Thai Inventions.

[jaffajeffries]

For any of you that have lived or visited Issan it's hard to believe Thai's didn't invent bent nails.

[Trembly]

(A G Bell has been accused of this with the telephone

This a very common misconception about him inventing the telephone.

He actually invented two, when you think about it there is not much point in inventing one is there?

Who would you speak to?

Nikkola Tesla, invented the phone, Marconi asked for his permission to experiment with it, then claimed to have invented it. An international court later ruled that the phone was invented by Tesla.

The current King patented a specific technique to perform cloud seeding. - To make rain, and is used around the world.

Which witohout the aeroplane would be useless

The Swiss invention of Turbo-charging would be useless without the internal combustion engine. What is your point?

[saraburioz]

Wow, this is a blast from the past.

I fondly remember many of the old posters, some who are banned now and some who are sadly not with us anymore - p1p, Neeranam, Udon

I liked these posters too but never realised they weren't with us anymore - RIP.

[bkkjames]

Just a theory, maybe leave certain figures out of the debate.

Now back to topic at hand, my wife invented the art of how to get her husband to cook dinner every night_she cooked on our 2nd date. (First date we when out for dinner)

[saraburioz]

Just a theory, maybe leave certain figures out of the debate.

Now back to topic at hand, my wife invented the art of how to get her husband to cook dinner every night_she cooked on our 2nd date. (First date we when out for dinner)

What a woos. I make dinner about once every 3 years.

[bkkjames]

Just a theory, maybe leave certain figures out of the debate.

Now back to topic at hand, my wife invented the art of how to get her husband to cook dinner every night_she cooked on our 2nd date. (First date we when out for dinner)

What a woos. I make dinner about once every 3 years.

A woos? Wow them are fighting words let me say in my defense my mrs didn't marry me for money and most certainly not my looks. There was an old saying (and I am sure it still old) a way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Well, as all you wise people in tv land know, nothing is most dangerous than sticking your hand into the middle of a group of thai gals sharing food.

Moral of the story-invent something food related here and you could just find yourself being referred to a mc farang. I cook therefore she can't.

[dominique355]

Who invented the bum-spray? I think it's a great thing.

[happyrobert]

.... I coming from the UK can say that Europe is not rich in natural resources but have managed to come up with a lot of rather usual bits and bobs throughout history and without what the UK has given where would be now ...

...radio, television, telephones, computers, internet, jet engines, power stations, railways, radar to name but a few and we are only about 1/6th the size of Thailand.

Wow!

radio RUSSIA-TESLA, GERMANY- HERTZ, INDIA-BOSE, ITALY-MARCONI

television AMERICA-Philo Taylor Farnsworth (probably rolling over repeatedly in his grave)

telephones GERMANS, ITALIANS AND AMERICANS: MANZETTI, REIS, GRAY, BELL AND EDISON, ALTHOUGH BELL WAS THE ONE TO PATENT THE FIRST WORKING MODEL.

computers (FIRST ELECTRONIC) AMERICA-JOHN ECKERT & JOHN MAUCHLY WITH THEIR ENIAC MODEL

internet DARPA IN AMERICA, (SIR TIMOTHY BERNERS-LEE DID HOWEVER INVENT THE WWW, SO IT WAS USABLE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC)

jet engines OKAY, A BRIT AND A GERMAN:

Dr. Hans von Ohain and Sir Frank Whittle are both recognized as being the co-inventors of the jet engine.

von Ohain is considered the designer of the first operational turbojet engine.

Frank Whittle was the first to register a patent for the turbojet engine in 1930.

But,.Hans von Ohain's jet was the first to fly in 1939. Frank Whittle's jet first flew in in 1941.

TIE!

power stations TESLA OR EDISON, TAKE YOUR PICK (THERE'S A GREAT HISTORICAL NOVEL, THE DEVIL IN THE WHITE CITY, BY ERIC LARSON, THAT TELLS ABOUT THEIR FEUD DURING THE 1893 CHICAGO WORLD'S FAIR)

railways YUP, GEORGE STEPHENSON, BRITISH

radar 1886 HERTZ AGAIN, 1904 HUELSMEYER-GERMAN WITH PATENT, 1922 TAYLOR AND YOUNG-AMERICA , 1934 PAGE, AMERICA, 1934 TESLA WITH FRENCH PATENT,1935 SIR ROBERT WATSON WATT-SCOTTISH BUT BRITISH PATENT. 1940, AMERICAN NAVY COINED TERM: RADAR

Lots of people deserve credit for most of our great inventions. Significant inventions-unlike Facebook- require many brilliant minds and stretches of time and effort to produce. Not quite fair, then, to take credit away from all those folks--and their are many more than I mentioned--and hand it to one man.

Don't you agree?

[Moonrakers]

the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

[happyrobert]

the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

I'll go with that for mechanical, programmable, but will stick with the ENIAC as the more closely related to what we call a computer today.

Of course, we could just agree on the thousands year old Chinese computer....

[happyrobert]

the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

Okay, I feel bad about the Babbage thing. So, I did some googling for strictly British inventions and discovered that an Englishman, Peter Durand, invented the tin can in 1810, a very useful and lifesaving invention that made food safer to eat.

Sadly, it was decades later before an American, Ezra Warner, invented the can opener. By then, Durand was dead.

