Something smelling musky -- the age of undemocratic in your face oligarchy in the USA.

[Jingthing]

33 minutes ago, seajae said:

sorry mate, not brit slang, shows where you keep your head so its out of natural light, suggest you look at the map of the way the US voted, wasnt just a small percentage. I realize you would much prefer that the dem city votes had more power but they dont get to run the rest of the country, it ensures all states have their voice heard not just big dem cities. 

 

Bizarre post.

I never said a small percentage.

Trump indeed won by a modest margin.

 

Yes British. 

Why deny?

 

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/341833/the-origin-of-knickers-in-a-knot-and-knickers-in-a-twist#341900

 

I can see dummy spit is Aussie/NZ origin but not American. 

 

https://crossidiomas.com/dummy-spit/

[HappyExpat57]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The election is done.

What Trump 2.0 is doing has just begun.

If you find that boring, you may just not read about it. Sorted.

While I admire your tenacity and agree with 99% of what you post, you're just wasting your time. You will NEVER get past the dense layers of denial Fox viewers have plastered on their heads. The best we can do is sit back, make a big bowl of popcorn, and watch the sh!tshow as it unravels. Intentionally uninformed/misinformed Amerikkka has decided this is the tack she is now going to take.

 

And remember, Amerikkka has an average reading level below 6th grade.

 

https://map.barbarabush.org/#:~:text=130 million Americans—54% of,of a sixth-grade level.

 

Who was it that said he loves the poorly educated? THIS is why the last election was lost.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

While I admire your tenacity and agree with 99% of what you post, you're just wasting your time. You will NEVER get past the dense layers of denial Fox viewers have plastered on their heads. The best we can do is sit back, make a big bowl of popcorn, and watch the sh!tshow as it unravels. Intentionally uninformed/misinformed Amerikkka has decided this is the tack she is now going to take.

 

And remember, Amerikkka has an average reading level below 6th grade.

 

https://map.barbarabush.org/#:~:text=130 million Americans—54% of,of a sixth-grade level.

 

Who was it that said he loves the poorly educated? THIS is why the last election was lost.

I see this as a more grey area.

On the one hand I think the maga voting public will need to personally experience the pain Trump 2.0 will definitely bring but on the other hand the history of autocratic regime shows earlier rather than later engagement gives better chances of reducing the severity and hope of reversal.

[HappyExpat57]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I see this as a more grey area.

On the one hand I think the maga voting public will need to personally experience the pain Trump 2.0 will definitely bring but on the other hand the history of autocratic regime shows earlier rather than later engagement gives better chances of reducing the severity and hope of reversal.

Sadly, this is the wrong forum to do that. Sides have been clearly  delineated. You will never change a MAGA opinion. This is red meat to them, they LOVE to eff with you!

 

An interesting read here, explaining how the US has become a factionalized anocracy [a degenerating democracy] that is quickly approaching the open insurgency stage. A second civil war is brewing, we're closer than we want to admit.

 

https://fpif.org/how-to-counter-fascism/

[NanLaew]

12 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Three times on a single page you have  clasified a large group of people as dumb.

 

Keep digging in with that style it's worked out so well in the past.

Here's four.

[Paradise Pete]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:56 AM, pattayasan said:

 

Indeed. Funded by oligarchs. That's the point. Musk knew exactly what he was doing when he offered Twitter a price they couldn't refuse.

 

Musk tried to back out of the deal. Twitter forced him to go through with it.

 

[pattayasan]

5 minutes ago, Paradise Pete said:

 

Musk tried to back out of the deal. Twitter forced him to go through with it.

 

 

So, do you think Musk paid that much then decide4d he'd been duped? Do you think the richest man in the world didn't know the true financial state of a public company? Musk knew what he was doing.

[khagai1]

On 11/16/2024 at 7:18 AM, ModdaPunk said:

 

Bloomberg, Gates, Soros, etc....

All democrats.

Zuckerberg, Bezos, Cuban just to name a few more prominent ones. In addition, both sides had their share of hedge fund managers and other lesser known billionaires, and let's not forget Oprah.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Sadly, this is the wrong forum to do that. Sides have been clearly  delineated. You will never change a MAGA opinion. This is red meat to them, they LOVE to eff with you!

 

An interesting read here, explaining how the US has become a factionalized anocracy [a degenerating democracy] that is quickly approaching the open insurgency stage. A second civil war is brewing, we're closer than we want to admit.

 

https://fpif.org/how-to-counter-fascism/

I'm not suggesting that my posts here are going to help save American democracy from the Trumpist autocratic takeover. This is a discussion forum. Very important things are happening and will be happening after the election. I find the attacks that we shouldn't talk any more just because the election is over and we have a clear winner to be completely ridiculous.

One thing that will be interesting to watch and has already started -- Trump Voter Regret.

Trump voters saying stuff like we didn't vote for this or that even though they really have no excuse this time as Trump has made it very clear what he's about to anyone giving the tiniest effort to have found out.

I expect as the pain of his policies hit, that phenom to become very significant and if there are real midterms, hopefully be reflected in those results. 

As far as a potential civil war, I wouldn't go there yet worrying about it. The divisions are certainly as deep as they were in the last one but it isn't the same geographical situation. Take a state like Georgia. Voted red but it's population centers very blue. 

There are things that might spark something though.

Miller has talked about sending in state national guards from red states into blue states to enforce mass deportations. That's definitely skating on thin ice. 

