Trump is back! He has won.

[NickyLouie]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

I agree that the country needed change and it is quite obvious that the Democratic party is broken. The big question is Trump the change that we needed?

Is Trump the man that he says he is?

Is Trump the man that his supporters think he is?

Is Trump sincere about the well-being of the nation and its people?

Will Trump put the well-being of the nation above himself?

Will he destroy alliances and will he coddle dictators?

Will he golf less than 150 times a year on the nation's dime? 

 

All that remains to be seen. 

 

 

[transam]

Just now, IC2000 said:

 

Like I said you don't read much. That link appears to be no less than one and very possibly nearly two years old

 

Clueless

 

All charges will be dismissed you wait for it

You are also an insider, wow, a new bloke too, we are so lucky, eh....................

[transam]

1 minute ago, NickyLouie said:

 

 

I bet you printed that off, a secret crush, rascal..............😘

[Mister Fixit]

21 hours ago, JAS21 said:

I bet the outside world thinks that the US is more than half full with those that are short of a full set 

Rest of the world here - we've known that for decades.  Trump is just the culmination of what we already knew.

[IC2000]

26 minutes ago, transam said:

Eeeeeeer, no loss to me, I am not American, but it seems the points I have put forward over the weeks has struck a nerve with a few of you.

 

Thrashing, don't think so, not when Trumpettes say Trump doesn't lie, which the World knows is a fact that he did tell lies.

 

Now perhaps it is you that should forget about being cornered at times and move on, eh.......

 

You've made bullet points but you haven't scored any point you're just another distant observer of the American political process. Your opinion is unnecessary and has been proven time and time again wrong by the forum and now by 70 million American voters.

 

The latter is proof enough to show you how off base your opinions are.

[Celsius]

20 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Hatred, bigotry, racism and misogynism have won.

 

.

 

 

[madone]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I agree that the country needed change and it is quite obvious that the Democratic party is broken. The big question is Trump the change that we needed?

 

Trump was emphatically not the change the country needed, but he is a galring indicator of how badly the Dems have <deleted> up.

I reckon if the democrats put aside their far-left agenda and brought things back towards the middle, this would not have happened. 

i used to consider myself a liberal, now I just look at both sides and shake my head. 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, IC2000 said:

 

You've made bullet points but you haven't scored any point you're just another distant observer of the American political process. Your opinion is unnecessary and has been proven time and time again wrong by the forum and now by 70 million American voters.

 

The latter is proof enough to show you how off base your opinions are.

And what does your opinion do on here to help either contestant, absolutely......NOTHING..

Get a grip man, this is a THAILAND forum................

[Lacessit]

22 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

I read Black Like Me years ago in my mid or late 20's.  

 

Yes, racism exists, among all ethnicities, not just among those that are identified as Caucasian.   Those that claim a particular ethnicity cannot be racist, are lying!

 

I have lived among racists.   Some were hard core racists, like the klan members in Louisiana, in my childhood.  Some were more subtle in their words, but still recognizable as racists.   As a child I learned what a racist is, by their words and deeds. 

 

There are those in the democrat party and their supporters,  that will call people who are descended from those that were brought to America from the African continent, uncle tom's, house n....., etc, when those blacks identify with being conservative.   

 

There are the blacks themselves that use that obscenity, n....., against those of any ethnicity.  They do it with malicious intent!

 

Offspring of black and Caucasian unions were in Louisiana when I was a child in the 1950's and 1960's.  Some with black fathers and some with black mothers.  It's not something that I have become aware of only recently.  Why would I find it interesting?

 

I have seen people that claim to be black and their skin has less melanin than my grandkids!!   

 

My mockery, as you call it, is based in truth.   Except for the Mini Mouse and Daisy Duck.   I through that in as a joke.   I have told it several times today.   I didn't write them in as pres. and v.p. when I voted. 

 

 

I was unaware you had extensive experience in the cultural and historical milieu.

 

It works in reverse in Australia, there are significant financial advantages for those claiming Aboriginal ancestry.

 

Thank you for responding courteously, which is more than I can say for some posters on this thread.

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, IC2000 said:

 

Like I said you don't read much. That link appears to be no less than one and very possibly nearly two years old

 

Clueless

 

All charges will be dismissed you wait for it

As I understand it, only the federal charges are actually being dropped, but it is not yet final. 

 

The NY $500M overstating the value of his property is in the process of being overturned on appeal, and will be. 

 

Fanni Willis will get removed from the GA case, and it likely gets dropped. 

 

E. Jean Carroll sex will likely stand, but defamation gets overturned. 

 

Trump will get sentenced this month for the bookkeeping, and that’s a crapshoot.

