Trump Declares Victory and Promises a "Golden Age" for America

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[BigStar]

19 hours ago, pattayasan said:

While it is true that Harris didn't articulate policies, Trump didn't either.

 

Trump certainly did. Listening to the fake news, you merely didn't hear them. They're in the Republican Party platform, and Trump referenced them throughout his speeches and interviews.

 

19 hours ago, pattayasan said:

His one message was immigrants

 

No, that was only one of his messages.

 

19 hours ago, pattayasan said:

The left weren't prepared to campaign on the politics of division and so lost.

 

Wrong as usual. They very much campaigned on politics of division, Obama shaming black men, for example. Slicing and dicing the public into various groups and pandering to them and offering them privileged "protection"  has been the Dems' Marxist modus operandi for quite a long time.

 

You just clueless, man. No hindrance to posting here, of course. A proud advantage, rather. 😉 

 

Edited November 7 by BigStar

[BigStar]

18 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I just saw something on CNN that makes me feel a little better. It seems the most significant status of people who show up in how they vote is education.

 

Yes, a good thing, as the less educated people are most likely to have retained common sense, very much in Trump's favor. But plenty of educated voters vote for Trump as well. More educated than you are, I might add. Mere posturing as more educated, more intelligent, and more virtuous is a liberal trademark. Unfortunately, it inevitably results in bad polices and a national mess.

 

19 hours ago, WDSmart said:

So, again, I am in a minority group of those with a college degree. 

🤡 Not something to be proud of these days, unfortunately. Socialist indoctrination in the schools has partly led us into this mess. We might even say it's ultimately responsible for the need for your nemesis, Trump. Were you the member who not long ago admitted to having been a teacher, so churning out hundreds, maybe thousands, of little Marxists over the course of your miserable career? 

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

Keys are honesty, empathy and listening. Without intellectual honesty, empathy and listening, any political initiative is ineffective at best, or bound for disaster at worst.

That is very applicable to Harris.

[mikeymike100]

18 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

Oh?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/trump-muslim-ban-gaza-refugees

Yes, the Guardian is a left wing newspaper and loves spreading disinformation.

But even they say it just means 'extra screening' for people from certain countries, not a 'BAN', the only BAN is for terrorists, which obviously is a good thing!

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

17 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Yes, the Guardian is a left wing newspaper and loves spreading disinformation.

But even they say it just means 'extra screening' for people from certain countries, not a 'BAN', the only BAN is for terrorists, which obviously is a good thing!

 

"Speaking to supporters in Iowa, the former president said that if he returns to the Oval Office, he will immediately begin “ideological screening” for all immigrants and bar those who sympathize with Hamas and Muslim extremists."

 

So the thought police, then.

 

And Trump did indeed call for a total ban on Muslims entering the US. He was not able to accomplish this and the result was Executive Order 1379 and subsequent ones.

Edited November 8 by Etaoin Shrdlu

[Bday Prang]

23 hours ago, Dcheech said:

These poor runts that elected him, have no idea how bad he is going to eff them, and the US, over. BTW, some days it is not bad thing, being old.

So everybody who voted for him is a "poor runt"?  70+ million of them?   As opposed to the "enlightened minority" who voted for loser Harris 

[illisdean]

In case you missed it, here are some various news reports on Trump and his LANDSLIDE election victory. Enjoy.

 

 

[illisdean]

The "Golden Age" would not be complete without Trumps 10 point plan for the complete take down and dismantling of the deep state and their diabolical members. Trump knows now who is who in the deep state and their days are numbered.

 

 

[illisdean]

Is this Trumps "3rd Term"?

LOL

 

 

[illisdean]

Nobody except a leader, icon, patriot. HERO, greatest POTUS of your lifetime, etc could overcome what Trump did in winning 2024 election in a landslide. The house and senate is his now. America is back now, where it needs to be.

BTW, Trump said on stage a week ago he had a "surprise announcement" to share after the election. He plans to release crossfire hurricane as he already mentioned and now he could possibly announce his plan to release the Epstein files. Watch all the cock-roaches scurry when that happens. EPIC. After Nov 12, when judge Merchan drops, throws out Trumps bogus hoax conviction, you can drop your orgiastic fantasy fascination with the term felon.  LOL.....too funny. Fulton Fanno RICO hoax is circling the drain too and will become a floating turd soon and both fed cases, doc case dismissed already and the J6 insurrection and KKK act violation are all getting tossed to the round file. LOL 

From this point forward please refer to President Trump as Mr. President Trump.