[Moonrakers]

the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

Okay, I feel bad about the Babbage thing. So, I did some googling for strictly British inventions and discovered that an Englishman, Peter Durand, invented the tin can in 1810, a very useful and lifesaving invention that made food safer to eat.

Sadly, it was decades later before an American, Ezra Warner, invented the can opener. By then, Durand was dead.

Not surprised

How could he get to the food in the cans? He must have starved to death.

[happyrobert]

the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

Okay, I feel bad about the Babbage thing. So, I did some googling for strictly British inventions and discovered that an Englishman, Peter Durand, invented the tin can in 1810, a very useful and lifesaving invention that made food safer to eat.

Sadly, it was decades later before an American, Ezra Warner, invented the can opener. By then, Durand was dead.

Not surprised

How could he get to the food in the cans? He must have starved to death.

Warner also took two empty cans, drilled holes in the bottom, and put a long string between them, but, rather than going down in history as the inventor of the first telephone, attempted to use them as a bolo as he had read about in a dime novel, thereby strangling himself.

[nong38]

.... I coming from the UK can say that Europe is not rich in natural resources but have managed to come up with a lot of rather usual bits and bobs throughout history and without what the UK has given where would be now ...

...radio, television, telephones, computers, internet, jet engines, power stations, railways, radar to name but a few and we are only about 1/6th the size of Thailand.

Wow!

radio RUSSIA-TESLA, GERMANY- HERTZ, INDIA-BOSE, ITALY-MARCONI

television AMERICA-Philo Taylor Farnsworth (probably rolling over repeatedly in his grave)

telephones GERMANS, ITALIANS AND AMERICANS: MANZETTI, REIS, GRAY, BELL AND EDISON, ALTHOUGH BELL WAS THE ONE TO PATENT THE FIRST WORKING MODEL.

computers (FIRST ELECTRONIC) AMERICA-JOHN ECKERT & JOHN MAUCHLY WITH THEIR ENIAC MODEL

internet DARPA IN AMERICA, (SIR TIMOTHY BERNERS-LEE DID HOWEVER INVENT THE WWW, SO IT WAS USABLE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC)

jet engines OKAY, A BRIT AND A GERMAN:

Dr. Hans von Ohain and Sir Frank Whittle are both recognized as being the co-inventors of the jet engine.

von Ohain is considered the designer of the first operational turbojet engine.

Frank Whittle was the first to register a patent for the turbojet engine in 1930.

But,.Hans von Ohain's jet was the first to fly in 1939. Frank Whittle's jet first flew in in 1941.

TIE!

power stations TESLA OR EDISON, TAKE YOUR PICK (THERE'S A GREAT HISTORICAL NOVEL, THE DEVIL IN THE WHITE CITY, BY ERIC LARSON, THAT TELLS ABOUT THEIR FEUD DURING THE 1893 CHICAGO WORLD'S FAIR)

railways YUP, GEORGE STEPHENSON, BRITISH

radar 1886 HERTZ AGAIN, 1904 HUELSMEYER-GERMAN WITH PATENT, 1922 TAYLOR AND YOUNG-AMERICA , 1934 PAGE, AMERICA, 1934 TESLA WITH FRENCH PATENT,1935 SIR ROBERT WATSON WATT-SCOTTISH BUT BRITISH PATENT. 1940, AMERICAN NAVY COINED TERM: RADAR

Lots of people deserve credit for most of our great inventions. Significant inventions-unlike Facebook- require many brilliant minds and stretches of time and effort to produce. Not quite fair, then, to take credit away from all those folks--and their are many more than I mentioned--and hand it to one man.

Don't you agree?

Sorry I did not get back to you sooner, been watching the Indai/ England cricket, the game we invented along with Football ( Association ) and Golf.

I should have been more specific with my cjhoice of woeds, sorry about that on a few things. Charles Babbage did invent the concept of the programmable computer and the first working model, which you can see at Bletchley Park was Collossus built by Alan Turin and chums in the second war,

Franck Whittle did invent the Jet Engine in 1920 but did not patent it until 1030. Whilst it is true that the Germans had the first working model, Heinkel 178 it had very limited flying time, the Meteor came along in 1941.

Radar, as it came to be known was first made to work at the Daventry short wave site of the BBC and eventually the range was extended to 25 miles, but could identify friend or foe, the later develeoped 125 "over the horizon version is the basically the one we use today, The development of Radar came about after investigations into the possible use of a death ray, the BBC put up 1000 pounds for anyone who could produce a weapon to kill a sheep ata 1000 yards! The power required for such a device was unachieveable at the time, but the concept of radar looked possible.

Now dont forget the worlds first commercial nuclear power station at Calder Hall, Woelds first piblic Underground Railway, the angled flight deck, steam catapult on aircraft carriers will you. I forgot the internet, yes, I did mean the woeld wide web which most people I know call the internet, without whhich we would not be having this conversation. For a small country I think we did the world a lot, sadly it is not the same as it once was the Great has just about gone now, but I am sure from time to time something will pop up. like didital radio which we made work and appears now to be the world standard system. It was not my intention to take credit away from others, just dpends on the point you are making and how much time you have, now I must prepae for the cricket, going rather well for England.

[happyrobert]

.... I coming from the UK can say that Europe is not rich in natural resources but have managed to come up with a lot of rather usual bits and bobs throughout history and without what the UK has given where would be now ...

