Popular Post Social Media Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago The European Commission has initiated legal action against the United Kingdom, accusing it of violating the terms of the Brexit agreement. This marks the first significant clash between Brussels and London since Keir Starmer's government took office. At the heart of the dispute is Britain’s alleged failure to uphold EU law concerning the free movement of people. Under the Brexit deal, finalized when the UK officially left the European Union in early 2020, both sides agreed to protect the rights of citizens who had already settled across their respective borders. This meant European nationals and their families living in the UK were to retain their rights to reside, work, and study, while British nationals would have equivalent rights within EU member states. However, the European Commission contends that Britain has not fully complied with these provisions, and has taken the matter to the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ). Although Brexit formally ended the UK's obligation to adhere to EU law, certain aspects of the withdrawal agreement remain under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. This arrangement has been a contentious issue, particularly among pro-Brexit politicians in Britain, who view the continued influence of the European court as undermining UK sovereignty. In a strongly worded statement, the European Commission criticized the UK’s “shortcomings” in implementing the agreement, asserting that these failures continue to negatively impact EU citizens. "After carefully assessing the replies of the United Kingdom, the Commission maintains that several elements of the grievances remain unaddressed, including on the rights of workers and the rights of extended family members,” the statement read. The Commission emphasized that the violations in question occurred at the end of 2020, shortly after the transition period concluded. It noted that Britain’s actions, or lack thereof, have left unresolved issues that affect the lives of many EU nationals. As the legal dispute unfolds, it underscores the ongoing tensions and complexities in post-Brexit relations, with both sides striving to navigate the challenges of maintaining commitments while asserting their respective interests. Based on a report by Politico 2024-12-17 1 1 1 2 1
Popular Post jippytum Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago Never mind Starmer is doing his utmost to retract Brexit. 2 1 1 1
Popular Post soalbundy Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago Just now, jippytum said: Never mind Starmer is doing his utmost to retract Brexit. Can't come soon enough. I'm sure most people in the UK now see Brexit was a mistake. 1 1 1 1 3 2 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Posted 6 hours ago No need to sue us. Just tell Starmer how much you want. He'll send you double that amount, and offer to take another million migrants. Maybe offer you 100 Billion to rejoin the EU as well. The traitorous simp that he is. 1 2 1 3
Chomper Higgot Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Social Media said: The Commission emphasized that the violations in question occurred at the end of 2020, shortly after the transition period concluded. There’s a surprise. 2 2
billd766 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Fairly typical. The EU suing the UK in the EU courts. Nothing like adding a bit of bias is there? AFAIR the UK is no longer a member of the EU anyway. 1 2 1
Popular Post phetphet Posted 5 hours ago Popular Post Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Social Media said: It noted that Britain’s actions, or lack thereof, have left unresolved issues that affect the lives of many EU nationals. Then imagine how many British nationals feel about how all this unchecked illegal immigration is affecting their lives. Public services are falling apart, and the Thought Police are out to stop anyone saying anything bad about this Government. 1 1 2 3
henryford1958 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago With "friends" like the EUSSR who needs enemies? 3 1
The Cyclist Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago It amazes me that people posting on a Thai based forum, possibly living in Thailand, are advocating that the UK should allow free movement of people. Would your Thai wife or partner get free movement to the UK, or would you have to jump through some financial hoops to get them to the UK legally ? You should all be in Bangkok on a daily basis, waving banners, advocating that Thailand opens its borders to all and scrap everything to do with immigration reporting. Go on, give us all a laugh, as we watch the news feeds of you all getting rounded up and held in a secure place until deportation. 4 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted 5 hours ago Popular Post Posted 5 hours ago 17 minutes ago, billd766 said: Fairly typical. The EU suing the UK in the EU courts. Nothing like adding a bit of bias is there? AFAIR the UK is no longer a member of the EU anyway. The UK remains accountable under the terms withdrawal treaty the signed up to. 1 2 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted 5 hours ago Popular Post Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: It amazes me that people posting on a Thai based forum, possibly living in Thailand, are advocating that the UK should allow free movement of people. Would your Thai wife or partner get free movement to the UK, or would you have to jump through some financial hoops to get them to the UK legally ? You should all be in Bangkok on a daily basis, waving banners, advocating that Thailand opens its borders to all and scrap everything to do with immigration reporting. Go on, give us all a laugh, as we watch the news feeds of you all getting rounded up and held in a secure place until deportation. What amazes me is that whole post is premised on a false claim in the opening sentence. 1 3
Surasak Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, Social Media said: The European Commission has initiated legal action against the United Kingdom, accusing it of violating the terms of the Brexit agreement. This marks the first significant clash between Brussels and London since Keir Starmer's government took office. At the heart of the dispute is Britain’s alleged failure to uphold EU law concerning the free movement of people. Under the Brexit deal, finalized when the UK officially left the European Union in early 2020, both sides agreed to protect the rights of citizens who had already settled across their respective borders. This meant European nationals and their families living in the UK were to retain their rights to reside, work, and study, while British nationals would have equivalent rights within EU member states. However, the European Commission contends that Britain has not fully complied with these provisions, and has taken the matter to the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ). Although Brexit formally ended the