 

watch this:

 

 

Edited November 8 by illisdean

[WDSmart]

11 hours ago, BigStar said:

 

Yes, a good thing, as the less educated people are most likely to have retained common sense, very much in Trump's favor. But plenty of educated voters vote for Trump as well. More educated than you are, I might add. Mere posturing as more educated, more intelligent, and more virtuous is a liberal trademark. Unfortunately, it inevitably results in bad polices and a national mess.

 

🤡 Not something to be proud of these days, unfortunately. Socialist indoctrination in the schools has partly led us into this mess. We might even say it's ultimately responsible for the need for your nemesis, Trump. Were you the member who not long ago admitted to having been a teacher, so churning out hundreds, maybe thousands, of little Marxists over the course of your miserable career? 

 

 

 

Well, we all will just have to wait and see what happens over the next four years. I predict Trump's presidency will end up as utter chaos and a disaster for the USA. 😞 

[darbie-foos]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Well, we all will just have to wait and see what happens over the next four years. I predict Trump's presidency will end up as utter chaos and a disaster for the USA. 😞 

anything trump does now will be an improvement over the Biden Harris 4 year demolish America program. Hamas and putin want peace now post trump humongous election victory.

[WDSmart]

12 hours ago, darbie-foos said:

anything trump does now will be an improvement over the Biden Harris 4 year demolish America program. Hamas and putin want peace now post trump humongous election victory.

I disagree with your description of the Biden presidency. A "Demolish America" program sounds more like what the next four years will be like, but we'll all have to wait and see how that plays out.  Israel and Putin want total victory, not peace. Trump's election victory, which I acknowledge, was not "humongous." It was 50.5% for Trump and 47.8% for Harris. I wouldn't refer to 2.7% as "humongous."

[BigStar]

18 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I predict Trump's presidency will end up as utter chaos and a disaster for the USA. 😞 

 

LOL. Like last time, when things were so much better? 'Course, Trump's got a much tougher job now that our posturing educated, highly intelligent, and virtuous morons have run up the national debt to absurd levels. Now, some economic pain, to be loudly denounced by our elites, may need inflicting a la Reagan and Volker.

 

76% of U.S. Income Taxes Go Toward Servicing Our Debt

 

Perhaps Milei will have some experience to share as he returns Argentina to the real world.

 

Argentina's Milei to meet with Trump, Musk next week in the US

 

Well, ANF Poster predictions have always been excellent inverse indicators. You can make good money by simply buying shares whenever one of our ace Economists makes a doom prediction. When our Tunnel Construction engineers predicted the Tunnel would flood, it meant that it absolutely would never flood. And during the last year we've listened to our smug educated, highly intelligent, virtuous, elite ANF Political Analysts, the crème de la crème, assuring the peasants that Trump would never win.🤣

 

I could multiply examples further. It's all quite amusing.

 

So, thanks to you, we may now rest assured that Trump's presidency will end up with the USA and the world in much better shape and Vance will ensure MAGA policies continue into the eight years following. You done good in spite of yourself.

Edited November 9 by BigStar

[WDSmart]

16 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

LOL. Like last time, when things were so much better? 'Course, Trump's got a much tougher job now that our posturing educated, highly intelligent, and virtuous morons have run up the national debt to absurd levels. Now, some economic pain, to be loudly denounced by our elites, may need inflicting a la Reagan and Volker.

 

76% of U.S. Income Taxes Go Toward Servicing Our Debt

 

Perhaps Milei will have some experience to share as he returns Argentina to the real world.

 

Argentina's Milei to meet with Trump, Musk next week in the US

 

Well, ANF Poster predictions have always been excellent inverse indicators. You can make good money by simply buying shares whenever one of our ace Economists makes a doom prediction. When our Tunnel Construction engineers predicted the Tunnel would flood, it meant that it absolutely would never flood. And during the last year we've listened to our smug educated, highly intelligent, virtuous, elite ANF Political Analysts, the crème de la crème, assuring the peasants that Trump would never win.🤣

 

It's all quite amusing.

 

So, thanks to you, we may now rest assured that Trump's presidency will end up with the USA and the world in much better shape and Vance will ensure MAGA policies continue into the eight years following. You done good in spite of yourself.

