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Daniel Penny Criticizes Policies and Prosecutors Following Subway Clash Acquittal

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In his first interview since being acquitted of negligent homicide charges, Marine veteran Daniel Penny blamed New York’s criminal justice system for the circumstances that led to his fatal confrontation with Jordan Neely on a crowded subway train. Speaking with Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro, Penny also criticized Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, accusing prosecutors of arrogance and a lack of awareness about the public’s concerns regarding crime.  

 

“It really showed their arrogance in kind of their lack of understanding of what’s really happening and, really, what public perception of crime [is],” Penny said. “And no matter whatever anyone says on the news, it’s pretty prevalent. It just showed their arrogance that they were going to get me on something.”  

 

Penny expressed frustration with what he views as failed policies that have made the city unsafe. “These are their policies that have clearly not worked, that the people, the general population are not in support of,” he said. “Yet, their egos are too big just to admit that they’re wrong and they can’t reverse what they’ve done, because that’s a political suicide for them, I guess.”  

 

The former Marine reflected on his return to New York after active duty, describing how the city’s subway system had drastically deteriorated. “Definitely different from what I remembered it to be before the Marine Corps. Before the Marine Corps pre-COVID, it was pretty tame, pretty safe,” Penny said. “And then I got here and this whole new... perception of safety here in New York was changed.”  

 

On May 1, 2023, Penny was on his way home from classes at City Tech in Brooklyn when the confrontation with Neely occurred. He recounted how Neely began screaming, threatening passengers, and demanding food and drinks, creating a tense atmosphere on the subway. “The threats were imminent and something had to be done,” Penny explained. He noted seeing frightened passengers, including mothers and children, which motivated him to act.  

 

As the situation escalated, Penny described the physical struggle that ensued. “When we first get to the ground, he lands on my chest. He knocks the wind [out of] me. I hit my head on the … subway floor,” he said. “There’s a moment of calm… It’s almost like he was shocked that someone did something. And that lasted like a second or two. And I would — I was — in that second or two, I was hoping that that would be it.”  

 

However, the struggle continued. Penny said Neely was “extraordinarily strong,” which he attributed to the synthetic drug K-2. “I look over my shoulder and one of the things I say is, ‘Where are the police?’ I’m exhausted, I’m tired,” Penny recalled. Eventually, the thrashing stopped, and police arrived, though Penny was not immediately informed that Neely had died.  

 

Following the incident, Penny was indicted on manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide charges. The jury ultimately deadlocked on the manslaughter charge, and prosecutors dropped it, leaving only the negligent homicide charge. On Monday, the jury acquitted Penny, concluding a highly polarizing case.  

 

Reflecting on the trial, Penny criticized the legal system and policies he believes contributed to the circumstances leading to the fatal encounter. His acquittal brings closure to his case but reignites broader debates about public safety, criminal justice, and accountability in New York City.  

 

Based on a report by NYP 2024-12-13

 

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Two issues come to thought here....

 

Instead of Penny, if it were a Law enforcement Officer of any jurisdiction, what actions would they have taken to provide public protection?

 

Instead of Penny, if it were another tram rider, would actions would they have taken?

 

At what point would a reasonable citizen ignore the situation before taking action to protect others.

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It used to be that if you tried to help someone who subsequently died, you could be prosecuted for manslaughter. Giving CPR, pulling someone from a wreck, you could end up in court.

People began to ignore anyone in distress as they didn't want to go through the court process.

Then Good Samaritan laws were implemented, and it was easier to try to save someone's life without being jailed for it. These laws generally encourage bystanders to offer assistance to others and reduce their hesitation to act for fear of being sued should they fail. Good Samaritan laws provide limited immunity from being sued in specific circumstances. In many instances it applies only where help is being provided without the intention of reward or financial compensation.

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2 hours ago, Purdey said:

It used to be that if you tried to help someone who subsequently died, you could be prosecuted for manslaughter. Giving CPR, pulling someone from a wreck, you could end up in court.

People began to ignore anyone in distress as they didn't want to go through the court process.

Then Good Samaritan laws were implemented, and it was easier to try to save someone's life without being jailed for it. These laws generally encourage bystanders to offer assistance to others and reduce their hesitation to act for fear of being sued should they fail. Good Samaritan laws provide limited immunity from being sued in specific circumstances. In many instances it applies only where help is being provided without the intention of reward or financial compensation.

 

Pro tip: Avoid choking people to death in front of cameras. I don't blame Penny for stepping up but there are other ways of subduing somebody. There was a video of a Pinoy MMA guy who intervened and he used a very simple arm bar hold which was just as effective.  he held the guy down until the cops came without issue. 

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Yellowtail Star Member

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1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Pro tip: Avoid choking people to death in front of cameras. I don't blame Penny for stepping up but there are other ways of subduing somebody. There was a video of a Pinoy MMA guy who intervened and he used a very simple arm bar hold which was just as effective.  he held the guy down until the cops came without issue. 

Jordan Neely was not choked to death, was alive when the police arrived, and did not die until after the police took over. 

 

Pro tip: Don't terrorize law abiding citizens riding the subway. 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Jordan Neely was not choked to death, was alive when the police arrived, and did not die until after the police took over. 

 

Pro tip: Don't terrorize law abiding citizens riding the subway. 

 

 

 

I really don't care how the crackhead died. That isn't my point. What I am saying is there were easier ways to resolve it and he is very lucky to not be in prison. He wasn't vindicated it was a mistrial.  The thing is he was using a combat technique used in the military presumably against an enemy you have no concern about. So yeah it worked but I don't consider it some huge act of bravery that a trained marine could snuff out a crackhead. I am not sure why everybody let him lay there alone choking him. There were numerous options available

 

Pro tip: Avoid choke holds so you aren't arrested and have huge legal fees. Avoid taking a huge gamble on your entire future. Again I don't care about the fate of the crackhead it's just what Penny did wasn't very bright. He doesn't come off very bright in his interview either when he says he would do it again with out thinking,

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7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Again I don't care about the fate of the crackhead it's just what Penny did wasn't very bright. He doesn't come off very bright in his interview either when he says he would do it again with out thinking,

 

"without" is one word genius .....

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12 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

"without" is one word genius .....

 

that is probably the most significant contribution you will ever make to the world.

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1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

that is probably the most significant contribution you will ever make to the world.


 

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it's just what Penny did wasn't very bright. He doesn't come off very bright in his interview either when he says he would do it again with out thinking,


 

 

LOL !

 

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President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance will make their way to Landover, Maryland, on Saturday to attend the Army-Navy football game and will be joined by Daniel Penny, the Marine veteran recently acquitted in the subway chokehold case in New York City.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-vance-attend-army-navy-game-daniel-penny/story?id=116774267

 

That sound you're hearing, from all the way in Asia, is race baiter heads exploding.

 

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16 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I really don't care how the crackhead died. That isn't my point. What I am saying is there were easier ways to resolve it and he is very lucky to not be in prison. He wasn't vindicated it was a mistrial.  The thing is he was using a combat technique used in the military presumably against an enemy you have no concern about. So yeah it worked but I don't consider it some huge act of bravery that a trained marine could snuff out a crackhead. I am not sure why everybody let him lay there alone choking him. There were numerous options available

 

Pro tip: Avoid choke holds so you aren't arrested and have huge legal fees. Avoid taking a huge gamble on your entire future. Again I don't care about the fate of the crackhead it's just what Penny did wasn't very bright. He doesn't come off very bright in his interview either when he says he would do it again with out thinking,

It was not a mistrial, he was found not guilty. 

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