...radio, television, telephones, computers, internet, jet engines, power stations, railways, radar to name but a few and we are only about 1/6th the size of Thailand.

Wow!

radio RUSSIA-TESLA, GERMANY- HERTZ, INDIA-BOSE, ITALY-MARCONI

television AMERICA-Philo Taylor Farnsworth (probably rolling over repeatedly in his grave)

telephones GERMANS, ITALIANS AND AMERICANS: MANZETTI, REIS, GRAY, BELL AND EDISON, ALTHOUGH BELL WAS THE ONE TO PATENT THE FIRST WORKING MODEL.

computers (FIRST ELECTRONIC) AMERICA-JOHN ECKERT & JOHN MAUCHLY WITH THEIR ENIAC MODEL

internet DARPA IN AMERICA, (SIR TIMOTHY BERNERS-LEE DID HOWEVER INVENT THE WWW, SO IT WAS USABLE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC)

jet engines OKAY, A BRIT AND A GERMAN:

Dr. Hans von Ohain and Sir Frank Whittle are both recognized as being the co-inventors of the jet engine.

von Ohain is considered the designer of the first operational turbojet engine.

Frank Whittle was the first to register a patent for the turbojet engine in 1930.

But,.Hans von Ohain's jet was the first to fly in 1939. Frank Whittle's jet first flew in in 1941.

TIE!

power stations TESLA OR EDISON, TAKE YOUR PICK (THERE'S A GREAT HISTORICAL NOVEL, THE DEVIL IN THE WHITE CITY, BY ERIC LARSON, THAT TELLS ABOUT THEIR FEUD DURING THE 1893 CHICAGO WORLD'S FAIR)

railways YUP, GEORGE STEPHENSON, BRITISH

radar 1886 HERTZ AGAIN, 1904 HUELSMEYER-GERMAN WITH PATENT, 1922 TAYLOR AND YOUNG-AMERICA , 1934 PAGE, AMERICA, 1934 TESLA WITH FRENCH PATENT,1935 SIR ROBERT WATSON WATT-SCOTTISH BUT BRITISH PATENT. 1940, AMERICAN NAVY COINED TERM: RADAR

Lots of people deserve credit for most of our great inventions. Significant inventions-unlike Facebook- require many brilliant minds and stretches of time and effort to produce. Not quite fair, then, to take credit away from all those folks--and their are many more than I mentioned--and hand it to one man.

Don't you agree?

Sorry I did not get back to you sooner, been watching the Indai/ England cricket, the game we invented along with Football ( Association ) and Golf.

I should have been more specific with my cjhoice of woeds, sorry about that on a few things. Charles Babbage did invent the concept of the programmable computer and the first working model, which you can see at Bletchley Park was Collossus built by Alan Turin and chums in the second war,

Franck Whittle did invent the Jet Engine in 1920 but did not patent it until 1030. Whilst it is true that the Germans had the first working model, Heinkel 178 it had very limited flying time, the Meteor came along in 1941.

Radar, as it came to be known was first made to work at the Daventry short wave site of the BBC and eventually the range was extended to 25 miles, but could identify friend or foe, the later develeoped 125 "over the horizon version is the basically the one we use today, The development of Radar came about after investigations into the possible use of a death ray, the BBC put up 1000 pounds for anyone who could produce a weapon to kill a sheep ata 1000 yards! The power required for such a device was unachieveable at the time, but the concept of radar looked possible.

Now dont forget the worlds first commercial nuclear power station at Calder Hall, Woelds first piblic Underground Railway, the angled flight deck, steam catapult on aircraft carriers will you. I forgot the internet, yes, I did mean the woeld wide web which most people I know call the internet, without whhich we would not be having this conversation. For a small country I think we did the world a lot, sadly it is not the same as it once was the Great has just about gone now, but I am sure from time to time something will pop up. like didital radio which we made work and appears now to be the world standard system. It was not my intention to take credit away from others, just dpends on the point you are making and how much time you have, now I must prepae for the cricket, going rather well for England.

Thank you. A thoughtful and genteel reply, expected, since the British did also invent genteel. (Shame it's not used too much anymore )

And, don't forget the corkscrew (Heely) which made it possible--finally--for all those whiny winey French to finally stop scratching their heads and drink their wine (nicely aged, at that); the electric motor (Faraday); the Kelvin (Kelvin) temperature scale that-er, nevermind; the periscope (Grubb) which would someday come in handy when (Bourne-no, not Jason) later invented submarines; rubber bands (Perry); toilet paper (British Perforated Paper Co.) which they exasperatingly tried to export to SE Asia for many years, driving them into bankruptcy; and -- ta-dah! -- the salvation of many a Brit ex-pat in Thailand: Viagra (Drs Dunn, Wood (affectionately known as Woody) and Terrett). Pattaya wouldn't be the same without it!

Lastly, can we just agree that Al Gore invented the Internet?

Edited July 24, 2011 by happyrobert

[IMA_FARANG]

I've watched this topic since it began. I thought you guys babble and coo a while with your nonsense....then I would come in with the facts.

I did a Yahoo search for U.S. patents registered to Thais. Be aware this is not necessarily patents developed in Thailand, but just patents submitted to the U.S. patent office from Thais.