UK's obligation to adhere to EU law, certain aspects of the withdrawal agreement remain under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. This arrangement has been a contentious issue, particularly among pro-Brexit politicians in Britain, who view the continued influence of the European court as undermining UK sovereignty. In a strongly worded statement, the European Commission criticized the UK’s “shortcomings” in implementing the agreement, asserting that these failures continue to negatively impact EU citizens. "After carefully assessing the replies of the United Kingdom, the Commission maintains that several elements of the grievances remain unaddressed, including on the rights of workers and the rights of extended family members,” the statement read. The Commission emphasized that the violations in question occurred at the end of 2020, shortly after the transition period concluded. It noted that Britain’s actions, or lack thereof, have left unresolved issues that affect the lives of many EU nationals. As the legal dispute unfolds, it underscores the ongoing tensions and complexities in post-Brexit relations, with both sides striving to navigate the challenges of maintaining commitments while asserting their respective interests. Based on a report by Politico 2024-12-17 A two way street. The EU are doing much the same with Brits who have settled in the EU. 5
The Cyclist Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: Can't come soon enough. I'm sure most people in the UK now see Brexit was a mistake. How about the people of France and Germany ? Are their respective problems down to Brexit also ? Anyone with a more than 2 braincells could have told the EU that when the ' Net takers ' exceed the ' Net Contributors ' problems were going to arise. At the National level, the same applies, hence debt is spiralling out of control, Public Services are in the toilet, and yet some continue to howl about free movement. Controlled migration is a boon for a Country, unfettered immigration is a disaster for a Country.
jippytum Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Surasak said: A two way street. The EU are doing much the same with Brits who have settled in the EU. I agree. The problem seems the exit conditions from brexit where not as strict as people belived. Starmer will set us back to square one instead of correction tme mistakes.
newbee2022 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, Social Media said: The European Commission has initiated legal action against the United Kingdom, accusing it of violating the terms of the Brexit agreement. This marks the first significant clash between Brussels and London since Keir Starmer's government took office. At the heart of the dispute is Britain’s alleged failure to uphold EU law concerning the free movement of people. Under the Brexit deal, finalized when the UK officially left the European Union in early 2020, both sides agreed to protect the rights of citizens who had already settled across their respective borders. This meant European nationals and their families living in the UK were to retain their rights to reside, work, and study, while British nationals would have equivalent rights within EU member states. However, the European Commission contends that Britain has not fully complied with these provisions, and has taken the matter to the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ). Although Brexit formally ended the UK's obligation to adhere to EU law, certain aspects of the withdrawal agreement remain under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. This arrangement has been a contentious issue, particularly among pro-Brexit politicians in Britain, who view the continued influence of the European court as undermining UK sovereignty. In a strongly worded statement, the European Commission criticized the UK’s “shortcomings” in implementing the agreement, asserting that these failures continue to negatively impact EU citizens. "After carefully assessing the replies of the United Kingdom, the Commission maintains that several elements of the grievances remain unaddressed, including on the rights of workers and the rights of extended family members,” the statement read. The Commission emphasized that the violations in question occurred at the end of 2020, shortly after the transition period concluded. It noted that Britain’s actions, or lack thereof, have left unresolved issues that affect the lives of many EU nationals. As the legal dispute unfolds, it underscores the ongoing tensions and complexities in post-Brexit relations, with both sides striving to navigate the challenges of maintaining commitments while asserting their respective interests. Based on a report by Politico 2024-12-17 Thank you EU. Beat them!😂 1 1
RayC Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Cyclist said: How about the people of France and Germany ? Are their respective problems down to Brexit also ? Anyone with a more than 2 braincells could have told the EU that when the ' Net takers ' exceed the ' Net Contributors ' problems were going to arise. At the National level, the same applies, hence debt is spiralling out of control, Public Services are in the toilet, and yet some continue to howl about free movement. Controlled migration is a boon for a Country, unfettered immigration is a disaster for a Country. As Michel Barnier said, "There are no winners with Brexit". Although the effects of Brexit on the EU member states haven't been the subject of as much research as in the UK, given that France and Germany are major trading partners and allies of the UK, it would be surprising if those two countries hadn't also been negatively affected by Brexit albeit not to the same extent as the UK. There were fewer immigrants to the UK, both in absolute numbers and in terms of net migration, under the 'uncontrolled' free movement of people, when we were an EU member compared with the post-Brexit 'controlled' situation. 2
soalbundy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Cyclist said: How about the people of France and Germany ? Are their respective problems down to Brexit also ? Anyone with a more than 2 braincells could have told the EU that when the ' Net takers ' exceed the ' Net Contributors ' problems were going to arise. At the National level, the same applies, hence debt is spiralling out of control, Public Services are in the toilet, and yet some continue to howl about free movement. Controlled migration is a boon for a Country, unfettered immigration is a disaster for a Country. In a way the net contributors are just circulating tax money, the net takers then buy the products from the contributors and so the money returns, in addition new industries slowly arise in the poorer member states, see Poland for instance, once with a lower standard of living than East Germany and now the fastest growing economy in Europe, they, unlike the UK, can afford a large modern army for instance, they are getting richer through their own efforts now while the UK's average citizens are getting poorer.
