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Axel Rudakubana, an 18-year-old suspect in the Southport murders, has been formally charged with producing the deadly poison ricin and possessing a terrorist manual. Merseyside Police confirmed that, in addition to accusations related to the fatal stabbings of three young girls, Rudakubana faces serious terror charges. These charges include manufacturing the biological toxin ricin and holding information related to terrorist activities.

 

 

The suspect stands accused of fatally stabbing three young girls—Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and Alice Da Silva Aguiar, nine—at a Taylor Swift-themed holiday club this past July. Along with these tragic deaths, Rudakubana also faces charges for ten attempted murders and the possession of a knife. Following the attack, misinformation spread rapidly on social media, leading to riots across various UK towns and cities.

 

 

According to Chief Constable Serena Kennedy, the Crown Prosecution Service granted authorization to charge Rudakubana with terror-related offenses, including “Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual.” Additionally, he is accused of possessing information deemed valuable for those preparing or committing acts of terrorism.

 

Former immigration minister and current Tory leadership candidate Robert Jenrick expressed “serious concerns” regarding potential delays or omissions of information provided to the public. Jenrick remarked, “The Government and authorities told us for months they were not treating this as a terrorist incident. This atrocity was of immense public concern. The public had a right to know the truth straight away.”

 

The police’s initial statements after the July 29 attack indicated the “motivation for the attack was unclear” and asserted it was “not believed to be terror-related.” Yesterday’s revelation of the terror charge prompted widespread questions regarding the police’s initial conclusions and their timing. Jenrick emphasized the critical need for public transparency, saying, “Any suggestion of a cover-up will permanently damage public trust in whether we’re being told the truth about crime in our country.”

 

He further called on Keir Starmer to clarify his awareness and knowledge of the incident, stating, “Keir Starmer must urgently explain to the country what he knew about the Southport attack and when he learned it.”

 

Some commentators, including Jenrick, speculate about broader issues with government transparency, particularly concerning crime and migration. He suggested, “Across the board, the hard reality of mass migration is being covered up. We need the truth—and we need to change.”

 

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Southport Stabbing: Child Killed and Several Injured in Taylor Swift-Themed Workshop Attack

 

Based on a report from the Daily Mail 2024-10-30

 

 

 

[transam]

Yes, and I remember some here supporting him as not being a terrorist. ...

So yes, it would seem his background, where his genes came from, were involved..🤔

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/southport-stabbing-axel-rudakubana-court-terror-155414499.html

[James105]

Of course it was an Islamic attack on those little girls, literally no-one with a brain cell is surprised in the slightest. The PR team for this monster deserve an award for making him out to be an innocent christian schoolboy from wales who once appeared in Dr Who.  Even now we are seeing pictures of a 10 year old rather than a photo of what this monster looks like now. 

 

So all those jailed for spreading "misinformation" (which wasn't misinformation at all) about his motives have now been proven correct and I have little doubt that both the police and Starmer knew it within the first hours/days afterwards.  Would there have been civil unrest in the following days if the police and Starmer had been transparent from the beginning and promised to address the very real threat of Islamic terror rather than the imaginary threat of the "far right"?  

[JonnyF]

I thought he was supposed to be a Christian?

 

Oh I see, just more misinformation by the authorities. 

 

Interesting they keep using a picture of him as a schoolboy. I wonder if they'll be using "first day at school" pictures of the murderer next time someone slaughters innocent children? 

 

If the government want to tackle mis-information I suggest they start with themselves. No wonder nobody believes or respects them. 

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, James105 said:

Of course it was an Islamic attack on those little girls, literally no-one with a brain cell is surprised in the slightest. The PR team for this monster deserve an award for making him out to be an innocent christian schoolboy from wales who once appeared in Dr Who.  Even now we are seeing pictures of a 10 year old rather than a photo of what this monster looks like now. 