In 2006, the last year that figures are available for, 25 patents were applied for in the U.S. by Thais. The peak number of patents applied for by Thais in any of the last 10 years was 45 in 2002. The average number was about 10 patents applied for by Thais per year. Remember these are patents applied for in the U.S. by Thais, at least a portion of them being applied for by Thai researchers employed by U.S. companies in the U.S. What percentage that was I simply don't know, and the U.S. patent office simply doesn't say.

There is also a Thai patent applied for in 2009 in Thailand for a process that uses a variety of native Thai grass (the plant fiber, not the stuff you smoke) as an ingredient in what they call "particle board" (apparently a packaging matierial similar to cardboard) and used as a binder to give extra strength to this "particle board". From what I could make out, the process is to chop up this native Thai grass, and mix it into the matierial that is them pressed into "particle board" for packaging.

And finally, althouh I didn't find any evidence of a patent being filed...a Thai team from the Asian Institute of Technology (just outside Bangkok)actually won an award in 2010 for developing a process that uses "a colloidial matrix to suspend nano size gold particles in that matrix" to purify the polluted water and also kill harmful bacteria in that polutted water. Nano size gold particles have been shown before to kill bacteria on contact. From what I concieve this to mean this Thai research group at AIT devised a process to suspend the nano Gold particles in a Gelatin like matrix and then encase the whole thing in a filter assembly. The whole assembly then has polluted and bacterial infected water pumped slowly through it. The water is then cleaned of the pollution by the Geletin and also the bacteria in the water are killed by the nano particles of Gold. It seems this unit is in field trials in India and Bangladesh at this time. When the filter beomes clogged with dirt, it is simply removed, a new filter installed, and the used filter is the processed to remove the Gold nano particles from the Gelatin matrix to be recycled.

The ultimate goal of this research is to develop a low cost system that can be maintained by farmers wth litle knowledge of technology, that will remove pollution from fish ponds and rice paddys, kill harmful bacteria, and also aerate the water to provide oxygen in the water all at one go.

So that's the anwer to, "Did Thais ever invent anyhing?"

P.S. the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

No actually it wasn't. Babbage never actually BUILT any of his planned "computing engines". In fact they probably wouldn't have worked with the technology available to him at that time. He concieved them, but he never built any of them. And they were not DIGITAL computers but a type of Analog computer...using gears. In fact Babbage refers to them as "differential computing engines" not computers. At that time a "computer" was a person, usually a woman, who did arithmatical calculations in their heads and wrote down the intermediate answers to arrive at a final answer, by adding and subtracting those intermediate answers. So a "computer then was a human being,

Edited July 24, 2011 by IMA_FARANG

[Berkshire]

I've watched this topic since it began. I thought you guys babble and coo a while with your nonsense....then I would come in with the facts.

I did a Yahoo search for U.S. patents registered to Thais. Be aware this is not necessarily patents developed in Thailand, but just patents submitted to the U.S. patent office from Thais.

In 2006, the last year that figures are available for, 25 patents were applied for in the U.S. by Thais. The peak number of patents applied for by Thais in any of the last 10 years was 45 in 2002. The average number was about 10 patents applied for by Thais per year. Remember these are patents applied for in the U.S. by Thais, at least a portion of them being applied for by Thai researchers employed by U.S. companies in the U.S. What percentage that was I simply don't know, and the U.S. patent office simply doesn't say.

There is also a Thai patent applied for in 2009 in Thailand for a process that uses a variety of native Thai grass (the plant fiber, not the stuff you smoke) as an ingredient in what they call "particle board" (apparently a packaging matierial similar to cardboard) and used as a binder to give extra strength to this "particle board". From what I could make out, the process is to chop up this native Thai grass, and mix it into the matierial that is them pressed into "particle board" for packaging.

And finally, althouh I didn't find any evidence of a patent being filed...a Thai team from the Asian Institute of Technology (just outside Bangkok)actually won an award in 2010 for developing a process that uses "a colloidial matrix to suspend nano size gold particles in that matrix" to purify the polluted water and also kill harmful bacteria in that polutted water. Nano size gold particles have been shown before to kill bacteria on contact. From what I concieve this to mean this Thai research group at AIT devised a process to suspend the nano Gold particles in a Gelatin like matrix and then encase the whole thing in a filter assembly. The whole assembly then has polluted and bacterial infected water pumped slowly through it. The water is then cleaned of the pollution by the Geletin and also the bacteria in the water are killed by the nano particles of Gold. It seems this unit is in field trials in India and Bangladesh at this time. When the filter beomes clogged with dirt, it is simply removed, a new filter installed, and the used filter is the processed to remove the Gold nano particles from the Gelatin matrix to be recycled.

The ultimate goal of this research is to develop a low cost system that can be maintained by farmers wth litle knowledge of technology, that will remove pollution from fish ponds and rice paddys, kill harmful bacteria, and also aerate the water to provide oxygen in the water all at one go.

So that's the anwer to, "Did Thais ever invent anyhing?"

Wow, a TV poster who actually did his homework. Not something we see every day. Especially not on this thread.

[OlafStapleton]

I've watched this topic since it began. I thought you guys babble and coo a while with your nonsense....then I would come in with the facts.

I did a Yahoo search for U.S. patents registered to Thais. Be aware this is not necessarily patents developed in Thailand, but just patents submitted to the U.S. patent office from Thais.

