Temu

[pomchop]

Never used them. 

 

Any problems re delivery to condos or other issues?  Or would you say they are basically more or less same as amazon?

 

In other words do you recommend them or have better choice to use?

[roo860]

6 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Never used them. 

 

Any problems re delivery to condos or other issues?  Or would you say they are basically more or less same as amazon?

 

In other words do you recommend them or have better choice to use?

I actually can't fault them, can track your order, COD, ordered alot of stuff over the last 6 months  

[redwood1]

I just put my first order in with TEMU  about 4-5 days ago COD.....The order should be almost in Thailand by now.....The ordering process was no problem....

 

TEMU has a very very good selection of clothing......But for other things besides clothing I think Lazada and Shopee are much better......

 

 

[KhunLA]

With TEMU, you have to make sure it is actually TEMU, as more than a few fake TEMU sites that I've noticed lately, especially on FB.   Bookmark the real one, so not duped into a fake one.

 

Wife has ordered a couple things, and they were as described 👍

[Wuvu2]

I made one purchase and returned it. Instead of putting the refund credit on my credit card the gave me an in-store credit. Lazada has never done that. That was the first and last time I ordered from Timu. Lazada is also tightening their return system but so far no issues.

[The Old Bull]

When my old lady walks by and sees scantily dressed women on my computer  screen I get teased. I have to explain they are adds put there by TEMU not by me every time.Thankgoodness they appear to have cut back on the adds.

[Trentham]

On 12/20/2024 at 1:40 PM, roo860 said:

I actually can't fault them, can track your order, COD, ordered alot of stuff over the last 6 months  

I loathe them for their incessant ads that I have no interest in.

[KannikaP]

Mrs tried TEMU but said the quality was bad. She uses TikTok now.

I use Lazada & Shopee, never any problem with returns, card or COD.

[roo860]

8 minutes ago, Trentham said:

I loathe them for their incessant ads that I have no interest in.

I've turned them off, only get updates on my order 

[pomchop]

8 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Mrs tried TEMU but said the quality was bad. She uses TikTok now.

I use Lazada & Shopee, never any problem with returns, card or COD.

i have never used any of them here in thailand...so are they all out of china or ?...Lazada seems to send lot of stuff to my current condo building....no idea re shopee...I just want a decent company with decent products and no hassles.  Thanks for info

[vukovar77]

I ordered some things from TEMU, but they never came.

[newbee2022]

On 12/20/2024 at 9:32 AM, pomchop said:

Never used them. 

 

Any problems re delivery to condos or other issues?  Or would you say they are basically more or less same as amazon?

 

In other words do you recommend them or have better choice to use?

Very reliable. Excellent refund policy

[khunPer]

On 12/20/2024 at 3:32 AM, pomchop said:

Never used them. 

 

Any problems re delivery to condos or other issues?  Or would you say they are basically more or less same as amazon?

 

In other words do you recommend them or have better choice to use?

Easy peasy: Avoid problem by not using Temu. Lazada and Shopee has been OK for me, having both brand name quality and cheap stuff that is cheap enough to throw away if not good enough....

[Davedub]

4 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

I made one purchase and returned it. Instead of putting the refund credit on my credit card the gave me an in-store credit. Lazada has never done that. That was the first and last time I ordered from Timu. Lazada is also tightening their return system but so far no issues.

 

A good few years ago ordered a laser printer from Lazada for 15k. The order got cancelled after it wasn't shipped in time. The refund went to my Lazada wallet, where I left it thinking it was safe. A number of months later I went to use it and found my money had 'expired', apparently as per Lazada's terms and conditions. This I consider theft, regardless of it being technically legal because it was set forth in the terms and conditons. I have avoided using Lazada ever since.

[NanLaew]

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

With TEMU, you have to make sure it is actually TEMU, as more than a few fake TEMU sites that I've noticed lately, especially on FB.   Bookmark the real one, so not duped into a fake one.

 

Wife has ordered a couple things, and they were as described 👍

 

Use their app? If it is anything like Lazada, their website is not as good, or as secure as their app on the smartphone.

 

After the (repeat) experiences of my mate's wife in Malaysia who has been taken to the cleaners twice after dealing with vendors selling something, either via Facebook or LINE, the penny has finally dropped. You shouldn't shop on social media.

[AlwaysThere]

On 12/19/2024 at 9:32 PM, pomchop said:

Never used them. 

 

Any problems re delivery to condos or other issues?  Or would you say they are basically more or less same as amazon?

 

In other words do you recommend them or have better choice to use?

 

They have cheap cordierite pizza/baking stones, useful for an 'air fryer'. Just over 200 baht.

