GammaGlobulin Posted November 12, 2024 Posted November 12, 2024 Dear Folks, Jeff was better than Jimi. Therefore, what was it about Jeff that hindered him from truly understanding his true greatness, while he was alive, even though he was greater than Jimi? Was it Jeff's humility? Jeff was not especially humble, and also not proud. He was just right. Therefore, why was Jeff so in awe of Jimi, when Jeff could play rings around Jimi, anytime he wanted to. Was it Jeff's lower-class roots? Not being able to afford a guitar when he was young, which caused him to misconceive his own greatness, relative to the far-inferior Jimi? What is a Jimi, anyway? A jimi, or Jimmies, just like a Hendrix, looks sort of like these.... Or, these.... Except that Jimi was more of a chocolate color. So, the question begs.... Why did Jeff, of the Yardbirds, see himself as any less, and not greater, even, compared to Hendrix? I guess you might scratch your head, even wondering about this.....important question.... Jeff was just better. Jeff was amazing. So then... Why, Oh Why, did Jeff not know this, down deep in his soul? I really wish he had. Jeff was the greatest guitarist that ever lived. Fortunately, we still have this great recording at Ronnie Scott's by which to remember him: And, anybody who is anybody.... Has the full recording, of the full show, as do I. Beck was just BETTER than Jimi. Sometimes guys who try harder, just end up playing better..... And, this is why, even rental-car companies...end up doing better....when... They think they are No.2. I just hope that Jeff Beck will ALWAYS be remembered for being.... Number One. Best regards, Gamma Note: The YouTube videos of the Jeff Beck performance at Ronnie Scott's are garbage. If you want it, you will need to search for it....might take some time.... 1
save the frogs Posted November 12, 2024 Posted November 12, 2024 Jimi Hendrix = garbage He may know how to play the guitar 100 miles an hour, but that type of playing irritates me anyway. Here's a quote from Jimi: Jimi Hendrix once said, "When I die, I want people to just play my music, go wild and freak out, do anything they want to do." So basically, his music is just designed to get people to do drugs, act crazy, don't take responsibility for your life. Exemplified by Purple Haze, maybe his most famous song. And the lyrics go like this. So his music leads to misery. Purple haze, all around Don't know if I'm comin' up or down Am I happy or in misery? 1 3 1
GammaGlobulin Posted November 12, 2024 Author Posted November 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, save the frogs said: Jimi Hendrix = garbage He may know how to play the guitar 100 miles an hour, but that type of playing irritates me anyway. Here's a quote from Jimi: Jimi Hendrix once said, "When I die, I want people to just play my music, go wild and freak out, do anything they want to do." So basically, his music is just designed to get people to do drugs. Exemplified by Purple Haze, maybe his most famous song. And the lyrics go like this. So his music leads to misery. Purple haze, all around Don't know if I'm comin' up or down Am I happy or in misery? As I think I mentioned.... Jeff is far greater.
thaibeachlovers Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said: I just hope that Jeff Beck will ALWAYS be remembered for being.... I wish that I didn't know that either Beck or Hendricks existed. Useless information only clogs my brain, and knowing about Hendicks must have prevented much useful info residing in my brain. Beck is reasonably easy to ignore as his band was never that popular, while I had the misfortune to be assailed by Hendricks constantly on the radio till such time as he departed on his last tour across the great divide. I never did, nor do I know now, why Hendricks was so popular, other than everyone was a pot head. 2 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 13, 2024 1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said: I just hope that Jeff Beck will ALWAYS be remembered for being.... I scorn Beck. Santana is IMO the greatest guitarist of that era and for sure he was more popular. I have every record Santana put out- of Beck, narry a one. 2 2
roo860 Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 I was there in 1968, Woburn Abbey festival. 1
Popular Post save the frogs Posted November 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 13, 2024 1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said: As I think I mentioned.... Jeff is far greater. Pat Metheny is greater. 1 2
Popular Post connda Posted November 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 13, 2024 2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said: Jeff was better than Jimi. That's a matter of opinion. Jimi was a rock-god. Still is. 2 3 1
Yagoda Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 guitarists: Clapton Duane Allman Allan Collins Leslie West Frank Zappa Alvin Lee Roger McGuinn Jorma Kaukenen
Purdey Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 I think Jimi was probably a better showman than Beck and that is what excited people at the time. 1 1
jaywalker2 Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 I still listen to Hendrix not so Beck. Jimi wasn't just a great guitarist. He was a singer, song writer, and a dynamic performer. Jeff Beck had no charisma and unless you were into long guitar solos, he didn't have that much to offer. There was a story about Jimi after he moved to London. One night Cream asked him to perform at one of their concerts. After the song was over, Eric Clapton left the stage shaking and said, "Nobody told me he was that Effing good."
Popular Post theshu25 Posted November 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 13, 2024 Ry Cooder better then all of them put together. 1 1 1
swissie Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 Great guitar players come a dime a dozend. As such they admired each other, knowing well that their talent to write good songs were basically non existant. Without the talent to write songs one can only remain as a" good craftsman". Hendrickes "Hey Joe" is the only thing that will remain of his efforts. Becks efforts have been long forgotten as they were without significance. Just a good guitar "craftsman".
