So the U.S. elected an autocrat -- what to expect next from a Hungarian perspective

[Jingthing]

The Trump / Maga autocratic (anti-democratic) movement is modeled after the success of Orban of Hungary to destroy democracy there. So now that the U.S. voters have done what they have done, it's wise to not only learn from history in a general sense, but more specifically to learn from recent Hungarian history.

 

I Watched Orbán Destroy Hungary’s Democracy. Here’s My Advice for the Trump Era. - POLITICO

 

Many believed that after his first term as president, Donald Trump would end up in the dustbin of history. Now Trump is back, and the United States is about to be ruled for the second time by a right-wing populist.

 

Trump’s goal this time is to remake the American government to enhance his power. He isn’t the first modern right-wing populist to attempt this — he is following a playbook pioneered by Hungary’s Viktor Orbán. I lived through Orbán’s power grab as a member of Hungary’s parliament and have been researching populism since. I’ve learned a few things along the way that might help Trump’s opponents understand how he won and how they can fight back.

[KhunLA]

Dude, you really need to get a life, away from Trump.

 

You are comparing a career politician, presently the longest running PM, and at that one position, for 14 years.

 

Apples & oranges beyond belief.  USA president, 2 terms at the most, which very few serve.  That's why Yanks have term limits.  Unfortunately, it doesn't extend to Congress.

 

His last term, if he finishes, as he'll be 82, and done with politics.   Wasn't into politics before the first term, and didn't change much.  A few SCOTUS appointments, but no different if it would have been another Rep in office.

 

He's one person, and as seen, Congress has to agree with anything he does, or he can try to lead by 'executive orders', which have expiration dates, or simply voided by the next administration.  

 

Unless re-elected (not in his case again), and sadly it does happen, but idiot presidents only serve 1 administration of 4 years, which you know, so really can't change much.

 

You know all this, so why do you persist with your silliness ?

[Gsxrnz]

It's the denial of the existence of left-wing authoritarianism that has caused the Leftists to get their knickers in an almighty twist. They are in absolute denial that left-wing authoritarianism is a "thing", despite the overwhelming historical evidence.

 

They also fail to realize that right-wingers absolutely detest pervasive authority of any kind. Leftists require rules and authority to govern their lives, because they are incapable of successfully managing their lives - indeed they are incapable of managing their own emotions, as is self-evident.

 

Ironically, it is the right-wingers detest for authority that would prevent any authoritarian government from going too far. The latest election proves it. Oh wait...authoritarianism can't exist on the left. A circular conundrum.

 

Sic semper tyrannisc. 

 

Edit: Some reading material for the OP. 0% chance it will be read, but...

 

How Experts Overlooked Left-Wing Authoritarianism - The Atlantic

Edited 33 minutes ago by Gsxrnz

[oxo1947]

36 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Dude, you really need to get a life, away from Trump.

 

 

I seriously agree mate--he needs to take a small holiday or something  because he is being consumed by it all.  And the mad thing is he had 4 years under Trump survived ---try to reflect on that, and the fact that no one on here reads a posting about Dem's Vs Reps and suddenly says  "Oh yer never thought of it that way---think I'll change my mind on it all"

[Captain Flack]

Some troll posts attacking the OP has been removed. Discuss the topic, if you have an opinion, not the poster.

[Gsxrnz]

3 minutes ago, oxo1947 said:

 

 

I seriously agree mate--he needs to take a small holiday or something  because he is being consumed by it all.  And the mad thing is he had 4 years under Trump survived ---try to reflect on that, and the fact that no one on here reads a posting about Dem's Vs Reps and suddenly says  "Oh yer never thought of it that way---think I'll change my mind on it all"

 

Total agreeance from me.  It would be understandable if an intelligent argument was opined. But it's just emotive rants.  The Left need the Right, and vice-versa. Without a counterbalance, either side can and do resort to tyranny - but this is counterintuitive to dyed in the wool over emotional Leftists.

 

 

[Yagoda]

The Hungarian people knowingly and fairly elected Orban. His policies have the approval of the people.

 

His opponents do not.

 

Same with Trump.

 

There are winners and there are losers.

[Gsxrnz]

This is how Leftism works.

 

My Mum is Welsh, My Dad is Hungarian.

 

I identify as well hung. 

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

It's the denial of the existence of left-wing authoritarianism that has caused the Leftists to get their knickers in an almighty twist. They are in absolute denial that left-wing authoritarianism is a "thing", despite the overwhelming historical evidence.

 

They also fail to realize that right-wingers absolutely detest pervasive authority of any kind. Leftists require rules and authority to govern their lives, because they are incapable of successfully managing their lives - indeed they are incapable of managing their own emotions, as is self-evident.

 

Ironically, it is the right-wingers detest for authority that would prevent any authoritarian government from going too far. The latest election proves it. Oh wait...authoritarianism can't exist on the left. A circular conundrum.

 

Sic semper tyrannisc. 

 

Edit: Some reading material for the OP. 0% chance it will be read, but...

 

How Experts Overlooked Left-Wing Authoritarianism - The Atlantic

I find your post bizarre, disingenuous, and off topic as it's obviously a fact that autocratic regimes can occur from the left and the right. It would be total idiocy for anyone to deny that.

This topic certainly doesn't deny that.. 

However the fact in question here is about autocratic regimes in the USA and Hungary both of which happen to be right wing movements.