[LittleBear57]

Been good with the things I have ordered always on time. Never had to return anything yet though, but you can click on the page to access a return form. Had issues in the past with Shopee and Lazada, a major one right now with lazada, awful customer service. Hopefully Temu returns will be easier if needed.

[roo860]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

Use their app? If it is anything like Lazada, their website is not as good, or as secure as their app on the smartphone.

 

After the (repeat) experiences of my mate's wife in Malaysia who has been taken to the cleaners twice after dealing with vendors selling something, either via Facebook or LINE, the penny has finally dropped. You shouldn't shop on social media.

That's her fault then. COD every time.

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, Davedub said:

 

A good few years ago ordered a laser printer from Lazada for 15k. The order got cancelled after it wasn't shipped in time. The refund went to my Lazada wallet, where I left it thinking it was safe. A number of months later I went to use it and found my money had 'expired', apparently as per Lazada's terms and conditions. This I consider theft, regardless of it being technically legal because it was set forth in the terms and conditons. I have avoided using Lazada ever since.

That is interesting ... like many I am sure I can't be arsed to read the T&Cs and leave a bit of money on account there... never had this happen yet, but I tend to make an order at least once a month. 

[Davedub]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

like many I am sure I can't be arsed to read the T&Cs

 

I'd say it's more a case of there are not enough hours in the day to read all the T&Cs we're all subjected to. I once saw a youtube documentary where this guy did an experiment. He tried to do his normal working week, but would not use any software or services until he'd read the T&C. By Wednesday, he was completely swamped and had more reading than he'd be able to do in a month.

In short, it is pretty much impossible for anyone to read all of the T&Cs they agree to - and that's assuming they're able to read and understand what can often be quite opaque legalese. We are essentially forced to blindly digitally sign these T&Cs if we are to function in society like everyone else. These companies of course know this and some (like Lazada on this occasion) take advantage of the situation by sneaking in unfair terms like our money mysteriously 'expiring' if stored in a Lazada wallet, then shifting responsibility onto us for not having the time to read the T&C. That's on them, not us.

 

[pomchop]

39 minutes ago, Davedub said:

 

I'd say it's more a case of there are not enough hours in the day to read all the T&Cs we're all subjected to. I once saw a youtube documentary where this guy did an experiment. He tried to do his normal working week, but would not use any software or services until he'd read the T&C. By Wednesday, he was completely swamped and had more reading than he'd be able to do in a month.

In short, it is pretty much impossible for anyone to read all of the T&Cs they agree to - and that's assuming they're able to read and understand what can often be quite opaque legalese. We are essentially forced to blindly digitally sign these T&Cs if we are to function in society like everyone else. These companies of course know this and some (like Lazada on this occasion) take advantage of the situation by sneaking in unfair terms like our money mysteriously 'expiring' if stored in a Lazada wallet, then shifting responsibility onto us for not having the time to read the T&C. That's on them, not us.

 

Written by lawyers for lawyers to protect the company from more lawsuits from lawyers.  It never ends.  Don't you love the TV screen that flashes a full screen of fine print that nobody can even see much less read in the one second it is on the screen?

 

If judges had any gonads they would throw out cases brought regarding fine print disclosures...but judges were also once lawyers so they are part of the problem and not part of a solution.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Davedub said:

 

I'd say it's more a case of there are not enough hours in the day to read all the T&Cs we're all subjected to. I once saw a youtube documentary where this guy did an experiment. He tried to do his normal working week, but would not use any software or services until he'd read the T&C. By Wednesday, he was completely swamped and had more reading than he'd be able to do in a month.

In short, it is pretty much impossible for anyone to read all of the T&Cs they agree to - and that's assuming they're able to read and understand what can often be quite opaque legalese. We are essentially forced to blindly digitally sign these T&Cs if we are to function in society like everyone else. These companies of course know this and some (like Lazada on this occasion) take advantage of the situation by sneaking in unfair terms like our money mysteriously 'expiring' if stored in a Lazada wallet, then shifting responsibility onto us for not having the time to read the T&C. That's on them, not us.

 

 

This "youtube documentary" was before AI.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

Written by lawyers for lawyers to protect the company from more lawsuits from lawyers.  It never ends.  Don't you love the TV screen that flashes a full screen of fine print that nobody can even see much less read in the one second it is on the screen?

 

If judges had any gonads they would throw out cases brought regarding fine print disclosures...but judges were also once lawyers so they are part of the problem and not part of a solution.

 

The indolence of the consumer has got nothing to do with the companies or their lawyers. Absolutely nothing 

[pomchop]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

The indolence of the consumer has got nothing to do with the companies or their lawyers. Absolutely nothing 

Bs...so you are lazy if you don't want to read pages of fine print....are you also lazy if you can't read a full tv screeen of fine print in one second?  Who wrote all that fine print knowing full well it would be difficult if not impossible to read and then they can claim you were told?  Lawyers.