[harryviking]

Stupidity rules now. We are all just hoping for the best.....😆

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, harryviking said:

Stupidity rules now. We are all just hoping for the best.....😆

Well, based on Trump's actions so far and he's not even in office yet, I would say hope ain't gonna cut it. 

[blaze master]

59 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Here's four.

 

You're amazing. 

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Sadly, this is the wrong forum to do that. Sides have been clearly  delineated. You will never change a MAGA opinion. This is red meat to them, they LOVE to eff with you!

 

An interesting read here, explaining how the US has become a factionalized anocracy [a degenerating democracy] that is quickly approaching the open insurgency stage. A second civil war is brewing, we're closer than we want to admit.

 

https://fpif.org/how-to-counter-fascism/

 

Do you think America needs a "second civil war?"

 

Does the rest of the world deserve America's "second civil war?"

[NanLaew]

39 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

You're amazing. 

 

Not too shabby for just another dumb prole, eh?

 

There are fools and tools on both sides of the partisan divide but for the record, I'm not a Harris prole.

[Thingamabob]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:51 PM, Jingthing said:

Actually, it isn't.

The situation (unfortunately) is in the U.S. system a fairly slim vote majority can potentially bring TOTAL POWER.

As opposed to a parliamentary system.

This rather tragically (as we have a president that clearly intends to rule as an AUTOCRAT) happened this time. Bigly

Love him or loathe him Trump won the presidency. the popular vote, the upper house and the lower house. That sounds like a slam dunk. Surely best to get over it and move on ?

[NanLaew]

12 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Love him or loathe him Trump won the presidency. the popular vote, the upper house and the lower house. That sounds like a slam dunk. Surely best to get over it and move on ?

Absolutely correct. A "slam dunk" is a far, far better analogy than "landslide."

 

Being non-American, I don't have so much to get over than the actual losers. For now anyway.

[SportRider]

Rich people bad. 

Woke people good. 

 

Get a life. 

[NedR69]

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

Not too shabby for just another dumb prole, eh?

 

There are fools and tools on both sides of the partisan divide but for the record, I'm not a Harris prole.

 

Amazing. 

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

Do you think America needs a "second civil war?"

 

Does the rest of the world deserve America's "second civil war?"

No one gives two sh!ts what I think, it's the masses who are getting sick and tired of this division. As we can't seem to come to any friendly, common agreements using logic, it will possibly come to attacks. Republicans have twice the number of guns as Democrats, but from most of the Republicans I've seen, they'd have a hard time walking a mile or two to lift the weapons and shoot. Either way, it would be ugly.

[Yellowtail]

The United States is what it is due to:

Rule of law

High trust society 

Property rights

Strong work ethic

Civic pride

 

Most of these have and are continuing to deteriorate. The trend needs to be reversed, or I think we are doomed.  

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No one gives two sh!ts what I think, it's the masses who are getting sick and tired of this division. As we can't seem to come to any friendly, common agreements using logic, it will possibly come to attacks. Republicans have twice the number of guns as Democrats, but from most of the Republicans I've seen, they'd have a hard time walking a mile or two to lift the weapons and shoot. Either way, it would be ugly.

So, you're sick and tired of the divisions, so you call Republicans fat. 

 

 

[newbee2022]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:24 PM, TedG said:

Take your loss like a man and stop crying about it. 

Yeah, you ordered a clown and got a whole circus. I can't see any other country with so many lunatics in charge. Enjoy the 4 or less years. It's just entertainment. And I bet nobody will forget these Stan and Olli years or Jekyll and Hyde time. George Orwell's 1984 is a joke in comparison. Americans got the so called Govt that they deserve. It's party time 🧑‍🎄. Cheating and stealing is normal, same as pussy grabbing and lying. Conviction is an award and honor a fake. A failed state to be. Congrats.🤗

[NanLaew]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

So, you're sick and tired of the divisions, so you call Republicans fat. 

 

 

 

The ones schlepping around Wal-Mart are. The ones at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods, less so.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/12/09/you-are-where-you-shop-what-your-grocery-store-says-about-you/

[Yellowtail]

Hey, did someone order a clown? 

[edwardflory]

Food for thought.

 

The contested Pennsylvania Senate race barrels towards a $1 million recount, DEMOCRATIC officials in a few blue counties are openly ADMITTING to COUNTING DISQUALIFIED ballots IN DEFIANCE of STATE LAW and COURT ORDERS.

 

I see a MASSIVE lawsuits / maybe CRIMINAL CHARGES

( IN DEFIANCE of STATE LAW and COURT ORDERS ) in the future

 

Tell me more about  honest Democratic election officials!

[pattayasan]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

So, you're sick and tired of the divisions, so you call Republicans fat.

 

I can name one who is.

[HappyExpat57]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So, you're sick and tired of the divisions, so you call Republicans fat. 

 

 

So you're a Fox viewer and quite accustomed to denying facts. Got it.

[HappyExpat57]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Hey, did someone order a clown? 

Yeah, he won the 2024 presidential election. (Now, you KNEW that's where this would go)

[Bundooman]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:29 PM, Yellowtail said:

Yet Harris outspent Trump by what, two to one? 

 

No one believes you guys anymore. You're going to have to start telling the truth now and them in you want to regain any credibility. 

 

Harris/the left represents the people talking down. 

 

Trump represents the people being talked down to. 

 

Until you talk back up, that is. Then you can choke on it too......