In 2006, the last year that figures are available for, 25 patents were applied for in the U.S. by Thais. The peak number of patents applied for by Thais in any of the last 10 years was 45 in 2002. The average number was about 10 patents applied for by Thais per year. Remember these are patents applied for in the U.S. by Thais, at least a portion of them being applied for by Thai researchers employed by U.S. companies in the U.S. What percentage that was I simply don't know, and the U.S. patent office simply doesn't say.

There is also a Thai patent applied for in 2009 in Thailand for a process that uses a variety of native Thai grass (the plant fiber, not the stuff you smoke) as an ingredient in what they call "particle board" (apparently a packaging matierial similar to cardboard) and used as a binder to give extra strength to this "particle board". From what I could make out, the process is to chop up this native Thai grass, and mix it into the matierial that is them pressed into "particle board" for packaging.

And finally, althouh I didn't find any evidence of a patent being filed...a Thai team from the Asian Institute of Technology (just outside Bangkok)actually won an award in 2010 for developing a process that uses "a colloidial matrix to suspend nano size gold particles in that matrix" to purify the polluted water and also kill harmful bacteria in that polutted water. Nano size gold particles have been shown before to kill bacteria on contact. From what I concieve this to mean this Thai research group at AIT devised a process to suspend the nano Gold particles in a Gelatin like matrix and then encase the whole thing in a filter assembly. The whole assembly then has polluted and bacterial infected water pumped slowly through it. The water is then cleaned of the pollution by the Geletin and also the bacteria in the water are killed by the nano particles of Gold. It seems this unit is in field trials in India and Bangladesh at this time. When the filter beomes clogged with dirt, it is simply removed, a new filter installed, and the used filter is the processed to remove the Gold nano particles from the Gelatin matrix to be recycled.

The ultimate goal of this research is to develop a low cost system that can be maintained by farmers wth litle knowledge of technology, that will remove pollution from fish ponds and rice paddys, kill harmful bacteria, and also aerate the water to provide oxygen in the water all at one go.

So that's the anwer to, "Did Thais ever invent anyhing?"

Wow, a TV poster who actually did his homework. Not something we see every day. Especially not on this thread.

He just agree with everyone else

Thai invent nothing worthwhile

But take longer to say that.

[happyrobert]

I've watched this topic since it began. I thought you guys babble and coo a while with your nonsense....then I would come in with the facts.

I did a Yahoo search for U.S. patents registered to Thais. Be aware this is not necessarily patents developed in Thailand, but just patents submitted to the U.S. patent office from Thais.

In 2006, the last year that figures are available for, 25 patents were applied for in the U.S. by Thais. The peak number of patents applied for by Thais in any of the last 10 years was 45 in 2002. The average number was about 10 patents applied for by Thais per year. Remember these are patents applied for in the U.S. by Thais, at least a portion of them being applied for by Thai researchers employed by U.S. companies in the U.S. What percentage that was I simply don't know, and the U.S. patent office simply doesn't say.

There is also a Thai patent applied for in 2009 in Thailand for a process that uses a variety of native Thai grass (the plant fiber, not the stuff you smoke) as an ingredient in what they call "particle board" (apparently a packaging matierial similar to cardboard) and used as a binder to give extra strength to this "particle board". From what I could make out, the process is to chop up this native Thai grass, and mix it into the matierial that is them pressed into "particle board" for packaging.

And finally, althouh I didn't find any evidence of a patent being filed...a Thai team from the Asian Institute of Technology (just outside Bangkok)actually won an award in 2010 for developing a process that uses "a colloidial matrix to suspend nano size gold particles in that matrix" to purify the polluted water and also kill harmful bacteria in that polutted water. Nano size gold particles have been shown before to kill bacteria on contact. From what I concieve this to mean this Thai research group at AIT devised a process to suspend the nano Gold particles in a Gelatin like matrix and then encase the whole thing in a filter assembly. The whole assembly then has polluted and bacterial infected water pumped slowly through it. The water is then cleaned of the pollution by the Geletin and also the bacteria in the water are killed by the nano particles of Gold. It seems this unit is in field trials in India and Bangladesh at this time. When the filter beomes clogged with dirt, it is simply removed, a new filter installed, and the used filter is the processed to remove the Gold nano particles from the Gelatin matrix to be recycled.

The ultimate goal of this research is to develop a low cost system that can be maintained by farmers wth litle knowledge of technology, that will remove pollution from fish ponds and rice paddys, kill harmful bacteria, and also aerate the water to provide oxygen in the water all at one go.

So that's the anwer to, "Did Thais ever invent anyhing?"

Wow, a TV poster who actually did his homework. Not something we see every day. Especially not on this thread.

He just agree with everyone else

Thai invent nothing worthwhile

But take longer to say that.

Succinctly put.

[bendejo]

I credit the native Thais or some other tribe of the region for inventing the bong. The guys returning from the VN war brought them back, which is how they became popular.

And if they didn't invent it then, like, dude, who cares? Just don't knock it over, the water'll make the rug stink, ok?

[leo12345]

I know someone who invented the 3rd face

[soomak]

I've watched this topic since it began. I thought you guys babble and coo a while with your nonsense....then I would come in with the facts.

I did a Yahoo search for U.S. patents registered to Thais. Be aware this is not necessarily patents developed in Thailand, but just patents submitted to the U.S. patent office from Thais.