Well, Trump won the election, and now we'll just have to wait and see what kind of job he does on economic and social issues. As I said earlier, I expect the worst case in both.  I hope I'm wrong,

[BigStar]

20 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Well, Trump won the election, and now we'll just have to wait and see what kind of job he does on economic and social issues. As I said earlier, I expect the worst case in both

 

Yes, you did, and as I explained earlier, your expectation means the best case in both.🤡 So that was reassuring. As with most self-defeating liberals from their superior vantage points, we may anticipate your disparagements and cavils about Trump to continue throughout his term. An ANF Poster's Prophecy never, ever expires.

Edited November 9 by BigStar

[WDSmart]

7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Yes, you did, and as I explained earlier, your expectation means the best case in both.🤡 So that was reassuring. As with most self-defeating liberals from their superior vantage points, we may anticipate your disparagements and cavils about Trump to continue throughout his term. An ANF Poster's Prediction never, ever expires. Yawn. 

I can't see how my prediction of a complete (or even partial) collapse of the US government could be best in any case.

I am a liberal, a far-far-left liberal. I do think Trump's presidency will be a disaster for the USA and many other nations, too. I will continue to be a far-left liberal, even if the voters in the US don't like liberal policies. I don't think a political party should only stand for what they think the majority of voters like. They should stand up for the issues and policies they think are best for the country. That didn't work this election, but I hope the Democrats don't change their agenda too much just to appeal to the voters. I hope they stick to their ideas about how to govern and try to educate and convince the public on why their policies would be better for the country than those of the conservatives, especially Trump supporters.

I looked up "ANF" on the Internet and couldn't find an interpretation of it that I thought you meant. So I ask you, what does "ANF" mean in your sentence above? 

[BigStar]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I can't see how my prediction of a complete (or even partial) collapse of the US government could be best in any case.

 

As explained, because of the statistically accurate ANF Poster Inverse Indicator and Boomerang principles. What you predict means the opposite will happen. Hence, you've predicted Trump's success in reversing the Biden/Harris failures and ensuring a better USA and world. Good; please don't try to snatch defeat from victory. Pay attention.

 

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

am a liberal, a far-far-left liberal. I do think Trump's presidency will be a disaster for the USA and many other nations, too. I

 

Funny how self-defeatism is a point of pride among liberals. Part of the education, high intelligence, and superior moral virtue. Or maybe it's owing the delusion from swallowing all the regime's propaganda. 

 

But we've seen what a mess liberal leadership has led to after Trump's first, successful term, and how accurate your predictions have proven. The people have decided they don't want to pay the price for move that liberal nonsense, Hence, Trump.

 

You may take comfort in the agreement of the ladies of The View. The highly intelligent AOC came out with this yesterday:

 

“This is going to be a very, very, very, challenging difficult time," she said. "This is going to be a very scary time."

 

Oh, very. :)

 

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

They should stand up for the issues and policies they think are best for the country.

 

For the Dems, those are merely the issues and policies they think are best for their donors and vote-buying. You don't understand modern liberalism in the least. Comes of reading the fake news. Now Bernie was always pretty consistent, which is why he got pushed aside originally for Biden.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I hope they stick to their ideas about how to govern and try to educate and convince the public on why their policies would be better for the country than those of the conservatives, especially Trump supporters.

 

They already did their best, controlling the media, censoring, persecuting and jailing political opponents, indoctrinating the students, implicitly condoning riots and looting by their militant arms, running through a billion in campaign financing in a few months. They lied like dogs and demonized and sliced and diced.

 

The problem was their policies weren't "better" but much worse, as the "elites" are incompetent wasters of blood and treasure. All the lies and propaganda couldn't fool people with the Emperor's New Clothes.

 

 

Rich elites don't have to pay the price for those failed policies, but the rest of the country does. Enough is enough.

 

Leftism is a kind of religion, however. No point in discussion, just as with the Taliban or Hamas. Power is really all leftists understand--as they demonstrated quite well in the last election campaign.

 

Owing to your college degree you of course know of Yuri Bezmenov, who describes the program of Marxist ideological subversion you're under.

 

A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.  The facts tell nothing to him. . . .  Even if I shower him with information with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camps, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom.  When a military boot crashes into his balls, then he will understand, but not before.
     --A Long List of Leftist Lies

 

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I looked up "ANF" on the Internet and couldn't find an interpretation of it that I thought you meant. So I ask you, what does "ANF" mean in your sentence above? 

 

Ironic and amusing, given your pretensions and elitism. This is why we need to get leftists out of the educational system and start teaching the 3Rs again. Did you know that the voucher system is quite popular in Hispanic districts? Never mind. Let's see if we can use ratiocination to figure this out.