 

So all those jailed for spreading "misinformation" (which wasn't misinformation at all) about his motives have now been proven correct and I have little doubt that both the police and Starmer knew it within the first hours/days afterwards.  Would there have been civil unrest in the following days if the police and Starmer had been transparent from the beginning and promised to address the very real threat of Islamic terror rather than the imaginary threat of the "far right"?  

Who was jailed for spreading misinformation?

 

 

[Bday Prang]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I thought he was supposed to be a Christian?

Well he obviously identifies as a muzzer.  Apparently that's all it takes these days you are what you "identify as"  and everybody else has to respect that

Unless one self  identifies as a patriot or concerned citizen.  That decision can never be respected, and those doing so can expect to be labelled as "far right"   whatever that means nowadays

[James105]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Who was jailed for spreading misinformation?

 

 

 

You are guilty of misinformation.   Here is an example from one of your 108 posts on this topic.

 

 

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

Any suggestion of a cover-up will permanently damage public trust in whether we’re being told the truth about crime in our country.”

Really ?    Public trust in either the police , the media , or the government  was destroyed a long time ago.

And regarding incidents like this or any where muzzers are involved, the public are NEVER told the truth

[Bday Prang]

Is there a reason why the media insist on publishing photos of this animal when he was an innocent looking 10 year old ? ( along with a children in need logo for good measure)  If there are no current photos of him just show the artists impression of the savage  from the court for gods sake.

[brewsterbudgen]

9 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

You are guilty of misinformation.   Here is an example from one of your 108 posts on this topic.

 

 

 

I don't think @Chomper Higgot was jailed.  Some were, and rightly so, for blaming asylum seekers and trying to burn down the hotels where they were being accommodated.

[Bday Prang]

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Who was jailed for spreading misinformation?

I don't know, but most right minded people would consider it i a minor detail compared to this recent revelation.  

 Of course you wouldn't be trying to deflect by any chance would you?  After all you appear , predictably, to have little to say about this significant  breaking news.   We all suspected some sort of islamic connection from the start, and , surprise surprise , we were all absolutely correct.  All of us except you that is

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

You are guilty of misinformation.   Here is an example from one of your 108 posts on this topic.

 

 

How is that misinformation?

 

It’s a question that was consistent with the available information at the time of asking.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I don't know, but most right minded people would consider it i a minor detail compared to this recent revelation.  

 Of course you wouldn't be trying to deflect by any chance would you?  After all you appear , predictably, to have little to say about this significant  breaking news.   We all suspected some sort of islamic connection from the start, and , surprise surprise , we were all absolutely correct.  All of us except you that is

It’s nevertheless an example of misinformation.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Well he obviously identifies as a muzzer.  Apparently that's all it takes these days you are what you "identify as"  and everybody else has to respect that

Unless one self  identifies as a patriot or concerned citizen.  That decision can never be respected, and those doing so can expect to be labelled as "far right"   whatever that means nowadays

 
It seems all it takes these days is for you to assert an identity.

 

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

He further called on Keir Starmer to clarify his awareness and knowledge of the incident, stating, “Keir Starmer must urgently explain to the country what he knew about the Southport attack and when he learned it.”

 

If he deliberately lied about this, he has to resign. 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s nevertheless an example of misinformation.

 

 

 

So was your post that James quoted above. 

 

How do you get things wrong so consistently?

 

It's almost like it's deliberate 😆

[JonnyF]

19 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Is there a reason why the media insist on publishing photos of this animal when he was an innocent looking 10 year old ? ( along with a children in need logo for good measure)  If there are no current photos of him just show the artists impression of the savage  from the court for gods sake.

 

It's really disturbing that they do this. It's trying to manipulate the audience. 

 

They'll be using those Instagram filters with the clouds and love hearts next. 

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s nevertheless an example of misinformation.

 

 

       ok agreed, but, knowing what we know now,  what, in your considered opinion, the death of those poor kids an example of?   

       Might it possibly be another  very clear example of the potential dangers posed to society by  the religion of peace ?