In 2006, the last year that figures are available for, 25 patents were applied for in the U.S. by Thais. The peak number of patents applied for by Thais in any of the last 10 years was 45 in 2002. The average number was about 10 patents applied for by Thais per year. Remember these are patents applied for in the U.S. by Thais, at least a portion of them being applied for by Thai researchers employed by U.S. companies in the U.S. What percentage that was I simply don't know, and the U.S. patent office simply doesn't say.

There is also a Thai patent applied for in 2009 in Thailand for a process that uses a variety of native Thai grass (the plant fiber, not the stuff you smoke) as an ingredient in what they call "particle board" (apparently a packaging matierial similar to cardboard) and used as a binder to give extra strength to this "particle board". From what I could make out, the process is to chop up this native Thai grass, and mix it into the matierial that is them pressed into "particle board" for packaging.

And finally, althouh I didn't find any evidence of a patent being filed...a Thai team from the Asian Institute of Technology (just outside Bangkok)actually won an award in 2010 for developing a process that uses "a colloidial matrix to suspend nano size gold particles in that matrix" to purify the polluted water and also kill harmful bacteria in that polutted water. Nano size gold particles have been shown before to kill bacteria on contact. From what I concieve this to mean this Thai research group at AIT devised a process to suspend the nano Gold particles in a Gelatin like matrix and then encase the whole thing in a filter assembly. The whole assembly then has polluted and bacterial infected water pumped slowly through it. The water is then cleaned of the pollution by the Geletin and also the bacteria in the water are killed by the nano particles of Gold. It seems this unit is in field trials in India and Bangladesh at this time. When the filter beomes clogged with dirt, it is simply removed, a new filter installed, and the used filter is the processed to remove the Gold nano particles from the Gelatin matrix to be recycled.

The ultimate goal of this research is to develop a low cost system that can be maintained by farmers wth litle knowledge of technology, that will remove pollution from fish ponds and rice paddys, kill harmful bacteria, and also aerate the water to provide oxygen in the water all at one go.

So that's the anwer to, "Did Thais ever invent anyhing?"

P.S. the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

No actually it wasn't. Babbage never actually BUILT any of his planned "computing engines". In fact they probably wouldn't have worked with the technology available to him at that time. He concieved them, but he never built any of them. And they were not DIGITAL computers but a type of Analog computer...using gears. In fact Babbage refers to them as "differential computing engines" not computers. At that time a "computer" was a person, usually a woman, who did arithmatical calculations in their heads and wrote down the intermediate answers to arrive at a final answer, by adding and subtracting those intermediate answers. So a "computer then was a human being,

True, I just checked the US patent office and there are 920 patents registered by Thais since 1976 (about 26 patents per year).

Most patents are just ideas or concepts, but some of them must be real inventions or at least improvements to something.

By the way, that is (26.3 / 60 ) = 0.43 patents per million people per year (i use 60 million since the stats are from 1976 till today)

And a quick comparison:

for UK: 38 patents per millions people per year (90 times more then Thailand per million people)

for Germany: 114 patents per millions people per year (265 times more)

for Israel: 116 patents per millions people per year (270 times more)

for Japan: 197 patents per millions people per year (459 times more)

It's all about numbers...

[happyrobert]

True, I just checked the US patent office and there are 920 patents registered by Thais since 1976 (about 26 patents per year).

Most patents are just ideas or concepts, but some of them must be real inventions or at least improvements to something.

By the way, that is (26.3 / 60 ) = 0.43 patents per million people per year (i use 60 million since the stats are from 1976 till today)

And a quick comparison:

for UK: 38 patents per millions people per year (90 times more then Thailand per million people)

for Germany: 114 patents per millions people per year (265 times more)

for Israel: 116 patents per millions people per year (270 times more)

for Japan: 197 patents per millions people per year (459 times more)

It's all about numbers...

Yes it is, and very nice bit of info. Look at those Japanese, wow, 197 per million. Impressive.

I'm guessing that the patents from the other countries were not about growing some grass and mixing it with wood particles?

As for the water purifier....well, necessity is the mother of invention!

[slapout]

The number of good ideas (which are original/patentable) vs population count, country of origin, the citizenship of the inventor, etc, mean very little if the idea has no value to the rest of mankind. A number count of patents probably have little comparison value, unless they are equated to the number of people, who benefit from the concept/invention.

[happyrobert]

The number of good ideas (which are original/patentable) vs population count, country of origin, the citizenship of the inventor, etc, mean very little if the idea has no value to the rest of mankind. A number count of patents probably have little comparison value, unless they are equated to the number of people, who benefit from the concept/invention.

So, all those patents applied for by the Japanese had no value for the rest of mankind? You think they were all for new sushi rolls? :jap:

[leo12345]

The Thai oven is where you grill food and coverwith a bowl

[wolf5370]

Well for a civilization as old as Thailand (and others) is, then why have they not advanced as quickly as Western ones? They have had a few thousand extra years to develop so they should be at the pinnacle of civilization. How can this be explained?

