President Joe Biden's Historical Legacy is Ruined

[NoDisplayName]

4 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

How bad does a candidate have to suck to lose every swing state?

 

Harris sucks bad?

Now THAT's news!

[placnx]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Biden never explicitly promised to be a one term president. That would have been politically idiotic to do. But it's true that he hinted at it.

You are technically correct. Here's a summary of how people, including me, thought that he would not seek a second term:

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/03/biden-campaign-democrats-pledge-one-term

[NoDisplayName]

3 hours ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

The problem was they got hijacked by the extreme wokeist lefties. I mean c'mon... tampons in men's washrooms? Are you effing kidding me??

 

That's fake news, man!

Nothing about men's washrooms.

Need to make sure little boys are properly groomed.

 

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.

 

You can read about it here:

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212

[mr336]

7 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

How bad does a candidate have to suck to lose every swing state?

And sucking was her strength.

[RichardColeman]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Joe Biden has been a reasonably successful president in many ways. Such as the infrastructure bill and managing an economic recovery without recession or depression when pretty much all economists said avoiding a recession was impossible. 

What a load of old tosh.

 

 

1. The infrastructure bill also known as the inflation reduction act made inflation BOOM !

 

2. The only reason there was no recession was due to Biden and his cronies changing the definition of recession !!

 

Hell always be remembered as a puppet president due to his health cover-up and as the first person that used lawfare to try and stop his opponents

 

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

What a load of old tosh.

 

 

1. The infrastructure bill also known as the inflation reduction act made inflation BOOM !

 

2. The only reason there was no recession was due to Biden and his cronies changing the definition of recession !!

 

Hell always be remembered as a puppet president due to his health cover-up and as the first person that used lawfare to try and stop his opponents

 

Neither of those is true.

[radiochaser]

9 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Harris fell flat on her face and picked a complete weirdo like Walz  because nobody wanted to run with her. If you think Harris was that great do you want her to try again in 2028?

I heard that she considered Pennsylvania governor shapiro, but then did not choose him because he is a Jew.   With shapiro being a Jew, it is alleged that the democrats were afraid choosing him would cause harris to lose the muslim vote, thus, she (the democrat party) chose walz.

Edited Saturday at 09:59 AM by radiochaser

[Jingthing]

59 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

I heard that she considered Pennsylvania governor shapiro, but then did not choose him because he is a Jew.   With shapiro being a Jew, it is alleged that the democrats were afraid choosing him would cause harris to lose the muslim vote, thus, she (the democrat party) chose walz.

Surely that was thought about. A problem in Michigan and overall there is a good bit of antisemitism nationally. Perhaps if Gore hadn't picked a Jew he would have won. Shapiro would have pretty much guaranteed Pennsylvania. But there were other pros and cons.

Harris and Shapiro both coastal lawyers so too similar. Harris is married to a Jew so to many Americans  that would look too Jewy. One Jew maybe but when you add a mixed race woman president plus TWO Jews, mainstream America balks. Also it was thought that Walz could help with the midwesterner regular white guy working class vote. Shapiro certainly couldn't have. Perhaps most important but hard to ever know for sure, Shapiro is very alpha male, and he met with Harris and said he wanted more of a co-presidency where he had leadership on certain issues. Harris who wanted to be the first woman president couldn't stomach that. Understandably so. Remember vice presidency is a pretty awful job. Be a yes man and be a warm body if the president exits.

 

 

Reading between the lines, I can tell you that based on media I read, American Jews weren't  angry about this. Aware of it but understanding. The number one issue for American Jews in this cycle was different than other groups. No, not Israel. Saving American democracy. If Harris had good reasons to think Walz was a better bet for winning than Shapiro, then it was a reasonable choice to make. Of course neither ticket would have won. But if Biden had stayed it would have been a REAL landslide perhaps as bad as Mondale. Trump Harris wasn't actually a landslide but it was a clear solid win. 

 

If there are future elections after maga / Project 2025 has their dark way with American democracy, definitely Shapiro will be one of the potential democratic stars. He's more of a top of the ticket guy.