[Davedub]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

The indolence of the consumer has got nothing to do with the companies or their lawyers. Absolutely nothing 

 

I'm not sure you got the point - the point was that there are not enough hours in the day to read all the T&Cs we're subjected to if we want to function like everyone else in modern society. Consumer indolence is not always the cause, the sheer volume and opaqueness of T&Cs present consumers with real, insurmountable issues, especially for people in full time employment or raising kids.

 

The abuse of this situation by companies sneaking unfair practices into their T&Cs is the issue here. 

[Davedub]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

This "youtube documentary" was before AI.

 

Yep, good point. Whilst reading this thread it occured to me to try pasting T&Cs into an LLM and ask for analysis with a focus on anything that is not standard / boilerplate.

 

That said, these LLMs do have a limit as to how much text they will accept as a prompt - and T&Cs are extraordinaly long, so it may not be possible.

[NanLaew]

43 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Bs...so you are lazy if you don't want to read pages of fine print....are you also lazy if you can't read a full tv screeen of fine print in one second?  Who wrote all that fine print knowing full well it would be difficult if not impossible to read and then they can claim you were told?  Lawyers.

 

If you have time to post nonsense on anonymous internet forums, then you have enough time to check out the "small print" on businesses that you give your money to.

 

40 minutes ago, Davedub said:

 

I'm not sure you got the point - the point was that there are not enough hours in the day to read all the T&Cs we're subjected to if we want to function like everyone else in modern society. Consumer indolence is not always the cause, the sheer volume and opaqueness of T&Cs present consumers with real, insurmountable issues, especially for people in full time employment or raising kids.

 

The abuse of this situation by companies sneaking unfair practices into their T&Cs is the issue here. 

 

Ditto. Indolence isn't a legal defence.

 

Abuse of the brain that you are blessed with should be punished though.

 

caveat emptor

[Davedub]

49 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

caveat emptor

 

This legal concept really ought be revisited in this context. As I have pointed out, it's impossible for many people to spend literally days reading through every T&C that applies to them. Moreover, not having a digital presence is increasingly becoming a necessity rather than a luxury. So I think it's fair to say that people are increasingly pressured to click the 'I agree' checkbox when, in fact:

 

a) They may not agree with the entirety of the T&Cs

and

b) They simply do not have the time to read through pages and pages of legalise and, given that legalise is actualy quite hard to understand and can be quite misleading if interpreted as regular English, they may not understand it anyway.

 

Caveat emptor harks from a far, far simpler time in history. It is an outmoded concept in the digital age on account of impractability and potential corporate abuse.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Davedub said:

 

This legal concept really ought be revisited in this context. As I have pointed out, it's impossible for many people to spend literally days reading through every T&C that applies to them. Moreover, not having a digital presence is increasingly becoming a necessity rather than a luxury. So I think it's fair to say that people are increasingly pressured to click the 'I agree' checkbox when, in fact:

 

a) They may not agree with the entirety of the T&Cs

and

b) They simply do not have the time to read through pages and pages of legalise and, given that legalise is actualy quite hard to understand and can be quite misleading if interpreted as regular English, they may not understand it anyway.

 

Caveat emptor harks from a far, far simpler time in history. It is an outmoded concept in the digital age on account of impractability and potential corporate abuse.

 

A far, far simpler time when you had time to read the legalese, which individually, probably has not increased in size. If one wants to sign up for everything out there, knock yourself out but don't cry about corporate abuse and lawyers that become judges just because you didn't.

 

1 hour ago, Davedub said:

a) They may not agree with the entirety of the T&Cs

 

Excellent! Then they will be fully cognizant of what they are subscribing to, or otherwise and their responsibilities. If they don't agree, they don't click the accept button.

 

1 hour ago, Davedub said:

b) They simply do not have the time to read through pages and pages of legalise and, given that legalise is actualy quite hard to understand and can be quite misleading if interpreted as regular English, they may not understand it anyway.

 

If you can't accept your social responsibilities that come with using social media and other "digital age" paraphernalia, if you feel pressured to click 'I agree' checkbox without reading the T&C's, then maybe it's time to put down the smartphone/keyboard and quietly leave the room before you share your debit card PIN with a stranger.

[AlwaysThere]

9 hours ago, jacko45k said:

That is interesting ... like many I am sure I can't be arsed to read the T&Cs and leave a bit of money on account there... never had this happen yet, but I tend to make an order at least once a month. 

 

"can't be asked" 🤭