EU Sues UK Over Brexit Treaty Breach on Free Movement

[scottiejohn]

7 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Scottie ,there's no need for racism.

Immigration is welcome to the UK and thankyou for accepting these poor people into your country 

I say MORE of them should be made welcome !!!

Yet another stupid post from you!

My question has nothing to do with racism!

Read the post I am referring to!

 

 

[RayC]

15 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Were "immigrants" coming from  EU countries included in those figures?

 

I believe so. Lot of data about EU migration to the UK in the attached link.

 

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/eu-migration-to-and-from-the-uk/#:~:text=In the year ending March,70% from 2016 to 2022.

[scottiejohn]

Just now, RayC said:

 

I believe so. Lot of data about EU migration to the UK in the attached link.

 

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/eu-migration-to-and-from-the-uk/#:~:text=In the year ending March,70% from 2016 to 2022.

Thanks. I was not sure if they were included or not.  

[RayC]

11 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Thanks. I was not sure if they were included or not.  

 

👍 Welcome. Try to ignore the trolls.

[BusyB]

8 hours ago, soalbundy said:

In a way the net contributors are just circulating tax money, the net takers then buy the products from the contributors and so the money returns, in addition new industries slowly arise in the poorer member states, see Poland for instance, once with a lower standard of living than East Germany and now the fastest growing economy in Europe, they, unlike the UK, can afford a large modern army for instance, they are getting richer through their own efforts now while the UK's average citizens are getting poorer.

 

Don't confuse the poor dears with facts pal. It's cruel.

[bkk_mike]

12 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

It amazes me that people posting on a Thai based forum, possibly living in Thailand, are advocating that the UK should allow free movement of people.

 

Would your Thai wife or partner get free movement to the UK, or would you have to jump through some financial hoops to get them to the UK legally ?
 

You should all be in Bangkok on a daily basis, waving banners, advocating that Thailand opens its borders to all and scrap everything to do with immigration reporting.

 

Go on, give us all a laugh, as we watch the news feeds of you all getting rounded up and held in a secure place until deportation.

You really don't understand Brexit caused at least some <deleted> for those married to Thai nationals.

Prior to Brexit, you could travel with your Thai spouse to the EU without (at least in theory - when already in the EU) needing to get a visa, so long as you were travelling together. If you chose to get a visa, it was free (because that's the rule for those married to an EU national).

Now. to take your wife from London to Paris on Eurostar, you have no choice but to arrange a visa first. And it's no longer free.

 

That's relatively inexpensive if you're in the UK - because they need the flight bookings and the hotel bookings BEFORE you apply for the visa. And losing the money for an Easyjet flight and booking at the refundable hotel price rather than the non-refundable one - isn't that much money. Do it from Thailand sometime... the difference in fare for a refundable flight and a non-refundable flight is quite significant.

 

Then you wonder why people complain about Brexit from the other side of the world - because Brits there are affected by it too. And just like in the UK - nobody's life has been improved by Brexit.

 

 

And you may not have noticed this - but all the idiots that brought you Brexit campaigned on a promise that Brexit would lower immigration... - Have you looked at the figures... - Immigration shot up after Brexit. What dropped was emigration. All those pensioners leaving the UK and retiring in Spain stopped in their tracks - because Brexit shafted them too.

 

Thailand will let in people on a spouse visa for the visa fee. No income requirements, no language test, no TB test. And the visa is very cheap compared to the UK one. And it's issued in a matter of a few days - unlike the UK one that you pay an arm and a leg for.

[OJAS]

18 hours ago, Social Media said:

However, the European Commission contends that Britain has not fully complied with these provisions

 

Nothing among all the Euro-waffle contained in the OP that I can see, which states clearly and unambiguously precisely on which specific grounds those Brussels-based charlatans consider that the UK has not complied FULLY (in block capitals for emphasis) with said provisions.

 

[RayC]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Pretty much the opposite of what you do 😆.

 

You completely ignore the arguments put forward and throw out lazy, generic slurs like bigot, racist, xenophobe etc.

 

 

Please point out what is factually incorrect about stating that immigration to the UK was lower when we were a member of the EU compared to the situation today when we are outside the bloc? It's a fact which you are seemingly unable to accept, presumably because it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

If you spend less time posting angry, aggressive and confrontational rhetoric -  and replying in a similar manner when challenged - imo you shouldn't be surprised when someone replies in kind.

 

If you want to engage in civilised, polite discussion, you will find that I will reciprocate. Just an idea; what tone you adopt is, of course, entirely up to you🕊️

[RayC]

14 minutes ago, OJAS said:

 

Nothing among all the Euro-waffle contained in the OP that I can see, which states clearly and unambiguously precisely on which specific grounds those Brussels-based charlatans consider that the UK has not complied FULLY (in block capitals for emphasis) with said provisions.

 

 

There you go

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_3676

[BusyB]

54 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

There you go

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_3676

 

OMG! More facts ... the poor things'll be dizzy by now.

[The Cyclist]

11 hours ago, bkk_mike said:

You really don't understand Brexit caused at least some <deleted> for those married to Thai nationals.

Prior to Brexit, you could travel with your Thai spouse to the EU without (at least in theory - when already in the EU) needing to get a visa, so long as you were travelling together.

 

Prior to Brexit, a Thai National needed a Schengen Visa to travel to the EU.

 

And here is the cluster that was Freedom of Movement.

 

That Thai National would also need a UK visa to travel to the UK from the EU. Because of Freedom of movement, people travelling within the EU were never( or rarely ) challenged entering the UK from the EU.

 

The UK was never part of Schengen, so Schengen Visas did not apply to people entering the UK.

 

And the point you are missing. Prior to Brexit a Brit taking a Thai National to the UK had to jump through a few financial hoops to obtain a Visa for their Thai partner.

 

The same applies post Brexit, only the financial hoops have increased in monetary size.

 

Jeezo, the UK closed a loophole that was being abused and people ( Are you a Brit ? ) are up in arms.