, which he claims are politically motivated. Eric pan handling for a pardon. 5 1 3 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 I recently watched the Netflix documentary about John Demjanjuk (the Treblinka guard) and it really brought home how disgusting the left are to compare Trump with Nazis, fascists etc. It is incredibly insulting to the Jewish people who actually suffered atrocities at the hands of such people. Disagree with his policies, fine. Dislike his humour, his occasional crassness and arrogance, no problem. But the hyperbole with the Nazi/Fascist dictator stuff is absolutely ridiculous and really does them no favours. Well done to Eric Adams for speaking out. It's reassuring to see there are still some grounded people on the left of American politics. 2 1 1 1 2 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 28 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I recently watched the Netflix documentary about John Demjanjuk (the Treblinka guard) and it really brought home how disgusting the left are to compare Trump with Nazis, fascists etc. It is incredibly insulting to the Jewish people who actually suffered atrocities at the hands of such people. Disagree with his policies, fine. Dislike his humour, his occasional crassness and arrogance, no problem. But the hyperbole with the Nazi/Fascist dictator stuff is absolutely ridiculous and really does them no favours. Well done to Eric Adams for speaking out. It's reassuring to see there are still some grounded people on the left of American politics. You should perhaps engage a bit more history and appraise yourself of the path to power taken by the Nazis, the early 1930s is a good place to start, you’ll find there much of the exact same rhetoric of hatred that Trump employs in his ‘rallies’. 1 4 1 1 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: You should perhaps engage a bit more history and appraise yourself of the path to power taken by the Nazis, the early 1930s is a good place to start, you’ll find there much of the exact same rhetoric of hatred that Trump employs in his ‘rallies’. I tend to see far more anti semitism and intolerance/authoritarianism from the left. Of course, in typical fashion they accuse others of being exactly what they are. 1 2 1 2 1 2
Popular Post Tug Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: You should perhaps engage a bit more history and appraise yourself of the path to power taken by the Nazis, the early 1930s is a good place to start, you’ll find there much of the exact same rhetoric of hatred that Trump employs in his ‘rallies’. Anyone with the tiniest bit of curiosity can easily find the comparison between hitlers rise/rhetoric/techniques.trump may drape himself in the flag,he’s no patriot. 3 2 1 5
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I tend to see far more anti semitism and intolerance/authoritarianism from the left. Of course, in typical fashion they accuse others of being exactly what they are. Of course you do, it’s your view and you are entitled to it, but it doesn’t make it fact. I’m pleased to see my long used ‘accusation confession’ observation has taken purchase. 1 2 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 Just now, Tug said: Anyone with the tiniest bit of curiosity can easily find the comparison between hitlers rise/rhetoric/techniques.trump may drape himself in the flag,he’s no patriot. Correct, we’re now in the full on denial of reality phase. 1 2 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: I’m pleased to see my long used ‘accusation confession’ observation has taken purchase. More copy/paste nonsense. Was that from The Guardian? 1 2 1 1
Popular Post ChicagoExpat Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 38 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I recently watched the Netflix documentary about John Demjanjuk (the Treblinka guard) and it really brought home how disgusting the left are to compare Trump with Nazis, fascists etc. It is incredibly insulting to the Jewish people who actually suffered atrocities at the hands of such people. Disagree with his policies, fine. Dislike his humour, his occasional crassness and arrogance, no problem. But the hyperbole with the Nazi/Fascist dictator stuff is absolutely ridiculous and really does them no favours. Well done to Eric Adams for speaking out. It's reassuring to see there are still some grounded people on the left of American politics. I agree -- while I'm NOT a Trump fan, we've been hearing this cheapening of the Holocaust by the Left for many years now. They should be ashamed, it's disgusting. 4 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tug said: Anyone with the tiniest bit of curiosity can easily find the comparison between hitlers rise/rhetoric/techniques.trump may drape himself in the flag,he’s no patriot. Oh look, another Hitler comparison. So thoughtful. So original. So intelligent. 😆 3 1