Alright coffee dude, let me apply some of your logic. Have the English, French, German, Greeks, Italians, Scandanavians, Egyptians, South Americans, etc., ever sent a man to the moon? Well why not? Americans have and America is only a couple of centuries old. Many would say that space exploration demonstrates the ultimate in scientific advancement and ingenuity. These other countries (in your words) "have had a few thousand extra years to develop so they should be at the pinnacle of civilization. How can this be explained?" Cmon, way2muchcoffee, have some gonads and answer my question.

Erm those other civilisations "invented" America, so in a way...besides we all now know the USA only went to the moon to find the lost tranformer, Sentinel Prime!

"If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants" Isaac Newton.

It is silly really to look for inventions as they are all based on earlier inventions in some way (and on nature too in a lot of cases - so the Universe itself wins on that one). In earlier times they were often plagerised mercilessly and many known inventors bought or stole their inventions - or simply were not the first to have invented them. The same goes with discoveries and "events" (such as flying). A more pertinent question would be, given the evolution of science and technology over the last half millenia, why do we still have all the ills of bygone times (drought, plague, pestilence, famine, war, crime, starving, disposessed, despodic nuts, etc)? and why has the path of technology turned towards making life easier for the wealthy over necessity for mankind?

I think Thailand, and many third world countries have the right "head" screwed on in general here - invent when there is no existing solution, innovate where there is some sort of solution (Thailand should win a ton of awards in this category!) and get on with it if there already exists a solution - in the west we tend to start with the solution and then go looking for a problem for it to solve (or more accurately someone to sell it to).

[wolf5370]

I've watched this topic since it began. I thought you guys babble and coo a while with your nonsense....then I would come in with the facts.

I did a Yahoo search for U.S. patents registered to Thais. Be aware this is not necessarily patents developed in Thailand, but just patents submitted to the U.S. patent office from Thais.

In 2006, the last year that figures are available for, 25 patents were applied for in the U.S. by Thais. The peak number of patents applied for by Thais in any of the last 10 years was 45 in 2002. The average number was about 10 patents applied for by Thais per year. Remember these are patents applied for in the U.S. by Thais, at least a portion of them being applied for by Thai researchers employed by U.S. companies in the U.S. What percentage that was I simply don't know, and the U.S. patent office simply doesn't say.

There is also a Thai patent applied for in 2009 in Thailand for a process that uses a variety of native Thai grass (the plant fiber, not the stuff you smoke) as an ingredient in what they call "particle board" (apparently a packaging matierial similar to cardboard) and used as a binder to give extra strength to this "particle board". From what I could make out, the process is to chop up this native Thai grass, and mix it into the matierial that is them pressed into "particle board" for packaging.

And finally, althouh I didn't find any evidence of a patent being filed...a Thai team from the Asian Institute of Technology (just outside Bangkok)actually won an award in 2010 for developing a process that uses "a colloidial matrix to suspend nano size gold particles in that matrix" to purify the polluted water and also kill harmful bacteria in that polutted water. Nano size gold particles have been shown before to kill bacteria on contact. From what I concieve this to mean this Thai research group at AIT devised a process to suspend the nano Gold particles in a Gelatin like matrix and then encase the whole thing in a filter assembly. The whole assembly then has polluted and bacterial infected water pumped slowly through it. The water is then cleaned of the pollution by the Geletin and also the bacteria in the water are killed by the nano particles of Gold. It seems this unit is in field trials in India and Bangladesh at this time. When the filter beomes clogged with dirt, it is simply removed, a new filter installed, and the used filter is the processed to remove the Gold nano particles from the Gelatin matrix to be recycled.

The ultimate goal of this research is to develop a low cost system that can be maintained by farmers wth litle knowledge of technology, that will remove pollution from fish ponds and rice paddys, kill harmful bacteria, and also aerate the water to provide oxygen in the water all at one go.

So that's the anwer to, "Did Thais ever invent anyhing?"

P.S. the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

No actually it wasn't. Babbage never actually BUILT any of his planned "computing engines". In fact they probably wouldn't have worked with the technology available to him at that time. He concieved them, but he never built any of them. And they were not DIGITAL computers but a type of Analog computer...using gears. In fact Babbage refers to them as "differential computing engines" not computers. At that time a "computer" was a person, usually a woman, who did arithmatical calculations in their heads and wrote down the intermediate answers to arrive at a final answer, by adding and subtracting those intermediate answers. So a "computer then was a human being,

True, I just checked the US patent office and there are 920 patents registered by Thais since 1976 (about 26 patents per year).

Most patents are just ideas or concepts, but some of them must be real inventions or at least improvements to something.

By the way, that is (26.3 / 60 ) = 0.43 patents per million people per year (i use 60 million since the stats are from 1976 till today)

And a quick comparison:

for UK: 38 patents per millions people per year (90 times more then Thailand per million people)

for Germany: 114 patents per millions people per year (265 times more)

for Israel: 116 patents per millions people per year (270 times more)

for Japan: 197 patents per millions people per year (459 times more)

It's all about numbers...

Mmmm - ignoring the facts that patents aren't necessarily inventions and inventions aren't necessarily patented, the question has to be "If a patent comes from a country, does that mean the inventor is from that country?" - Who invented the Atom Bomb? USA? How many foreigners worked on the project (both scientists and support people)?

Babbage did not actually finish his Difference WEngine (though working models exist, made after his death). His Analytical Engine was programmable, with punched cards! (Indded Ada Lavelace - who is immortalised in the porgraming language ADA - wrote the worlds first program for itm so she invented computer programming too!).