[mogandave]

9 minutes ago, Mister Fixit said:

Rest of the world here - we've known that for decades.  Trump is just the culmination of what we already knew.

Dude speaks for the rest of the world. 

 

O betting you’re a leftist, yes?

[IC2000]

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Trump will get sentenced this month for the bookkeeping, and that’s a crapshoot

 

Thanks for the blow by blow. 

 

I've read several articles this morning stating that merchan must toss the case if he knows what's good for him. As the case is actually over it's going to do a bit of undoing to be sure. But the legal opinion was if he knew it was good for him he would do that undoing

 

Shall we call it being unburdened by what has been?

Edited 3 hours ago by IC2000

[mogandave]

8 minutes ago, madone said:

 

Trump was emphatically not the change the country needed, but he is a galring indicator of how badly the Dems have <deleted> up.

I reckon if the democrats put aside their far-left agenda and brought things back towards the middle, this would not have happened. 

i used to consider myself a liberal, now I just look at both sides and shake my head. 

You are mostly correct, but the country would have just moved further left under Harris, and it might not under Trump. 

 

Do not confuse liberals with leftists. 

 

I’m a liberal. 

 

 

[Lacessit]

49 minutes ago, IC2000 said:

 

Those charges are quickly being looked at and very well might be dropped by the end of the week. Merchan is in a very serious situation if he sentences Trump he very well might be looking at being disbarred. I think he's probably looking to declare a mistrial based on this that or the other thing.

 

Really don't read much news do you?

In other words, the fix is in because Trump won. Had he lost, different story.

 

Trump was convicted by a jury of his peers. There is nothing in the trial which says Merchan conducted himself inappropriately, except in the fevered imagination of Trump supporters.

 

You may be right, Merchan may be disbarred. However, that will only be because Trump will exercise presidential power to be vindictive.

 

The usual cheap shot at the end of your post, when will you guys grow up?

[BigStar]

52 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Are you still hanging around here after a severe thrashing? The election is over - Accept the loss - move on.

 

But trolls gotta troll. That's it.

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, IC2000 said:

 

Thanks for the blow by blow. 

 

I've read several articles this morning stating that merchan must toss the case if he knows what's good for him. As the case is actually over it's going to do a bit of undoing to be sure. But the legal opinion was if he knew it was good for him he would do that undoing

 

Shall we call it being unburdened by what has been?

He has nothing to lose sentencing Trump to five years. Trump goes to jail waiving, and in a week it’s overturned by the NY appellate court. He’ll be a hero to the left and daughter got rich off the phony case. 

 

Trump is not going after anyone. He didn’t last time, and he won’t this time. 

 

He might go after some of the J6 perjurers.

 

 

[thesetat2013]

27 minutes ago, IC2000 said:

 

Like I said you don't read much. That link appears to be no less than one and very possibly nearly two years old

 

Clueless

 

All charges will be dismissed you wait for it

They have already said.. The cases against him will be dropped because they do not want such scandals as taking the President of the US to court for these things.  

[radiochaser]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I was unaware you had extensive experience in the cultural and historical milieu.

 

It works in reverse in Australia, there are significant financial advantages for those claiming Aboriginal ancestry.

 

Thank you for responding courteously, which is more than I can say for some posters on this thread.

You are welcome.   You can check my posts on my profile page (or whatever it's called).   I would not say that I am always courteous, but when someone calls me names or bullies me, I won't back down from the attack.   I think at most I might make a sarcastic that may border on being snide.   But no outright denigrating to or about people.    

 

I don't know that my experience is in cultural or historical milieu is extensive, but it is more than what some have had.   My dad was in the U.S. Army so there was the benefit of travel and exposure to different cultures and countries.   I have also had employment that has required that I associate with people such as (what I call) the little old man or woman down the street, up to having to work with Secret Service personnel protecting presidents.    

 

Here in the U.S. of A. there has been, for several years, some advantages to being a minority.  I could take advantage of that by making a claim based on Cherokee Indian (oh wait, I mean Native American) ancestry, but I guess I am too lazy.   Besides, I seem to have been able to get by on my own.  

[thesetat2013]

19 hours ago, pattayasan said:

 

Trump - billionaire

Vance - millionaire

Musk - billionaire

 

Have fun guys.

 

 

At least those names know about how to manage things and spend money in the right places. Also, where to get more money and reduce costs for things.. Kamala knew NOTHING.  

[thesetat2013]

13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

In other words, the fix is in because Trump won. Had he lost, different story.

 

Trump was convicted by a jury of his peers. There is nothing in the trial which says Merchan conducted himself inappropriately, except in the fevered imagination of Trump supporters.