        A far as I am concerned Islam should be banned in western non muslim countries,  as they say , if it saves just one childs life it would be worth it ,   I can't think of any particular negatives regarding a ban , can you?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

So was your post that James quoted above. 

 

How do you get things wrong so consistently?

 

It's almost like it's deliberate 😆

No my post that James quoted was not misinformation, at the time I posted it was correct.

 

Right now the connection to Islamic terrorism is possession of terrorist material from an Islamist terrorist group.

 

No motivation has been given.

 

So let’s stick with the information we have.

 

 

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

They'll be using those Instagram filters with the clouds and love hearts next.

along with the usual claims about his mental health and how he was allegedly abused, He will become the "real victim"

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No my post that James quoted was not misinformation, at the time I posted it was correct.

 

No it was not correct.

 

You simply reposted/spread someone else's lies. 

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Right now the connection to Islamic terrorism is possession of terrorist material from an Islamist terrorist group.

 

No motivation has been given.

Is possession of that sort of material itself not sufficient evidence of motivation?   Seems pretty clear to me. 

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Yes, and I remember some here supporting him as not being a terrorist. ...

So yes, it would seem his background, where his genes came from, were involved..🤔

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/southport-stabbing-axel-rudakubana-court-terror-155414499.html

Nah, more likely the environment he was raised in.

I doubt if it were in his genes.

[MalcolmB]

Just now, Bday Prang said:

Is possession of that sort of material itself not sufficient evidence of motivation?   Seems pretty clear to me. 

A bit of a stretch.

Like finding a playboy magazine and using it to blame a rapist.

Or video games on killers.

 

Kid was a nutter, a sandwich short of a picnic. 

Or as the Thais say Mai Dtem Baht, ไม่เต็มบาท , not the full quid.
 

[Bday Prang]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So let’s stick with the information we have.

indeed, and can we please stop with the irrelevant  claims of misinformation.   Its clear enough , with the information we now  have, what the whole incident was due to, and it was nothing to to with the perpetrators christian values.   Or am I wrong again?  

Some may have initially jumped the gun regarding this, but have now been proved to be correct,  the same cannot be said for those who refused to accept the obvious possibility initially

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

A bit of a stretch.

Like finding a playboy magazine and using it to blame a rapist.

Or video games on killers.

 

Not really.

 

More like finding white supremacist/Nazi killing manuals in the room of a murdering Nazi/white supremacist.

 

But no doubt you'd apply the same logic in that case and say that was a pure coincidence. 😆

[Bday Prang]

9 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Nah, more likely the environment he was raised in.

that would be the wild and godless areas commonly known as Southport and South Wales. ?  Renowned hotspots of islamic extremism 

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

the same cannot be said for those who refused to accept the obvious possibility initially

 

Gaslighters gonna gaslight.

 

This poster has form and has been proved wrong yet again.

[JonnyF]

Just now, Bday Prang said:

that would be the wild and godless areas commonly known as Southport and South Wales. ?  Renowned hotspots of islamic extremism 

 

Lots of Muslims, many fanatical have been imported to all parts of the UK. Every town has to take it's share. Rayner promised us. I'm sure she won't let us down. 

 

I suspect this individual was radicalized by them. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/26/labour-every-uk-borough-must-take-fair-share-migrants/

 

[Bday Prang]

8 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

A bit of a stretch.

Like finding a playboy magazine and using it to blame a rapist.

Or video games on killers.

 

Kid was a nutter, a sandwich short of a picnic. 

Or as the Thais say Mai Dtem Baht, ไม่เต็มบาท , not the full quid.
 

Well most pedos are found to have "images" on their computers and the fact is always considered relevant, is it not?   The kids that killed James Bulger and their social worker apologists did their best to blame a Video for what they did.  do you not remember that?

Why do him the favour of describing him as a nutter,  lets just leave it as an evil child murdering savage, as there will be less chance of leniency for him

 

I think the Thai phrase you are referring to is   "Mai dtem roy"   I have never heard your version