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At Donald Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally, a single phrase summed up the exaggerated efforts of Democrats to paint him as a modern Hitler. Wrestling icon Hulk Hogan shouted, “I don’t see no stinking Nazis in here!” — words that cut through the tense atmosphere surrounding Trump’s opponents’ narrative. The rally, far from the dark comparison made by critics, was filled with diverse supporters, including Jewish attendees and pro-Israel banners, hardly the symbols of fascism.

 

Yet, Hillary Clinton went as far as claiming Trump’s rally would be a “re-enactment” of the 1939 German-American Bund rally held in the same venue.

 

 

In 1939, the German-American Bund, an organization aligned with Nazi ideals, gathered at Madison Square Garden in what was a celebration of Hitler’s Third Reich and an expression of anti-Semitism. Clinton’s decision to compare Trump’s rally to this infamous event seems less a critique than a continuation of the trend among liberals to label Trump a fascist and existential threat to democracy. Since stepping onto the 2024 Democratic ticket, Kamala Harris initially promised to bring a message of “joy,” though her campaign, now nearing Election Day, has largely pivoted to a steady stream of anti-Trump rhetoric.

 

 

The liberal media, MSNBC included, has enthusiastically joined in the “Trump is Hitler” refrain. After years of linking Trump to unfounded allegations of Russian collusion in 2016, their coverage of his recent rally continued this narrative. “That jamboree happening right now... is particularly chilling because in 1939, more than 20,000 supporters of a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the Garden for a so-called pro-America rally,” one MSNBC anchor said, juxtaposing footage from Trump’s rally with clips from 1939. Ironically, Trump’s rally included Jerry Wartski, a Holocaust survivor, and a crowd of individuals with close ties to Judaism.

 

Trump’s family itself reflects his connections to Jewish culture, with his daughter Ivanka’s conversion to Judaism and marriage to Jared Kushner. For MSNBC to compare this crowd to Nazis is to ignore these facts altogether.

 

At the rally, Elon Musk echoed the frustration of many Trump supporters, calling MSNBC “scum of the Earth.” When questioned on the comparison between Trump’s rally and the 1939 Bund gathering, Kamala Harris did not refute it but instead accused Trump of stoking hate and division. Yet, this statement seemed ironic, as many felt that the narrative of “Trump as Hitler” was itself a divisive move that insulted those attending his events. Framing Trump supporters as Nazis is a damaging approach to take, especially when the country is already deeply polarized.

 

Reflecting on the events, one of the author’s last visits to Madison Square Garden was just after Trump’s 2016 victory. At that time, the comedian Chris Rock had offered an analogy: “If someone’s murdered eight people, don’t go around saying he’s murdered nine.” Rock didn’t mean Trump had committed actual murders, but that exaggerating Trump’s faults with far-fetched claims makes real criticism lose credibility. Yet, here we are, with the Democratic Party returning to the Hitler analogy in what appears to be a bid to scare Americans into avoiding a Trump vote.

 

Despite these efforts, polls indicate that Kamala Harris’s popularity suffers when she goes on the offensive. With inflation high and immigration issues unresolved, Americans seem to trust Trump more on these concerns. Harris, on the other hand, has struggled to provide a clear plan in interviews, giving Trump an edge on critical issues. Rather than uplifting voters with the “joy” Harris promised, the tone of her campaign has reinforced the grim reality of rising costs and economic uncertainty, which does little to inspire confidence.

 

Perhaps most telling was the turnout at the Garden. The Secret Service reportedly expected thousands of protestors against Trump, yet only 150 showed up. In 2016, large crowds of outraged liberals crowded New York streets at the very mention of Trump. But if they truly saw him as an imminent threat or a fascist leader, it’s likely they would have found the energy to make their voices heard again.

 

The smaller protest turnout and strong rally attendance seem to indicate a shift in public sentiment. The hyperbolic rhetoric of painting Trump as the next Hitler may finally be losing its potency, suggesting that the election will come down to voters’ core concerns rather than to emotional and extreme comparisons.

 

Based on an opinion by Piers Morgan NYP 2024-10-30

 

 

 

[Tug]

So we are supposed to ignore the (poisoning) the blood of the people?the (enemy within)the attacking of the weakest amongst us?the (only I can fix it) ditctator for a day?suspend the constitution?the attempted coup on j6 2020?the warnings from his cabinet?who the heck do the author of this article think they are fooling?

[Cryingdick]

It is what you do when you have nothing to say about yourself. Kamala is more tiresome by the day.

[Tug]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

It is what you do when you have nothing to say about yourself. Kamala is more tiresome by the day.

Harris grows stronger by the day as trump slips further down into his vile pit of dementia racism and bile.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, Tug said:

Harris grows stronger by the day as trump slips further down into his vile pit of dementia racism and bile.