The Cyclist Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 15 minutes ago, RayC said: As Michel Barnier said, "There are no winners with Brexit". Is that him that has just been booted from Office ? Don't need words of advice from an EU Sychophant, thank you very much. 1 1
The Cyclist Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, soalbundy said: In a way the net contributors are just circulating tax money, You keep believing that 35 years ago, Germany was a great place, both to visit and live and work. Put your hand on your heart and tell me the same is true today. Every single of those Countries that are / were Net Contributors to the EU ate sliding down the S bend of the toilet. 1
RayC Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Is that him that has just been booted from Office ? Don't need words of advice from an EU Sychophant, thank you very much. Yes, that's the same fellow. I could do without the irrational mutterings of xenophobes, but this is an 'open' forum so I guess that we'll both have to bite the bullet. 1
The Cyclist Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, Purdey said: Sign an agreement then break it. Sounds legit. It would be better to wait for the details of what the UK has actually broken. My recollection is that there 1 An estimated 3 million in the UK. 2. An actual 6.5 million applied for residence 3. Some were refused when they applied after the closing date. 1
The Cyclist Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, RayC said: I could do without the irrational mutterings of xenophobes Report the xenophobic posts, instead of throwing a word around that you have no idea of its actual meaning. Xenophobic ? Take a look at the makeup of the EU Parliament and Commission, some might say that would be xenophobic. Trumpet.
Popular Post soalbundy Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: You keep believing that 35 years ago, Germany was a great place, both to visit and live and work. Put your hand on your heart and tell me the same is true today. Every single of those Countries that are / were Net Contributors to the EU ate sliding down the S bend of the toilet. I lived there, Munich, for nearly 40 years and have a German daughter and grandchild there, she tells me life is normal, just the way it was before all the news about Germany's collapse. The shops aren't boarded up like in London and the restaurants and pubs are full, recently she had trouble finding a parking space to the ski lifts the place was so full. 1 2 1
The Cyclist Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, soalbundy said: I lived there, Munich, for nearly 40 years and have a German daughter and grandchild there, she tells me life is normal, I'm sure, that just like the UK, parts will be normal, other parts not so normal. But don't try and tell me that itbthe same Germany of 35 years ago. My friends and colleagues who married Germans and stayed on in Germany tell me otherwise.
Chomper Higgot Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Of relevance: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-free-movement-eu-reset-b2663254.html 1
Chomper Higgot Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: I'm sure, that just like the UK, parts will be normal, other parts not so normal. But don't try and tell me that itbthe same Germany of 35 years ago. My friends and colleagues who married Germans and stayed on in Germany tell me otherwise. Of course it’s not the same Germany as 35 years ago, it reunified on 1990 an event that had huge impacts on Germany. 1
soalbundy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, The Cyclist said: I'm sure, that just like the UK, parts will be normal, other parts not so normal. But don't try and tell me that itbthe same Germany of 35 years ago. My friends and colleagues who married Germans and stayed on in Germany tell me otherwise. Well all I can say is BMW still payed me my Christmas bonus as a pensioner.
The Cyclist Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, soalbundy said: Well all I can say is BMW still payed me my Christmas bonus as a pensioner. Sure, to the best of my recollection German workers were always treated well.
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