Edited Saturday at 11:00 AM by Jingthing

[andersonat]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

On the Russo Ukraine war he never helped enough and soon enough for Ukraine to ever have any chance of winning. Just enough to not lose. Not good enough!

 

JBiden put together a $60 Plan for Ukraine in 2023, but Mike Johnson delayed bringing the Funding-Bill to the Floor of The House for *6 months* (because MJ was afraid that he'd lose his job if he did).

  --  Biden did what he could re. funding for Ukraine ... "Other American Politicians" chose to work against his efforts.

 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, andersonat said:

 

JBiden put together a $60 Plan for Ukraine in 2023, but Mike Johnson delayed bringing the Funding-Bill to the Floor of The House for *6 months* (because MJ was afraid that he'd lose his job if he did).

  --  Biden did what he could re. funding for Ukraine ... "Other American Politicians" chose to work against his efforts.

 

That's true. 

But if Biden had gone all in on arming Ukraine from right after they stopped the Kyiv assault and ordered no restraints on attacking military targets anywhere in Russia, Ukraine could have won the first year when Russia was most shocked that they didn't win in a week. 

There never was (still isn't) a clear and firm commitment to help Ukraine WIN. Just as weak tea long as it takes pablum. As long as it take to what? Never to WIN. 

Edited Saturday at 12:32 PM by Jingthing

[andersonat]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

That's true. 

But if Biden had gone all in on arming Ukraine from right after they stopped to Kyiv assault and ordered no restraints on attacking military targets anywhere in Russia, Ukraine could have won the first year when Russia was most shocked that they didn't win in a week. 

 

The President doesn't have *any* of the Country's Money; *Congress* has the Money. 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, andersonat said:

 

The President doesn't have *any* of the Country's Money; *Congress* has the Money. 

Any president can set leadership on foreign policy and define clear goals.

Biden NEVER did that for Ukraine as far as winning.

Look I'm a democrat and yes of course Trump and Putin are buddies and Trump did order an 8 month freeze but if Ukraine had won the first year inspired by Biden's leadership it wouldn't have even gotten there.

Strike when the iron is hot.  Biden was always caving to Putin's empty threats. 

Edited Saturday at 12:38 PM by Jingthing

[Hanaguma]

46 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's true. 

But if Biden had gone all in on arming Ukraine from right after they stopped the Kyiv assault and ordered no restraints on attacking military targets anywhere in Russia, Ukraine could have won the first year when Russia was most shocked that they didn't win in a week. 

There never was (still isn't) a clear and firm commitment to help Ukraine WIN. Just as weak tea long as it takes pablum. As long as it take to what? Never to WIN. 

Perhaps because there is no concensus on what it means for Ukraine to "win".  What does it mean to you?

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Perhaps because there is no concensus on what it means for Ukraine to "win".  What does it mean to you?

Ukraine reclaiming all occupied lands.

Russia returning stolen and brainwashed Ukrainian children.

Russia paying reparations to rebuild the cities they destroyed, etc.

Ukrainians that want to be Russian citizens invited to move to Russia.

Some kind of ironclad security guarantees so Russia never does this again.

That could be negotiated. Not necessarily EU / NATO but not a permanent ban on Ukraine joining either.

Edited Saturday at 01:26 PM by Jingthing

[black tabby12345]

On the Russo Ukraine war he never helped enough and soon enough for Ukraine to ever have any chance of winning. Just enough to not lose. Not good enough

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Looks like that is exactly what they(mostly US & UK)  intended in the first place: Not to let Ukraine win fast.

Why?

Simply to prolong the war, so as the  oil price hike caused by that conflict.

 

Don't forget these 2 countries are home to Oil Majors.

 

Their govts are acting in order to maximize their gain.

 

So using Poo-tin's empty nuke threat as an excuse 'Not to Corner Russia...'

 

As simple as that.

Edited Saturday at 02:25 PM by black tabby12345

[thaipo7]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Joe Biden has been a reasonably successful president in many ways. Such as the infrastructure bill and managing an economic recovery without recession or depression when pretty much all economists said avoiding a recession was impossible. 

 

But on the two biggest issues he has failed.

 

On the Russo Ukraine war he never helped enough and soon enough for Ukraine to ever have any chance of winning. Just enough to not lose. Not good enough!