 

"ANF Poster" hmmm. Was ist das? "Poster." Pontificating about economic collapses and Tunnel floods. Posting pontifications . . . where? Where am I? Must the Aseannow Forum. Oh. How would I get ANF from that name? Left an exercise for the reader. Sharpen your pencils.

 

Edited November 9 by BigStar

[John Drake]

How much can Trump really do? How much do we really want him to do? In his last term, he only managed a couple of legislative acts of any note. Tax cuts for billionaires, for example. Most of his headlines came with Executive Orders, which were immediately challenged, delayed, and often overturned in court. Then, the bureaucracy stymied him. Trump is a man who desperately wants and needs approval. He craves for people to love him. So I don't expect any consistency from his new term in office. I have real fears that:

 

1) Trump will try to play the second coming of Nixon and go cave in to China, so he can do more posing as Mr. Peace.

 

2) He'll not only fail to bring down inflation, he'll feed it, with money printing and oil will go up, because "drill, baby, drill" is a stupid slogan and things are pretty much maxed out already. Plus producing energy is no different from anything else, as inflation goes up so do the costs of energy production. 

 

3) He'll go scorched earth on green energy technologies and environmental damage. You don't need to buy into the Green Cult to realize that life is better for everyone if you have clean air, pollution free water, and uncontaminated land. Realize that some things are a boondoggle, such as windmills, who pollute more than they help, and non-targeted solar, which should be regulated to be hail resistant and sturdy enough to survive high winds. But the right sort of solar, effective alternative fuels, and a redesign of American suburbs into more self contained areas of living would be good for all.

 

4) When it comes down to it, Trump will fold on deportation. He'll allow it to be challenged in court, throw up his hands and say, "well, I tried. Next!"

 

5) (For the British) Trump will end up throwing an economic lifeline to Starmer, because Trump has an emotional need for British approval. Just wait and see.

 

6) He'll sweep most of the so-called woke stuff under the rug, because he's afraid of the Trans people, BLM, and Hollywood insulting him.

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[WDSmart]

14 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Leftism is a kind of religion, however. No point in discussion, just as with the Taliban or Hamas. Power is really all leftists understand--as they demonstrated quite well in the last election campaign.

I won't debate point-by-point with you. We could do that all day. I feel the same way about right-wingers as you do about lefties. I think this election illustrated just how much like a religion it is. Leftists, like me, don't want power. They just want everyone to share in the assets of our country, The voting public rejected (or didn't understand) that, but only by a 51/47 split in the general election voting.

I won't change, and I hope there will be future candidates who share my values and aspirations. Until then, I'll just have to watch all that unfolds in the USA on my TV from my home in the jungle-filled mountains of northeastern Thailand. 

[illisdean]

"Biggest comeback in American political history."

See what Trump had to fight along his way to this monumental achievement becoming 47th POTUS. This will go unrivaled forever.

 

 

[IC2000]

On 11/6/2024 at 8:28 PM, John Drake said:

How many will Trump actually deport? How many will he be able to deport, after the Democrats go to working the courts?

 

What will he do on China? Will he really bring back American industry (if so don't try and reverse the Chips Act) to the US? Or will he end up letting Asian countries slap America around? Need more stick in Asia and a lot fewer carrots. 

 

Will he make the Germans pay their fair share on defense?

 

What if there is a state act of terrorism from Russia, Iran, North Korea, or China? Will he confront the aggressor and order a retaliation? Or will he fear escalation?

 

 

 

I think the courts aren't going to work this time. They'll take a page out of the Biden playbook and just keep going until they are absolutely forced by an actual law to stop deportation - but they won't (like Biden). Then just carry on regardless and suffer the blowback. Mayorkas should be jailed.

 

As to the other questions we really don't know do away. But in my opinion he will handle each of those issues far more effectively there's no question about it.

 

Harris Walz the US was absolutely doomed.

 

Nobody laughing at Trump now 👑

Edited November 9 by IC2000

[IC2000]

21 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Leftists, like me, don't want power. They just want everyone to share in the assets of our country,

 

You couldn't be more incorrect

[metisdead]

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[BigStar]

45 minutes ago, John Drake said:

How much can Trump really do? How much do we really want him to do?

 

True, leftists will undermine, hoax, subvert, lie, sue, censor, foist talking points onto the mainstream media, motion to impeach, and everything they can do to obstruct. They had some real success his last term, though not as much as they had wanted.