 

You may be right, Merchan may be disbarred. However, that will only be because Trump will exercise presidential power to be vindictive.

 

The usual cheap shot at the end of your post, when will you guys grow up?

Sounds like you are throwing a cheap shot also...

[No Forwarding Address]

22 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not surprised.  Harris was an uninspiring candidate.  

 

I wonder if Don Jr will stand in 2028? 

There is talk of him joining the Administration - maybe VP in 2028...........

[mogandave]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

In other words, the fix is in because Trump won. Had he lost, different story.

There is no “fix is in”. Trump has no power until January. If they could convict him of insurrection, he would be barred from taking office. They can’t. Had he lost the election, all of the federal charges would have run their course and dissolved. Had Harris won, she likely would have called them off. No upside, much downside.

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 

Trump was convicted by a jury of his peers. There is nothing in the trial which says Merchan conducted himself inappropriately, except in the fevered imagination of Trump supporters.

There is plenty of Merchan acting in appropriately.

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 

You may be right, Merchan may be disbarred. However, that will only be because Trump will exercise presidential power to be vindictive.

Trump has no power to disbar a NY judge. You are delusional.

 

I just googled “hypocrite, definition”, and this popped up:

 

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The usual cheap shot at the end of your post, when will you guys grow up?

 

[impulse]

35 minutes ago, mogandave said:

As I understand it, only the federal charges are actually being dropped, but it is not yet final. 

 

The NY $500M overstating the value of his property is in the process of being overturned on appeal, and will be. 

 

Fanni Willis will get removed from the GA case, and it likely gets dropped. 

 

E. Jean Carroll sex will likely stand, but defamation gets overturned. 

 

Trump will get sentenced this month for the bookkeeping, and that’s a crapshoot.

 

All of those cases and settlements are going to be massively changed on appeal.  But that won't happen (obviously) until after the election.  The goal was to hurt Trump's election chances.  They failed.   Enough of the voters saw through the lawfare.

 

[Lacessit]

12 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Sounds like you are throwing a cheap shot also...

I try to be courteous on ASEAN.

 

Some posters make the effort as difficult as they can.

 

Try looking up the translation of the Latin phrase " Nemo me impune lacessit".

 

It's also the national motto of Scotland, I have ancestors there.

[transam]

21 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

At least those names know about how to manage things and spend money in the right places. Also, where to get more money and reduce costs for things.. Kamala knew NOTHING.  

Because she is not a crook, but, are you telling me she has no cash from the loooooong list of jobs, with no court appearances included.................😂

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I try to be courteous on ASEAN.

 

Some posters make the effort as difficult as they can.

 

Try looking up the translation of the Latin phrase " Nemo me impune lacessit".

 

It's also the national motto of Scotland, I have ancestors there.

 

  So your Scottish ancestors stole Aboriginal land ?

But, we can save that for the next Israel thread and suggestions of giving land back 🙂

[Lacessit]

18 minutes ago, mogandave said:

There is no “fix is in”. Trump has no power until January. If they could convict him of insurrection, he would be barred from taking office. They can’t. Had he lost the election, all of the federal charges would have run their course and dissolved. Had Harris won, she likely would have called them off. No upside, much downside.

There is plenty of Merchan acting in appropriately.

Trump has no power to disbar a NY judge. You are delusional.

 

I just googled “hypocrite, definition”, and this popped up:

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, mogandave said:

There is no “fix is in”. Trump has no power until January. If they could convict him of insurrection, he would be barred from taking office. They can’t. Had he lost the election, all of the federal charges would have run their course and dissolved. Had Harris won, she likely would have called them off. No upside, much downside.

There is plenty of Merchan acting in appropriately.

Trump has no power to disbar a NY judge. You are delusional.

 

I just googled “hypocrite, definition”, and this popped up:

 

 

I give it 1-2 years before the swing voters realize they have been conned yet again by someone who is throwing them under the bus, now they have served their purpose. Tax cuts and tariff wars guarantee it.

 

The lawfare delusion is well entrenched in Trump supporters, no point in arguing with people who have that as an article of faith.

 

Bye now.

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

 

I give it 1-2 years before the swing voters realize they have been conned yet again by someone who is throwing them under the bus, now they have served their purpose. Tax cuts and tariff wars guarantee it.

 

The lawfare delusion is well entrenched in Trump supporters, no point in arguing with people who have that as an article of faith.

 

Bye now.

weak

[MalcolmB]

58 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It works in reverse in Australia, there are significant financial advantages for those claiming Aboriginal ancestry.

All the billionaires and the kids at the elite private schools are Aboriginal?

[transam]

Just now, mogandave said:

weak

No, you've been Tango'd............🤗