Does one have to actuially build something to be an inventor or just design it? If I design a new type of space telescope for example and allow NASA to build it, am I no longer the inventor - or do I need all those billions of dollars to create my own space industry to get up there and build it?

People invent, not countries. Now adays it is much more likeley to be teams of researchers funded by (or within) big business - so that's every shareholder as the inventor then?

[soomak]

I've watched this topic since it began. I thought you guys babble and coo a while with your nonsense....then I would come in with the facts.

I did a Yahoo search for U.S. patents registered to Thais. Be aware this is not necessarily patents developed in Thailand, but just patents submitted to the U.S. patent office from Thais.

In 2006, the last year that figures are available for, 25 patents were applied for in the U.S. by Thais. The peak number of patents applied for by Thais in any of the last 10 years was 45 in 2002. The average number was about 10 patents applied for by Thais per year. Remember these are patents applied for in the U.S. by Thais, at least a portion of them being applied for by Thai researchers employed by U.S. companies in the U.S. What percentage that was I simply don't know, and the U.S. patent office simply doesn't say.

There is also a Thai patent applied for in 2009 in Thailand for a process that uses a variety of native Thai grass (the plant fiber, not the stuff you smoke) as an ingredient in what they call "particle board" (apparently a packaging matierial similar to cardboard) and used as a binder to give extra strength to this "particle board". From what I could make out, the process is to chop up this native Thai grass, and mix it into the matierial that is them pressed into "particle board" for packaging.

And finally, althouh I didn't find any evidence of a patent being filed...a Thai team from the Asian Institute of Technology (just outside Bangkok)actually won an award in 2010 for developing a process that uses "a colloidial matrix to suspend nano size gold particles in that matrix" to purify the polluted water and also kill harmful bacteria in that polutted water. Nano size gold particles have been shown before to kill bacteria on contact. From what I concieve this to mean this Thai research group at AIT devised a process to suspend the nano Gold particles in a Gelatin like matrix and then encase the whole thing in a filter assembly. The whole assembly then has polluted and bacterial infected water pumped slowly through it. The water is then cleaned of the pollution by the Geletin and also the bacteria in the water are killed by the nano particles of Gold. It seems this unit is in field trials in India and Bangladesh at this time. When the filter beomes clogged with dirt, it is simply removed, a new filter installed, and the used filter is the processed to remove the Gold nano particles from the Gelatin matrix to be recycled.

The ultimate goal of this research is to develop a low cost system that can be maintained by farmers wth litle knowledge of technology, that will remove pollution from fish ponds and rice paddys, kill harmful bacteria, and also aerate the water to provide oxygen in the water all at one go.

So that's the anwer to, "Did Thais ever invent anyhing?"

P.S. the computer was invented by Charles Babbage

No actually it wasn't. Babbage never actually BUILT any of his planned "computing engines". In fact they probably wouldn't have worked with the technology available to him at that time. He concieved them, but he never built any of them. And they were not DIGITAL computers but a type of Analog computer...using gears. In fact Babbage refers to them as "differential computing engines" not computers. At that time a "computer" was a person, usually a woman, who did arithmatical calculations in their heads and wrote down the intermediate answers to arrive at a final answer, by adding and subtracting those intermediate answers. So a "computer then was a human being,

True, I just checked the US patent office and there are 920 patents registered by Thais since 1976 (about 26 patents per year).

Most patents are just ideas or concepts, but some of them must be real inventions or at least improvements to something.

By the way, that is (26.3 / 60 ) = 0.43 patents per million people per year (i use 60 million since the stats are from 1976 till today)

And a quick comparison:

for UK: 38 patents per millions people per year (90 times more then Thailand per million people)

for Germany: 114 patents per millions people per year (265 times more)

for Israel: 116 patents per millions people per year (270 times more)

for Japan: 197 patents per millions people per year (459 times more)

It's all about numbers...

Mmmm - ignoring the facts that patents aren't necessarily inventions and inventions aren't necessarily patented, the question has to be "If a patent comes from a country, does that mean the inventor is from that country?" - Who invented the Atom Bomb? USA? How many foreigners worked on the project (both scientists and support people)?

Babbage did not actually finish his Difference WEngine (though working models exist, made after his death). His Analytical Engine was programmable, with punched cards! (Indded Ada Lavelace - who is immortalised in the porgraming language ADA - wrote the worlds first program for itm so she invented computer programming too!).

Does one have to actuially build something to be an inventor or just design it? If I design a new type of space telescope for example and allow NASA to build it, am I no longer the inventor - or do I need all those billions of dollars to create my own space industry to get up there and build it?

People invent, not countries. Now adays it is much more likeley to be teams of researchers funded by (or within) big business - so that's every shareholder as the inventor then?

Have no idea what you wanted to say, however, the number of patents is one of the only practical ways to measure innovation.

And if the number of patents is very low - it's an indication of a lack of innovation.

And on a different note:

All "life changing" inventions / innovations in the past 300-400 years came from what we call the "West":

- Democracy

- Human rights

- Women rights

- Antibiotics

- Television

- Computers

- Internet

- Birth control pills

- Pension plans

- Social security

- Automobiles / Trains

- Airplanes

- Nuclear power (and bombs)

- and last but not least - Viagra and its relatives

[mr3cho]

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