 

You actually spelt racism right for a change are you okay? You can say what you want but most people think the momentum has built up for trump. Kamala was at a rally in Michigan last night, in Ann Arbor. Why? Because she wouldn't dare a crowd or be welcome in most other locations. Trump goes where he wants and people show up.

[jippytum]

The persistent persecution of Donald Trump with vinditive legal action and media lies has backfired. 

The dirty actions of the opposition have far outweighed some questionable actions  by Trump. 

As a result he increased voter support and will win another term  in office. 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

When a candidate can't point to any resounding successes to prove they have a better future to offer, what is left to say?

 

Harris spent many years in politics and has nothing to prove she has what it takes to be a good POTUS. When one's only positive is that one isn't Trump, it's a hard road to winning.

 

Seems to me that Trump is gathering support as the election nears, and all she has is "Trump bad, Trump bad". Kennedy won over Nixon because he offered a brighter future, and Trump offers a proven track record over Trump hate.

[Tug]

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When a candidate can't point to any resounding successes to prove they have a better future to offer, what is left to say?

 

Harris spent many years in politics and has nothing to prove she has what it takes to be a good POTUS. When one's only positive is that one isn't Trump, it's a hard road to winning.

 

Seems to me that Trump is gathering support as the election nears, and all she has is "Trump bad, Trump bad". Kennedy won over Nixon because he offered a brighter future, and Trump offers a proven track record over Trump hate.

Yea we will ignore the GDP stockmarket the unemployment figures infrastructure drug prices for seniors the strengthening of nato supporting our allies…..did you catch the speech on the ellipse by chance?compare the rhetoric and just who makes sense…..nothing to offer indeed!oh and btw 75,000 people attended the speech on the ellipse 

Edited 5 hours ago by Tug

[Chomper Higgot]

Well it might fall flat with Piers Morgan (not an American and hence not a voter), but at least he had the ear of the NYP and Trump supporters, both foreign and domestic.

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When a candidate can't point to any resounding successes to prove they have a better future to offer, what is left to say?

Racist comments about immigrants, and fear mongering seem to be the go to.

 

 

[Tom Parkinson]

I think the comparison of Trump to Hitler is absurd. Comparing him to Mussolini, however, might be spot on. 

[JonnyF]

It's pathetic at this point.

 

You'd think they could come up with something more imaginative but these are leftist Harris supporters we are talking about. They have become absolutely unhinged as Tug's posts on this very thread demonstrate. 

 

The electorate aren't buying it. It's the boy who cried wolf. Anyway, Harris' career will be over next week so the pain is coming to an end.

 

 

[impulse]

I don't recall ever seeing Hitler do this in the history books:

 

 

Nor Harris...

 

The guy's a PR genius.

 

[thaipo7]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

So we are supposed to ignore the (poisoning) the blood of the people?the (enemy within)the attacking of the weakest amongst us?the (only I can fix it) ditctator for a day?suspend the constitution?the attempted coup on j6 2020?the warnings from his cabinet?who the heck do the author of this article think they are fooling?

Don't ignore that all you Leftist have a mental defect.  There is something really wrong with the Leftist mindset.  Propaganda has really taken hold of the Marxist Democrats.  You are a victim.  Cleanse your mind.

[Wrwest]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

I don't recall ever seeing Hitler do this in the history books:

 

 

Nor Harris...

 

The guy's a PR genius.

 

Do what? Pose in a fake PR attempt to make it appear he is working at a McDonald's? What a sad attempt ...

[newbee2022]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

At Donald Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally, a single phrase summed up the exaggerated efforts of Democrats to paint him as a modern Hitler. Wrestling icon Hulk Hogan shouted, “I don’t see no stinking Nazis in here!” — words that cut through the tense atmosphere surrounding Trump’s opponents’ narrative. The rally, far from the dark comparison made by critics, was filled with diverse supporters, including Jewish attendees and pro-Israel banners, hardly the symbols of fascism.

 

Yet, Hillary Clinton went as far as claiming Trump’s rally would be a “re-enactment” of the 1939 German-American Bund rally held in the same venue.

 

 

In 1939, the German-American Bund, an organization aligned with Nazi ideals, gathered at Madison Square Garden in what was a celebration of Hitler’s Third Reich and an expression of anti-Semitism. Clinton’s decision to compare Trump’s rally to this infamous event seems less a critique than a continuation of the trend among liberals to label Trump a fascist and existential threat to democracy. Since stepping onto the 2024 Democratic ticket, Kamala Harris initially promised to bring a message of “joy,” though her campaign, now nearing Election Day, has largely pivoted to a steady stream of anti-Trump rhetoric.