 

On the biggest defining issue of his presidency -- saving American democracy from autocracy and being a bridge to a new generation of pro democracy leadership -- he has FAILED miserably.

 

I like Joe Biden as a human being very much. All presidents make mistakes. But these two mistakes will damn him historically.

 

Of course he should have never begun to run for a second term. Then the democrats would have gone through a normal primary process and nominated a stronger candidate.

 

Harris did an amazing job in an impossible situation. The reason she was put into that impossible situation sits firmly at the door of Joe Biden. Needless to say, the political career of Harris is now over.

Joe Biden with his 50 years of service has always been on the wrong side of history.  This is how I will remember him if I remember anything at all.

[Ultrathai]

Biden is the worst president in the history of the United States.

[connda]

Biden is a senile, old loser who should have retired 10 years ago.

[mogandave]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Biden never explicitly promised to be a one term president. That would have been politically idiotic to do. But it's true that he hinted at it.

The left should have forced him out after two years. He was too far gone

[mogandave]

27 minutes ago, Ultrathai said:

Biden is the worst president in the history of the United States.

You’re not old enough to remember Carter? 

 

Obama did the most damage.

[mogandave]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Surely that was thought about. A problem in Michigan and overall there is a good bit of antisemitism nationally. Perhaps if Gore hadn't picked a Jew he would have won. Shapiro would have pretty much guaranteed Pennsylvania. But there were other pros and cons.

Harris and Shapiro both coastal lawyers so too similar. Harris is married to a Jew so to many Americans  that would look too Jewy. One Jew maybe but when you add a mixed race woman president plus TWO Jews, mainstream America balks. Also it was thought that Walz could help with the midwesterner regular white guy working class vote. Shapiro certainly couldn't have. Perhaps most important but hard to ever know for sure, Shapiro is very alpha male, and he met with Harris and said he wanted more of a co-presidency where he had leadership on certain issues. Harris who wanted to be the first woman president couldn't stomach that. Understandably so. Remember vice presidency is a pretty awful job. Be a yes man and be a warm body if the president exits.

 

 

Reading between the lines, I can tell you that based on media I read, American Jews weren't  angry about this. Aware of it but understanding. The number one issue for American Jews in this cycle was different than other groups. No, not Israel. Saving American democracy. If Harris had good reasons to think Walz was a better bet for winning than Shapiro, then it was a reasonable choice to make. Of course neither ticket would have won. But if Biden had stayed it would have been a REAL landslide perhaps as bad as Mondale. Trump Harris wasn't actually a landslide but it was a clear solid win. 

 

If there are future elections after maga / Project 2025 has their dark way with American democracy, definitely Shapiro will be one of the potential democratic stars. He's more of a top of the ticket guy.

You still think Walz was not a terrible choice? 

 

He looked like a buffoon on stage at the convention, and he got spanked in the debate. 

 

Snd all the lies. 

 

She needed someone to stump while she stayed in tbe Whitehouse. 

 

Every time she spoke, her numbers went down. “When answering a question, she always thinks about what she should say, she never says what she believes.” 

 

I don’t think she’s stupid, but I think she’s lazy and ignorant. 

 

 

[SingAPorn]

He ruined all chance for himself and his party on the day he pulled out the file of sanctions against Russia that plunged entire Europe and ultimately the USA in economic chaos and pauperization. Worse, he turned a blind eye to the war crimes in Gaza and continued the US supply of arms and weapons.

 

Many European nations are calling for an arms embargo and sanctions against Israel and are calling for an independant Palestinitian territory.

 

How can any civilized world tolerate all the land grabbing and violence against palestinians in the West Bank with people just being expelled from their own homes that are bulldozed down for the jewish settlers ?

 

There are a majority of people in Israel who are equally outraged on what their country is doing in Gaza and the West Bank. And no need to rush and claim these words are anti-semitic as they are not.

[rattlesnake]

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I like Joe Biden as a human being very much.

 

Joe Biden's Daughter Ashley Confirms Legitimacy of the 'Showers with Dad' Diary Entry

Joe Biden's daughter Ashley Biden's diary, which was stolen and sold for profits, claimed horrifying details of a "hyper-sexualized" childhood.