 

What's different now is that Trump's been burned by that experience and can better work around it, as indeed he did with the campaign.

 

But the big difference is that he'll have the Senate and likely the House to pass the laws he needs. Won't need to rely so much on executive orders as time goes by. He's got convincing support from the voters. Even Walz's own district didn't vote for him. 🙂 Even so, it may take Vance's later terms to achieve satisfactorily the goals of MAGA, if they are to be achieved.

 

 

Edited November 9 by BigStar

[candide]

49 minutes ago, John Drake said:

2) He'll not only fail to bring down inflation, he'll feed it, with money printing and oil will go up, because "drill, baby, drill" is a stupid slogan and things are pretty much maxed out already. Plus producing energy is no different from anything else, as inflation goes up so do the costs of energy production. 

You can add to it that the big oil companies funding the GOP have absolutely no interest in driving prices down,  and that the OPEC will reduce production if prices go down, as they always did.

 

After puting ethical concerns apart, the main problem of Trump's program is that it is inflationist (unless he just pretends to apply it, as he did to a large extent during his first mandate).

 

1. Tariffs will result in higher prices and fuel inflation.

 

2. Mass deportation will leave many jobs unfilled and induce wage inflation, and hence price inflation

 

3. Tax cuts will stimulate demand, which will also trigger inflation.

 

I wonder how the voters, who voted Trump because they believed his fake promise to reduce inflation (which is currently already low), will react to an increase of inflation. How will they vote during the midterm elections?

[BigStar]

15 minutes ago, candide said:

You can add to it that the big oil companies funding the GOP have absolutely no interest in driving prices down,  and that the OPEC will reduce production if prices go down, as they always did.

 

After puting ethical concerns apart, the main problem of Trump's program is that it is inflationist (unless he just pretends to apply it, as he did to a large extent during his first mandate).

 

1. Tariffs will result in higher prices and fuel inflation.

 

2. Mass deportation will leave many jobs unfilled and induce wage inflation, and hence price inflation

 

3. Tax cuts will stimulate demand, which will also trigger inflation.

 

I wonder how the voters, who voted Trump because they believed his fake promise to reduce inflation (which is currently already low), will react to an increase of inflation. How will they vote during the midterm elections?

 

You got no credibility left, sorry. Having failed miserably in your election prediction, like all leftists the fallback will be to pick up demonizing again and predict coming DOOM. It's THE talking point now except for the blame going around for the election loss. Blaming anything but the reality of Biden/Harris/leftist failed policies, notably DEI that got Harris where she didn't belong in the first place. 

 

 

Edited November 9 by BigStar

[IC2000]

17 minutes ago, candide said:

You can add to it that the big oil companies funding the GOP have absolutely no interest in driving prices down,  and that the OPEC will reduce production if prices go down, as they always did.

 

After puting ethical concerns apart, the main problem of Trump's program is that it is inflationist (unless he just pretends to apply it, as he did to a large extent during his first mandate).

 

1. Tariffs will result in higher prices and fuel inflation.

 

2. Mass deportation will leave many jobs unfilled and induce wage inflation, and hence price inflation

 

3. Tax cuts will stimulate demand, which will also trigger inflation.

 

I wonder how the voters, who voted Trump because they believed his fake promise to reduce inflation (which is currently already low), will react to an increase of inflation. How will they vote during the midterm elections?

 

This analysis is so flawed I don't know where to begin.

 

1 Every ugly, "Big"  XYZ with the exception of oil backed Harris Walz. This is so disingenuous. The US still needs oil in a big way and will for decades. I'm expecting prices to drop exponentially. With a drop in oil prices the knock on is significant.

 

2 Deportation of illegal immigrants will lead to jobs unfilled. Low end jobs may need to be studied and action fast tracked but the answer isn't the past four years. Paying people more for a job well done is not a problem. The issue is productivity. You blithely assume some non English speaking immigrant from third world country a better and more productive employee. That's just wrong. Either way it's no excuse - especially for 25M illegals. Shall we add the indirect expenses as well? Of course not.

 

3 Tax cuts do not contribute to inflation. That's pure nonsense. Classic inflation is when the Fed as under Biden creates money out of thin air and congress wastes it into existence. Biden's numerous attempts to pay for constituents educational expenses or on illegal immigrant giveaways are perfect examples.

 

You're not even close

Edited November 9 by IC2000