 

 

The liberal media, MSNBC included, has enthusiastically joined in the “Trump is Hitler” refrain. After years of linking Trump to unfounded allegations of Russian collusion in 2016, their coverage of his recent rally continued this narrative. “That jamboree happening right now... is particularly chilling because in 1939, more than 20,000 supporters of a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the Garden for a so-called pro-America rally,” one MSNBC anchor said, juxtaposing footage from Trump’s rally with clips from 1939. Ironically, Trump’s rally included Jerry Wartski, a Holocaust survivor, and a crowd of individuals with close ties to Judaism.

 

Trump’s family itself reflects his connections to Jewish culture, with his daughter Ivanka’s conversion to Judaism and marriage to Jared Kushner. For MSNBC to compare this crowd to Nazis is to ignore these facts altogether.

 

At the rally, Elon Musk echoed the frustration of many Trump supporters, calling MSNBC “scum of the Earth.” When questioned on the comparison between Trump’s rally and the 1939 Bund gathering, Kamala Harris did not refute it but instead accused Trump of stoking hate and division. Yet, this statement seemed ironic, as many felt that the narrative of “Trump as Hitler” was itself a divisive move that insulted those attending his events. Framing Trump supporters as Nazis is a damaging approach to take, especially when the country is already deeply polarized.

 

Reflecting on the events, one of the author’s last visits to Madison Square Garden was just after Trump’s 2016 victory. At that time, the comedian Chris Rock had offered an analogy: “If someone’s murdered eight people, don’t go around saying he’s murdered nine.” Rock didn’t mean Trump had committed actual murders, but that exaggerating Trump’s faults with far-fetched claims makes real criticism lose credibility. Yet, here we are, with the Democratic Party returning to the Hitler analogy in what appears to be a bid to scare Americans into avoiding a Trump vote.

 

 

Despite these efforts, polls indicate that Kamala Harris’s popularity suffers when she goes on the offensive. With inflation high and immigration issues unresolved, Americans seem to trust Trump more on these concerns. Harris, on the other hand, has struggled to provide a clear plan in interviews, giving Trump an edge on critical issues. Rather than uplifting voters with the “joy” Harris promised, the tone of her campaign has reinforced the grim reality of rising costs and economic uncertainty, which does little to inspire confidence.

 

Perhaps most telling was the turnout at the Garden. The Secret Service reportedly expected thousands of protestors against Trump, yet only 150 showed up. In 2016, large crowds of outraged liberals crowded New York streets at the very mention of Trump. But if they truly saw him as an imminent threat or a fascist leader, it’s likely they would have found the energy to make their voices heard again.

 

The smaller protest turnout and strong rally attendance seem to indicate a shift in public sentiment. The hyperbolic rhetoric of painting Trump as the next Hitler may finally be losing its potency, suggesting that the election will come down to voters’ core concerns rather than to emotional and extreme comparisons.

 

Based on an opinion by Piers Morgan NYP 2024-10-30

 

 

 

Sh, Pierce Morgan again 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[Jo M]

"An Holocaust survivor, and a crowd of individuals with close ties to Judaism."

WOW, Impressive!

Define close ties to Judaism?

Muslims mainly? (Cousins by the bible).

Christians? Jesus (Joshua) was a jew.

So who was there?

Maybe Porto Ricans from the "floating island of garbage"?

This article insights look like Porto Rico in Trump's definition...

Or like a 71 old clown that could not even rip his own shirt. 

PITY. 

[RichardColeman]

I suggest Harris and her idiot followers watch this 

 

[ignore it]

Having nothing valid to say and avoiding discussing how current policies will simply continue, the dems have resorted to name calling.

 

With the Hitler bit failing miserably, I suspect they will start calling Trump the devil incarnate, Beelzebub, the evil one.

 

 

[renaissanc]

I think that the Dementia Joe / Comrade Kamala / Dem-Marxist Committee are hoping that if they keep saying he's Hitler, that he'll annul the Constitution, blah, blah, blah, someone will assassinate Trump between now and 5th November ... or by 20th January 2025 if he becomes President.

[renaissanc]

1 minute ago, ignore it said:

Having nothing valid to say and avoiding discussing how current policies will simply continue, the dems have resorted to name calling.

 

With the Hitler bit failing miserably, I suspect they will start calling Trump the devil incarnate, Beelzebub, the evil one.

 

 

Maybe this will be the new strategy if he wins. "Trump is Satan on Earth!" LOL!

[John Drake]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

I don't recall ever seeing Hitler do this in the history books:

 

 

Nor Harris...

 

The guy's a PR genius.

 

 

Mark Cuban beat him to it. Cuban worked at Dairy Queen for a day in 2002.