Popular Post Tug Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Oh look, another Hitler comparison. So thoughtful. So original. So intelligent. 😆 So deaf so blind so ignorant so sad 😞 2 1
Popular Post nauseus Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Of course you do, it’s your view and you are entitled to it, but it doesn’t make it fact. I’m pleased to see my long used ‘accusation confession’ observation has taken purchase. What are you gobbing on about now? 4 1
Popular Post nauseus Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 Just now, Tug said: So deaf so blind so ignorant so sad 😞 So stoopid. 2 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Oh look, another Hitler comparison. So thoughtful. So original. So intelligent. 😆 Here’s some more from you directly out of the mouth of Trump: ’Enemies within’ ’poisoning the blood’ ’’vermin’ 1 1 1 2
jippytum Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 You notice recently high profile individuals supporting Trump on the run in to election day. Trying to get a ride on the gravy train now Trump looks like the winner. 1 1
JonnyF Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Here’s some more from you directly out of the mouth of Trump: ’Enemies within’ ’poisoning the blood’ ’’vermin’ You forgot "We have triumphed over evil like nobody has seen before". But we'll come back to that next week. Get your hanky ready. 1
Popular Post illisdean Posted October 29, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 29, 2024 Trumps a racist...isn't he? LOL 1 2
renaissanc Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 Adams is being strategic. He knows that the Dem-Marxists want revenge on him and will jail him. In contrast, Trump may help him. He probably thinks that Trump will win next week. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 14 minutes ago, renaissanc said: Adams is being strategic. He knows that the Dem-Marxists want revenge on him and will jail him. In contrast, Trump may help him. He probably thinks that Trump will win next week. Or it’s his last hope.
thaipo7 Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 7 hours ago, Tug said: Anyone with the tiniest bit of curiosity can easily find the comparison between hitlers rise/rhetoric/techniques.trump may drape himself in the flag,he’s no patriot. If Trump is Hitler, then why would most of the troops from Normandy Beech vote for Trump if they were alive today? 1
Red Forever Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 8 hours ago, JonnyF said: I tend to see far more anti semitism and intolerance/authoritarianism from the left. Of course, in typical fashion they accuse others of being exactly what they are. Your unrelenting right wing drivel knows no depths. "accuse others of being exactly what they are"! Excuse me. I don't accuse Trump of anything. I state facts, uncomfortable though they may be to you MAGA cultists. These facts are manifest and indisputable to any sane person. I am not a proven liar. I'm not a failed businessman. I'm not a felon convicted 34 times over. I'm not an adjudicated sex offender. I'm not a racist. Now then, tell me which of the above is untrue and which definitely apply to your orange hero. You and your handful of far right chums on AN seem very nervous. Wonder why?
mushroomdave Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 I think Adams is looking for a cellmate!
RichardColeman Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 Probably revenge for Biden destroying and bankrupting his city with illegal migrants
Lacessit Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 9 hours ago, JonnyF said: Oh look, another Hitler comparison. So thoughtful. So original. So intelligent. 😆 There's another comparison which seems to go through to the wicket-keeper. Hitler was a loser too.
Lacessit Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 2 hours ago, thaipo7 said: If Trump is Hitler, then why would most of the troops from Normandy Beech vote for Trump if they were alive today? Quite remarkable, the posters on ASEAN who have the gift of clairvoyance.
Tug Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 2 hours ago, thaipo7 said: If Trump is Hitler, then why would most of the troops from Normandy Beech vote for Trump if they were alive today? Trump isn’t hitler Hitler was a combat veteran trump is a coward and a draft dodger.hitler was an evil incarnate leader trump is a follower of that philosophy.I think you are mistaken in your weird fantasy that WW2 veterans would vote for the enemy of democracy. 1
WDSmart Posted October 30, 2024 Posted October 30, 2024 Here is Wikipedia's definition of fascism. After reading it, tell me just what aspect of it does not absolutely directly apply to Trump... "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism, fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum." Fascism - Wikipedia
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