[…]

Apparently, in one of the excerpts from the diary entry, Ashley wrote about "showering with her dad" at an inappropriate age, fear of being "sexually abused" as a young girl and so much more.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/joe-bidens-daughter-ashley-confirms-legitimacy-of-the-showers-with-dad-diary-entry/ar-BB1pfCEm

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

11 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

That's fake news, man!

Nothing about men's washrooms.

Oops, I got the issue of women's menstrual products in US schools confused with what's going on up in Canada.

The Canadian military must provide women's menstrual products in Men's washrooms on Canadian military bases, paid for by the Canadian taxpayers, natch.

[Hanaguma]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Ukraine reclaiming all occupied lands.

Russia returning stolen and brainwashed Ukrainian children.

Russia paying reparations to rebuild the cities they destroyed, etc.

Ukrainians that want to be Russian citizens invited to move to Russia.

Some kind of ironclad security guarantees so Russia never does this again.

That could be negotiated. Not necessarily EU / NATO but not a permanent ban on Ukraine joining either.

Not much of that will happen, especially now that Zelensky is on a timer to cut a deal.

 

Crimea is gone, as is at least some territory in the eastern part of the country. Reparations will never happen. Security guarantee in return for not joining NATO. It is the best he can hope for unless he wants to completely bleed his country out. 

[RetiredNavy71]

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Joe Biden has been a reasonably successful president in many ways. Such as the infrastructure bill and managing an economic recovery without recession or depression when pretty much all economists said avoiding a recession was impossible. 

 

But on the two biggest issues he has failed.

 

On the Russo Ukraine war he never helped enough and soon enough for Ukraine to ever have any chance of winning. Just enough to not lose. Not good enough!

 

On the biggest defining issue of his presidency -- saving American democracy from autocracy and being a bridge to a new generation of pro democracy leadership -- he has FAILED miserably.

 

I like Joe Biden as a human being very much. All presidents make mistakes. But these two mistakes will damn him historically.

 

Of course he should have never begun to run for a second term. Then the democrats would have gone through a normal primary process and nominated a stronger candidate.

 

Harris did an amazing job in an impossible situation. The reason she was put into that impossible situation sits firmly at the door of Joe Biden. Needless to say, the political career of Harris is now over.

History will be the judge of his and many other's president's legacy; not you! As far as Kamala Harris' political career is concerned, she is just getting started 

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

On the biggest defining issue of his presidency -- saving American democracy from autocracy and being a bridge to a new generation of pro democracy leadership -- he has FAILED miserably.

IMO his biggest success was failing and allowing a better POTUS to take over. The worst thing that could have happened is that he managed to stay on as POTUS or that he managed to get Harris elected.

Now, there is a chance that the US and the western world can be saved from an ignominious end mired in never ending war and destruction.

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Harris did an amazing job in an impossible situation. The reason she was put into that impossible situation sits firmly at the door of Joe Biden. Needless to say, the political career of Harris is now over.

Good result for all us us that are not woke idiots.

She did a completely rubbish job- she failed to even make it close when she was destroyed in the election. Lost women, lost Blacks, lost Latinos, lost the undecided. Even lost Muslims and Arabs over her support of genocide in Gaza.

Couldn't even make it with killing the unborn as a "major" issue, couldn't even make it with the LGB+ silliness or MMCC scam.

 

Completely useless IMO. We were saved from a great catastrophe when Trump won, and he did. He won large, he won huuuuge, he destroyed her. Good job.

 

Hopefully Harris retires to wherever useless loser politicians go, and we never hear from her again.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

There are a majority of people in Israel who are equally outraged on what their country is doing in Gaza and the West Bank. And no need to rush and claim these words are anti-semitic as they are not.

Correct on first sentence,

No doubt some will try and call you anti semitic for that, as that is all they have to dispute the truth. Luckily it doesn't work any more.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, mogandave said:

You’re not old enough to remember Carter? 

 

Obama did the most damage.

At least Carter was a good man that was unlucky with his rescue attempt for Iranian hostage crisis. Biden is a war monger and a colluder in genocide and war crimes. Unfortunately he will never stand trial with netanyahu in the ICC.