Popular Post Luuk Chaai Posted November 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 13, 2024 duuuhhhhhhhh ! it's a lot easier for people that can actually play guitar to understand this ( Ive been playing for 58 years ) Hendrix was innovative,daring,raw,exciting,sexy, and mystical. he opened the door to the future and led the charge and fact . he couldn't or didn't play the same song the same way two times in a row and technically was not a book trained or theory knowledged musician. It all came from his soul. To see and hear live what passed thru his fingers and Strat's can not be put into words. Calling him a God, is well, just and understatement! 1 1 3
Yagoda Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 7 hours ago, swissie said: Great guitar players come a dime a dozend. As such they admired each other, knowing well that their talent to write good songs were basically non existant. Without the talent to write songs one can only remain as a" good craftsman". Hendrickes "Hey Joe" is the only thing that will remain of his efforts. Becks efforts have been long forgotten as they were without significance. Just a good guitar "craftsman". Hendrix didn't write Hey Joe
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Luuk Chaai said: duuuhhhhhhhh ! it's a lot easier for people that can actually play guitar to understand this ( Ive been playing for 58 years ) Hendrix was innovative,daring,raw,exciting,sexy, and mystical. he opened the door to the future and led the charge and fact . he couldn't or didn't play the same song the same way two times in a row and technically was not a book trained or theory knowledged musician. It all came from his soul. To see and hear live what passed thru his fingers and Strat's can not be put into words. Calling him a God, is well, just and understatement! and yet I changed the channel when he was on. I guess god is only god in person. I think the reason I dislike so much of the 60s and early 70s music is that I wasn't permanently stoned. Being off one's head is a necessity to like Led Zeppelin <deleted> 3
KannikaP Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 22 hours ago, Yagoda said: guitarists: Clapton Duane Allman Allan Collins Leslie West Frank Zappa Alvin Lee Roger McGuinn Jorma Kaukenen Where are Hank B Marvin, Chet Atkins, Mark Knopfler, Les Paul. Hank influenced so many English lads in the 60s. 1
save the frogs Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Luuk Chaai said: duuuhhhhhhhh ! it's a lot easier for people that can actually play guitar to understand this ( Ive been playing for 58 years ) Hendrix was innovative,daring,raw,exciting,sexy, and mystical. he opened the door to the future and led the charge and fact . he couldn't or didn't play the same song the same way two times in a row and technically was not a book trained or theory knowledged musician. It all came from his soul. To see and hear live what passed thru his fingers and Strat's can not be put into words. Calling him a God, is well, just and understatement! This channel is created by born again Christians, I think. But whatever. Christianity aside, the point is that Hendrix was not just a master guitarist. That type of music has a certain effect on people listening to it. It amazes me that people who are musicians their entire lives don't understand this and only talk about the talent someone has. This music is part of a cult. That's why they called it "Electric Church". And one of its intentions is to initiate people into drugs. Great guitarist, yes. But also probably ruined a lot of people's lives. As a lot of people who go to these concerts end up being drug addicts. Was he possessed? Yeah, maybe not. Maybe that doesn't exist. But he admits that music is designed to hypnotize people and preach into their subconscious. Anyway, I'm not saying you need to pick up a Bible and agree with everything in this video, but some things he mentions have some truth to it. Jimi Hendrix = crap 1
Popular Post proton Posted November 14, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 14, 2024 Beck was no fool, Jimi was the most talented, innovative and coolest guitarist of his generation. 1 3
bendejo Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 Did I miss any mention of Jimmy Page? I didn't think he was all that, and that painted-on smile gave me the creeps. I like Hendrix, Electric Ladyland lives on. His first two albums became the primer for a whole new generation of rock performers. I still like JBeck too. Check out one of his later albums from 1989, Guitar Shop. And then there's Roy Buchanan: Sweet Dreams, fella.
Hellfire Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 Nobody was better than Jimi! For me, one’s attitude towards Hendrix is a litmus test of a person’s overall development. And this test has never let me down. 2
ujayujay Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 It's about music and if you think Jeff Beck live on Ronnie Scotts is garbage, you qualify as arrogant ignorant
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 Does anyone like Hendrix that doesn't use large amounts of weed?
proton Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Does anyone like Hendrix that doesn't use large amounts of weed? 50 years ago, not now, rather have single malt and an opioid! The Hendrix museum in Mayfair was well worth a visit although he only lived there a few months. It was really his gf flat Kathy Etchingham. She had her head screwed on and it's a pity he did not stick with her. The only original item in the flat is the mirror 1
proton Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 Just noticed this AI effort, quite impressive 1
GammaGlobulin Posted November 14, 2024 Author Posted November 14, 2024 1 hour ago, proton said: Just noticed this AI effort, quite impressive Yes. Impressive. And, some of this vid looks like Philly. So.... There must be some confusion here... Said the joker to the thief... Philly should not look like NYC. Can't we never get no relief?
GammaGlobulin Posted November 14, 2024 Author Posted November 14, 2024 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Does anyone like Hendrix that doesn't use large amounts of weed? Of course. Still, I will tell you that Jeff's music is better. Also, I am not commenting on grantsmanship. I am talking solely about the music, itself, and also... Improvisation, and... How it hangs together.
3NUMBAS Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 Never hear Hendrix on radio now he’s forgotten b time, young listeners don’t listen t Hendrix
gamb00ler Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Does anyone like Hendrix that doesn't use large amounts of weed? The weed habit faded... the Hendrix habit has not. All Along the Watch Tower.... probably average once or twice per month.
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